Things I want to see final 30 games

[MagicFan101]

Everyone here is happy Orlando fought back but this is a thread about the last 30 games, not last night.

Last night's game was Game-1 of the last 30 games. And if Orlando needed to go 18-12 over those for a non-losing record; it's now 17-12.

Personally I would rather Orlando go 17-12 with most wins close than to blow out 17 teams and lose bad to another 12 games. Why? Because it means the team is growing Heart.

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Dude. WTF does any of that have to do with what I first said I (as in me, not you, but I) want to see over these 30 games? I don't want to see us squander leads with predictable patches of bad play. We failed to do exactly that and therefore, no I did not change my mind.

[PennytoShaq]

Oladipo had some nice shots at the end but half the reason we were struggling on offense was him. His shot selection was horrible, and he was missing layups again. He clanked 3s and one shot he stepped back onto the line (not behind it) and then clanked a long two on a key possession.

The guy just has no basketball IQ on offense, but on defense he is fantastic.I keep waiting for him to get it together, but we can't have a SG who shoots 30% from the field and make a playoff run.

[Last Guardian]

Just want them to be active and not lull around the court. We may not be able to score well a lot of games but we should never have a problem being active considering the youth and athleticism we have.

[OrlandoDream]

Oladipo had some nice shots at the end but half the reason we were struggling on offense was him. His shot selection was horrible, and he was missing layups again. He clanked 3s and one shot he stepped back onto the line (not behind it) and then clanked a long two on a key possession.

The guy just has no basketball IQ on offense, but on defense he is fantastic.I keep waiting for him to get it together, but we can't have a SG who shoots 30% from the field and make a playoff run.

Dipo has been cooling off a bit lately but give him a pass bc his defense defense alone is enough reason to keep him out there. He gave Dwill problems after he was done roasting Elf.

Aside from Vuc(who is avg 20 and 10 for Feb), Dipo has been our best player. He has been cooling off a bit the last 3 games but he is still avg 19pts 5 reb 4ast 2stl while shooting 45% from field and 89% from the line. Slowly but Dipo keeps improving right under our eyes and are too blind to see it bc of the FG%. When its not his night, thats when other players have to step up.

Alot of teams would love to have him on their team. I guarantee you that when those "Magic listening to trade offers for Oladipo" rumor came up, those phones were ringing off the hook. Realistically, how many SG are there in the NBA that we rather have starting for this team then Dipo? List is short. Even with his struggles on offense, Dipo is still a top 5 SG in the NBA. There are very few two way players left in this NBA. I never see Dipo with the a stroke like Klay Thompson or James Harden but he will improve his ability to finish at the rim, get to the line, and make better decisions. Victor is too valuable to this team to lose. The number #1 offseason move for us is to lock him up. I dont see him as a max player now but he will be one day so lets lock him up at a discount like we did for Vuc.

[seeingstars]

Oladipo had some nice shots at the end but half the reason we were struggling on offense was him. His shot selection was horrible, and he was missing layups again. He clanked 3s and one shot he stepped back onto the line (not behind it) and then clanked a long two on a key possession.

The guy just has no basketball IQ on offense, but on defense he is fantastic.I keep waiting for him to get it together, but we can't have a SG who shoots 30% from the field and make a playoff run.

Dipo has been cooling off a bit lately but give him a pass bc his defense defense alone is enough reason to keep him out there. He gave Dwill problems after he was done roasting Elf.

Aside from Vuc(who is avg 20 and 10 for Feb), Dipo has been our best player. He has been cooling off a bit the last 3 games but he is still avg 19pts 5 reb 4ast 2stl while shooting 45% from field and 89% from the line. Slowly but Dipo keeps improving right under our eyes and are too blind to see it bc of the FG%. When its not his night, thats when other players have to step up.

Alot of teams would love to have him on their team. I guarantee you that when those "Magic listening to trade offers for Oladipo" rumor came up, those phones were ringing off the hook. Realistically, how many SG are there in the NBA that we rather have starting for this team then Dipo? List is short. Even with his struggles on offense, Dipo is still a top 5 SG in the NBA. There are very few two way players left in this NBA. I never see Dipo with the a stroke like Klay Thompson or James Harden but he will improve his ability to finish at the rim, get to the line, and make better decisions. Victor is too valuable to this team to lose. The number #1 offseason move for us is to lock him up. I dont see him as a max player now but he will be one day so lets lock him up at a discount like we did for Vuc.

Drops. The. Mic.

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[PennytoShaq]

Oladipo had some nice shots at the end but half the reason we were struggling on offense was him. His shot selection was horrible, and he was missing layups again. He clanked 3s and one shot he stepped back onto the line (not behind it) and then clanked a long two on a key possession.

The guy just has no basketball IQ on offense, but on defense he is fantastic.I keep waiting for him to get it together, but we can't have a SG who shoots 30% from the field and make a playoff run.

Dipo has been cooling off a bit lately but give him a pass bc his defense defense alone is enough reason to keep him out there. He gave Dwill problems after he was done roasting Elf.

Aside from Vuc(who is avg 20 and 10 for Feb), Dipo has been our best player. He has been cooling off a bit the last 3 games but he is still avg 19pts 5 reb 4ast 2stl while shooting 45% from field and 89% from the line. Slowly but Dipo keeps improving right under our eyes and are too blind to see it bc of the FG%. When its not his night, thats when other players have to step up.

Alot of teams would love to have him on their team. I guarantee you that when those "Magic listening to trade offers for Oladipo" rumor came up, those phones were ringing off the hook. Realistically, how many SG are there in the NBA that we rather have starting for this team then Dipo? List is short. Even with his struggles on offense, Dipo is still a top 5 SG in the NBA. There are very few two way players left in this NBA. I never see Dipo with the a stroke like Klay Thompson or James Harden but he will improve his ability to finish at the rim, get to the line, and make better decisions. Victor is too valuable to this team to lose. The number #1 offseason move for us is to lock him up. I dont see him as a max player now but he will be one day so lets lock him up at a discount like we did for Vuc.

Wow, a top SG in the NBA? This is simply not true at all.

Each year people say the same thing about him. "He's been better the past few games" and then the new season starts and he doesn't get it going until Jan/Feb, and even in those months he still can not put consistent performances together.

The #1 offseason move is not going to be to lock up Victor. Im not sure where you are hearing that, but it's not true, and you can't guarantee the phone was ringing off the hook for him either. None of those statements are possible to prove at all. But I guess if you see him as a top 5 SG in the NBA, then the discussion has become irrational anyway.

[OrlandoDream]

Oladipo had some nice shots at the end but half the reason we were struggling on offense was him. His shot selection was horrible, and he was missing layups again. He clanked 3s and one shot he stepped back onto the line (not behind it) and then clanked a long two on a key possession.

The guy just has no basketball IQ on offense, but on defense he is fantastic.I keep waiting for him to get it together, but we can't have a SG who shoots 30% from the field and make a playoff run.

Dipo has been cooling off a bit lately but give him a pass bc his defense defense alone is enough reason to keep him out there. He gave Dwill problems after he was done roasting Elf.

Aside from Vuc(who is avg 20 and 10 for Feb), Dipo has been our best player. He has been cooling off a bit the last 3 games but he is still avg 19pts 5 reb 4ast 2stl while shooting 45% from field and 89% from the line. Slowly but Dipo keeps improving right under our eyes and are too blind to see it bc of the FG%. When its not his night, thats when other players have to step up.

Alot of teams would love to have him on their team. I guarantee you that when those "Magic listening to trade offers for Oladipo" rumor came up, those phones were ringing off the hook. Realistically, how many SG are there in the NBA that we rather have starting for this team then Dipo? List is short. Even with his struggles on offense, Dipo is still a top 5 SG in the NBA. There are very few two way players left in this NBA. I never see Dipo with the a stroke like Klay Thompson or James Harden but he will improve his ability to finish at the rim, get to the line, and make better decisions. Victor is too valuable to this team to lose. The number #1 offseason move for us is to lock him up. I dont see him as a max player now but he will be one day so lets lock him up at a discount like we did for Vuc.

Wow, a top SG in the NBA? This is simply not true at all.

Each year people say the same thing about him. "He's been better the past few games" and then the new season starts and he doesn't get it going until Jan/Feb, and even in those months he still can not put consistent performances together.

The #1 offseason move is not going to be to lock up Victor. Im not sure where you are hearing that, but it's not true, and you can't guarantee the phone was ringing off the hook for him either. None of those statements are possible to prove at all. But I guess if you see him as a top 5 SG in the NBA, then the discussion has become irrational anyway.

tell me what non all star SG you think will be a better fit for this team and will make us win more win then Dipo.

Edit: Of course my statement cant be proved. None of us here for for the Magic front office. This is a discussion board, its all opinions.

[PennytoShaq]

I think Mario will be a better fit for us long term at SG.

Skiles already said he is probably our most talented player and can be a true two way guy.

Plus he has a better ball IQ and a much better shot.

[drsd]

Dude. WTF does any of that have to do with what I first said I (as in me, not you, but I) want to see over these 30 games? I don't want to see us squander leads with predictable patches of bad play. We failed to do exactly that and therefore, no I did not change my mind.

Is it your point that the Mavs had their best-ever 3-ball shooting night and the Magic still won?


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[shinoff2183]

I think Mario will be a better fit for us long term at SG.

Skiles already said he is probably our most talented player and can be a true two way guy.

Plus he has a better ball IQ and a much better shot.

Shot is better yes but mario has done some stupid things on the court.

[Dennis Reynolds]

I think Mario will be a better fit for us long term at SG.

Skiles already said he is probably our most talented player and can be a true two way guy.

Plus he has a better ball IQ and a much better shot.

Shot is better yes but mario has done some stupid things on the court.

Thank God Dipo's BBIQ is so high.
I had a lot of faith in him but as the time goes I can barely stand him. People say we should ignore his awful decision making because of his defense but I totally disagree. Guy like Tony Allen,Artest knew their role on the court and that is why they were so effective and appreciated. Dipo plays like he thinks he is some kind of superstar.
He just keeps negating all the good things he does on D because his offense is horrid and I don't agree at all about his overall impact. He usage rate should be cut down dramatically and he should concentrate more on defense. He just isn't much of a scorer or a playmaker and he will soon turn 24. We are also in win mode now so I really don't want to watch him be the number 1 option. He just isn't talented enough.

[shinoff2183]

I think Mario will be a better fit for us long term at SG.

Skiles already said he is probably our most talented player and can be a true two way guy.

Plus he has a better ball IQ and a much better shot.

Shot is better yes but mario has done some stupid things on the court.

Thank God Dipo's BBIQ is so high.
I had a lot of faith in him but as the time goes I can barely stand him. People say we should ignore his awful decision making because of his defense but I totally disagree. Guy like Tony Allen,Artest knew their role on the court and that is why they were so effective and appreciated. Dipo plays like he thinks he is some kind of superstar.
He just keeps negating all the good things he does on D because his offense is horrid and I don't agree at all about his overall impact. He usage rate should be cut down dramatically and he should concentrate more on defense. He just isn't much of a scorer or a playmaker and he will soon turn 24. We are also in win mode now so I really don't want to watch him be the number 1 option. He just isn't talented enough.

That wasnt posted to say dipo is the smartest player ever. so dont mistake. What im saying is everyone on our team has done some boneheaded things. For dipo to bring his percentages up from how he started the season I think is incredible. I believe the positive he brings far outweighs the negative.

[Dennis Reynolds]

Shot is better yes but mario has done some stupid things on the court.

Thank God Dipo's BBIQ is so high.
I had a lot of faith in him but as the time goes I can barely stand him. People say we should ignore his awful decision making because of his defense but I totally disagree. Guy like Tony Allen,Artest knew their role on the court and that is why they were so effective and appreciated. Dipo plays like he thinks he is some kind of superstar.
He just keeps negating all the good things he does on D because his offense is horrid and I don't agree at all about his overall impact. He usage rate should be cut down dramatically and he should concentrate more on defense. He just isn't much of a scorer or a playmaker and he will soon turn 24. We are also in win mode now so I really don't want to watch him be the number 1 option. He just isn't talented enough.

That wasnt posted to say dipo is the smartest player ever. so dont mistake. What im saying is everyone on our team has done some boneheaded things. For dipo to bring his percentages up from how he started the season I think is incredible. I believe the positive he brings far outweighs the negative.

Of course Mario makes some stupid mistakes but we are comparing him to Dipo at the moment. Mario is just a rookie and he is already a better decision maker than Dipo.
I also agree the positive things Dipo does on the court outweigh his mistakes but not by much imo. He has been getting all the chances in the world and pushing him to be something he isn't won't help him in the long run. I am not saying we should get rid of him but we should tell him to shoot and handle the ball less because we have better options.
I just can't stand him shooting 2/10 from the field and continuing to shoot like he is surrounded with a bunch of scrubs.

[PennytoShaq]

I can't believe some people think Oladipo is a top 5 SG in the NBA. I'm still digesting that.

[Dennis Reynolds]

I can't believe some people think Oladipo is a top 5 SG in the NBA. I'm still digesting that.

He could be one day but not now and not in the role he has today. He has to focus more on defense and rebounding and take what the defense gives him. If he would stop forcing things so much,he would instantly become at least 10% better than he is now. If people think he is playing too much hero ball now(I do),I am afraid what we will see in his contract year.

[EAS Law]

I'm about as "off" of the Oladipo wagon as anyone here could be, but I do think he is overall a good player for us. I agree that his usage needs to decline sharply, and that he needs to focus on his defense.

With that said, he has, many times, been the reason we've won game. I wish for him that he could just figure out how to be a bit more consistent and perhaps break out of some of his habits that keep him from getting to the line and finishing.

I still have faith that he could develop into a top tier SG, but for now, he's not there. It really would completely change if he just got to the line more.

[Von Bismarck]

-I want Vuc to play angry almost every game. Demand the ball in crunch time.

-Would like to see the 2 new veterans provide good stability to this young team.

-Mario getting consistent crunch time minutes and more set plays.

-Win a few games here and there against top competition that we are not supposed to win.

No.1 - Depends on him completely but I agree

No.2 - Perhaps, I believe so but it could go other way, if you get me

No.3 - Agree about crunch minutes but I don't believe Skiles is capable of setting good offensive plays or offensive plays at all. In Mario's case, he scores when he creates for himself most of the time to be honest

No.4 - That would be huge

[Dennis Reynolds]

I'm about as "off" of the Oladipo wagon as anyone here could be, but I do think he is overall a good player for us. I agree that his usage needs to decline sharply, and that he needs to focus on his defense.

With that said, he has, many times, been the reason we've won game. I wish for him that he could just figure out how to be a bit more consistent and perhaps break out of some of his habits that keep him from getting to the line and finishing.

I still have faith that he could develop into a top tier SG, but for now, he's not there. It really would completely change if he just got to the line more.

I agree he is good but I think some people overrate him. He was 6/18 in the last game and some people think he deserved to win the vest because he hit a big shot. Really? Some people are saying his rebounding was a big part of the game. Do they think the Mavs would pick up 14 extra rebounds if he wasn't there? It doesn't work that way. If he wasn't on the court they would have maybe had 1 or 2 extra rebounds but the player that would be in for him would have probably done a much better job on offense and had a much more positive impact.

If Dipo wasn't shooting so badly and actually shared the ball more we would have won much easier. That shot he hit was also lucky and his reaction showed it. We just can't allow guys who are off that night to keep shooting like there is no tomorrow and we do that almost every game. Instead of feeding the hot hand,we usually do the exact opposite and it drives me crazy because that is how we lose most of the close games.