Official HEAT 2015-16 Regular Season Thread - Vol. II

[heat4life]

If I am an athlete planning to sleep around, I would be more worried about STD's. So even with a vasectomy, don't be a fool and wrap your tool!

[orphicwhip]

If I am an athlete planning to sleep around, I would be more worried about STD's. So even with a vasectomy, don't be a fool and wrap your tool!

but of course!

Can't get trapped for 18 years either tho

[gom]

SVG needs a forward. What do you think? To Detroit?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240960/Michael-Beasley-Receiving-Interest-From-Multiple-NBA-Teams

Brooklyn, Denver, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Boston and Oklahoma City have one open spot. Miami and Cleveland have two spots open. Detroit, Charlotte, the Clippers, New York and Phoenix have players on 10-day contracts who can create an open roster spot.

Chicago, Golden State, the Clippers, Oklahoma City, Houston, San Antonio and Cleveland are tax teams. I can't see Cleveland or the Clippers making an offer when it also means paying tax. Phoenix, for obvious reasons, is out.

[heat4life]

SVG needs a forward. What do you think? To Detroit?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240960/Michael-Beasley-Receiving-Interest-From-Multiple-NBA-Teams

Maybe SVG kicks those tires because of need but I don't think he has the patience to deal with Beasley's mental miscues. He made a priority to rid himself of Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings etc..

[Bourne85]

SVG needs a forward. What do you think? To Detroit?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240960/Michael-Beasley-Receiving-Interest-From-Multiple-NBA-Teams

Brooklyn, Denver, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Boston and Oklahoma City have one open spot. Miami and Cleveland have two spots open. Detroit, Charlotte, the Clippers, New York and Phoenix have players on 10-day contracts who can create an open roster spot.

Chicago, Golden State, the Clippers, Oklahoma City, Houston, San Antonio and Cleveland are tax teams. I can't see Cleveland or the Clippers making an offer when it also means paying tax. Phoenix, for obvious reasons, is out.

It's happening

[Bishop45]

I'm happy for Beas, hopefully he's grown some as a player

Not mad if this never changes, tho

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/702204424165400580[/tweet]

[orphicwhip]

good

[3ballbomber]

SVG needs a forward. What do you think? To Detroit?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240960/Michael-Beasley-Receiving-Interest-From-Multiple-NBA-Teams

Brooklyn, Denver, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Boston and Oklahoma City have one open spot. Miami and Cleveland have two spots open. Detroit, Charlotte, the Clippers, New York and Phoenix have players on 10-day contracts who can create an open roster spot.

Chicago, Golden State, the Clippers, Oklahoma City, Houston, San Antonio and Cleveland are tax teams. I can't see Cleveland or the Clippers making an offer when it also means paying tax. Phoenix, for obvious reasons, is out.

I'll send you $200 if Stan signs Beasley

[3ballbomber]

I'm happy for Beas, hopefully he's grown some as a player

Not mad if this never changes, tho

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/702204424165400580[/tweet]

Miami has moved on.....so should many other heat followers

[twix2500]

I'm happy for Beas, hopefully he's grown some as a player

Not mad if this never changes, tho

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/702204424165400580[/tweet]

Miami has moved on.....so should many other heat followers

you, ira and ethan thought the same thing last year until a fan reported seeing Beas pull up to the Miami Arena LOL

[3ballbomber]

I'm happy for Beas, hopefully he's grown some as a player

Not mad if this never changes, tho

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/702204424165400580[/tweet]

Miami has moved on.....so should many other heat followers

you, ira and ethan thought the same thing last year until a fan reported seeing Beas pull up to the Miami Arena LOL

lol yeah, but that decision didn't pan out so well for Riles and the gang. I'll self ban myself if we sign him again. I'm quite confident we no longer want to make the same mistake for the 4th time.

[RexBoyWonder]

found this entertaining post in the T&T board

I wanted to trade Josh McRoberts for a sandwich. Since the All-Star Break he has been one of our best players. I'm still skeptical, but I'm sorry about trying to trade him for... well, anyone (or anything.)

I knew he'd win you over eventually!

[gom]

found this entertaining post in the T&T board

I wanted to trade Josh McRoberts for a sandwich. Since the All-Star Break he has been one of our best players. I'm still skeptical, but I'm sorry about trying to trade him for... well, anyone (or anything.)

I knew he'd win you over eventually!

"Skeptical & Sorry" != "Won over"

However, I can at least admit that I was wrong to be so opposed. It's clear that "Stretch" was an unfair nickname. Josh really does like playing basketball, and with Bosh down, he's been valuable. It would be nice if he doesn't get hurt for a while. Let's see.

[gom]

Ok, with the trade dealine done, it looks like the teams are all committed to one course or another, so let’s talk about the playoff race. Eastern Conference first:

Clearly Cleveland & Toronto are vying for the top of the conference, and the point isn’t just to win eventual home court advantage against the other, but to delay an eventual confrontation until the other teams are weeded out. Finishing 2nd or 3rd (or 6th and 7th) means you avoid Cleveland until the finals, so it’s strategically important.

I classify the Eastern Conference teams into 6 groups:

Contenders: Cleveland & Toronto
Upsetters: Miami, Boston, Indiana, Atlanta, & Chicago
Intruders: Charlotte, Detroit.
Outsiders: Orlando, Milwaukee, Washington
Unhappy Losers: New York Knicks & Brooklyn
Tankers: Philadelphia

Contenders are serious teams that are vying to be NBA champions against the Western Conference champion (probably Golden State, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, or the Clippers).

Upsetters are teams that might make it to the Eastern Conference finals because Cleveland or Toronto fails to play strong games. Toronto last season was eliminated in the first round. This year we shall see if the Wizards’ lesson was taught well or not. In any case undeniably the upsetters will enter with a disadvantage in home court advantage.

Unconvinced? Let’s do the math. Toronto is 37-18 which leaves 27 games to play. Suppose they split them 50%, 14-13. That means they’ll have 51 wins, which I think is an underestimate for a team that’s actually winning over 2/3 of their games. Still for illustrative purposes, let’s say they slump. Can Boston catch them though? Boston is 33-25. To get 51 wins in teir last 24 games, they have to go 18-6. It’s possible, but a look at their schedule reveals 2 games with Miami, home and away games with red hot Portland, away games with Golden State & the Clippers and the Raptors themselves, and an away game with the Cavs too, along with other games that might be toss ups. 18-5 looks pretty unlikely. 3rd is the best they can do in my opinion. Incidentally, for the Heat it’s not much different. We’re 32-24 and have 26 more games to play, so 19-7 gets us to 51. It can be done, but in the face of away games in San Antonio and tomorrow night’s game against the Warriors and others, it doesn’t look probable at all.

Of course for teams like Indiana, Atlanta, & Chicago who have each had their moment in the sun, the math gets worse. Thus, this entire group looks like postseason teams who will look to place in the 3,4,5, & 6 spots (you can’t pick your place or you’re destined to lose, but 3 is best, 6 is next best, maybe 4 & then 5 to get the second round versus 7th to have a first round bout with Toronto… Get third and we’re good!) and win a series to make their mark. That's us and Boston too.

The next tier are the intruders. These are teams that still have a chance at the postseason, but their clocks are ticking and time is not their friend. Of these Charlotte benefits from a late spurt and are now 7th. Once they finish their short road trip they’ll have a stretch of 10 home games and 2 road games. But then most of their games are on the road. They face plenty of quality opponents along the way, but notably they have 2 away games at Cleveland, 1 in Toronto. Still only 13 of the 27 games are against plus 0.500 teams, so Charlotte should be in the playoffs. Detroit is in a similar situation even though they are currently out of the pack. A decent streak of Drummond domination will deliver them to the postseason and there is little reason to play for a lottery pick at this point.

9 teams vying for 8 places means someone will be very unhappy. My guess right now is that either Chicago or Atlanta slumps and then chucks in the towel. Both have draft picks in 2016 and Chicago can't rely on getting the Kings' pick. Neither team is playing like a champion, although that can change. This is really important for Miami, because even though our regular season series with Atlanta is over, we still have 3 games with Chicago to play (2 home and 1 away.)

Outsiders: Orlando & Milwaukee & Washington. These teams have been disappointing and they’ll struggle to get into postseason play. My guess is that they will not and both Milwaukee & Orlando will concentrate on getting a better draft position for the lottery, while Washington who traded their pick for Markieff Morris will attempt to develop their young players like Oubre and make their pick as unappetizing as possible. Fat chance. My gut feeling is that Milwaukee & Orlando will eventually conclude there is nothing for them this season and take their toys and go home, wait for the balls to bounce, and get their number.

Unhappy Losers: My definition of "unhappy losers" are teams that probably ought to tank, but can't. New York’s pick has been swapped with DEN and the leftover pick goes to TOR, so the Knicks don’t get a draft pick this year. Thus, they have nothing to do but try to make the playoffs (unlikely) or at least make things entertaining. They are true spoilers with little for themselves. It’s still fun to do. In Brooklyn’s case, whatever they can do to make the Boston pick worse will be wonderful, but I don’t count on anything.

Tankers: This is the 76ers’ desired position. They got what they wanted.

— West Coast stuff later —

[3ballbomber]

Ok, with the trade dealine done, it looks like the teams are all committed to one course or another, so let’s talk about the playoff race. Eastern Conference first:

Clearly Cleveland & Toronto are vying for the top of the conference, and the point isn’t just to win eventual home court advantage against the other, but to delay an eventual confrontation until the other teams are weeded out. Finishing 2nd or 3rd (or 6th and 7th) means you avoid Cleveland until the finals, so it’s strategically important.

I classify the Eastern Conference teams into 6 groups:

Contenders: Cleveland & Toronto
Upsetters: Miami, Boston, Indiana, Atlanta, & Chicago
Intruders: Charlotte, Detroit.
Outsiders: Orlando, Milwaukee, Washington
Unhappy Losers: New York Knicks & Brooklyn
Tankers: Philadelphia

Contenders are serious teams that are vying to be NBA champions against the Western Conference champion (probably Golden State, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, or the Clippers).

Upsetters are teams that might make it to the Eastern Conference finals because Cleveland or Toronto fails to play strong games. Toronto last season was eliminated in the first round. This year we shall see if the Wizards’ lesson was taught well or not. In any case undeniably the upsetters will enter with a disadvantage in home court advantage.

Unconvinced? Let’s do the math. Toronto is 37-18 which leaves 27 games to play. Suppose they split them 50%, 14-13. That means they’ll have 51 wins, which I think is an underestimate for a team that’s actually winning over 2/3 of their games. Still for illustrative purposes, let’s say they slump. Can Boston catch them though? Boston is 33-25. To get 51 wins in teir last 24 games, they have to go 18-6. It’s possible, but a look at their schedule reveals 2 games with Miami, home and away games with red hot Portland, away games with Golden State & the Clippers and the Raptors themselves, and an away game with the Cavs too, along with other games that might be toss ups. 18-5 looks pretty unlikely. 3rd is the best they can do in my opinion. Incidentally, for the Heat it’s not much different. We’re 32-24 and have 26 more games to play, so 19-7 gets us to 51. It can be done, but in the face of away games in San Antonio and tomorrow night’s game against the Warriors and others, it doesn’t look probable at all.

Of course for teams like Indiana, Atlanta, & Chicago who have each had their moment in the sun, the math gets worse. Thus, this entire group looks like postseason teams who will look to place in the 3,4,5, & 6 spots (you can’t pick your place or you’re destined to lose, but 3 is best, 6 is next best, maybe 4 & then 5 to get the second round versus 7th to have a first round bout with Toronto… Get third and we’re good!) and win a series to make their mark. That's us and Boston too.

The next tier are the intruders. These are teams that still have a chance at the postseason, but their clocks are ticking and time is not their friend. Of these Charlotte benefits from a late spurt and are now 7th. Once they finish their short road trip they’ll have a stretch of 10 home games and 2 road games. But then most of their games are on the road. They face plenty of quality opponents along the way, but notably they have 2 away games at Cleveland, 1 in Toronto. Still only 13 of the 27 games are against plus 0.500 teams, so Charlotte should be in the playoffs. Detroit is in a similar situation even though they are currently out of the pack. A decent streak of Drummond domination will deliver them to the postseason and there is little reason to play for a lottery pick at this point.

9 teams vying for 8 places means someone will be very unhappy. My guess right now is that either Chicago or Atlanta slumps and then chucks in the towel. Both have draft picks in 2016 and Chicago can't rely on getting the Kings' pick. Neither team is playing like a champion, although that can change. This is really important for Miami, because even though our regular season series with Atlanta is over, we still have 3 games with Chicago to play (2 home and 1 away.)

Outsiders: Orlando & Milwaukee & Washington. These teams have been disappointing and they’ll struggle to get into postseason play. My guess is that they will not and both Milwaukee & Orlando will concentrate on getting a better draft position for the lottery, while Washington who traded their pick for Markieff Morris will attempt to develop their young players like Oubre and make their pick as unappetizing as possible. Fat chance. My gut feeling is that Milwaukee & Orlando will eventually conclude there is nothing for them this season and take their toys and go home, wait for the balls to bounce, and get their number.

Unhappy Losers: My definition of "unhappy losers" are teams that probably ought to tank, but can't. New York’s pick has been swapped with DEN and the leftover pick goes to TOR, so the Knicks don’t get a draft pick this year. Thus, they have nothing to do but try to make the playoffs (unlikely) or at least make things entertaining. They are true spoilers with little for themselves. It’s still fun to do. In Brooklyn’s case, whatever they can do to make the Boston pick worse will be wonderful, but I don’t count on anything.

Tankers: This is the 76ers’ desired position. They got what they wanted.

— West Coast stuff later —

Daaaamn Gomiel. Back at it again w/ a good post. Daaamn Gomiel.

I think if we continue to play the way we are playing & the rest of us stay healthy we could possible go 17-9/16-10 in our remaining games. I agree that 19-7 seems improbable. so that would make us some where in the top 5 in the east? hopefully.

[gom]

Ok, with the trade dealine done, it looks like the teams are all committed to one course or another, so let’s talk about the playoff race. Eastern Conference first:

Clearly Cleveland & Toronto are vying for the top of the conference, and the point isn’t just to win eventual home court advantage against the other, but to delay an eventual confrontation until the other teams are weeded out. Finishing 2nd or 3rd (or 6th and 7th) means you avoid Cleveland until the finals, so it’s strategically important.

I classify the Eastern Conference teams into 6 groups:

Contenders: Cleveland & Toronto
Upsetters: Miami, Boston, Indiana, Atlanta, & Chicago
Intruders: Charlotte, Detroit.
Outsiders: Orlando, Milwaukee, Washington
Unhappy Losers: New York Knicks & Brooklyn
Tankers: Philadelphia

Contenders are serious teams that are vying to be NBA champions against the Western Conference champion (probably Golden State, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, or the Clippers).

Upsetters are teams that might make it to the Eastern Conference finals because Cleveland or Toronto fails to play strong games. Toronto last season was eliminated in the first round. This year we shall see if the Wizards’ lesson was taught well or not. In any case undeniably the upsetters will enter with a disadvantage in home court advantage.

Unconvinced? Let’s do the math. Toronto is 37-18 which leaves 27 games to play. Suppose they split them 50%, 14-13. That means they’ll have 51 wins, which I think is an underestimate for a team that’s actually winning over 2/3 of their games. Still for illustrative purposes, let’s say they slump. Can Boston catch them though? Boston is 33-25. To get 51 wins in teir last 24 games, they have to go 18-6. It’s possible, but a look at their schedule reveals 2 games with Miami, home and away games with red hot Portland, away games with Golden State & the Clippers and the Raptors themselves, and an away game with the Cavs too, along with other games that might be toss ups. 18-5 looks pretty unlikely. 3rd is the best they can do in my opinion. Incidentally, for the Heat it’s not much different. We’re 32-24 and have 26 more games to play, so 19-7 gets us to 51. It can be done, but in the face of away games in San Antonio and tomorrow night’s game against the Warriors and others, it doesn’t look probable at all.

Of course for teams like Indiana, Atlanta, & Chicago who have each had their moment in the sun, the math gets worse. Thus, this entire group looks like postseason teams who will look to place in the 3,4,5, & 6 spots (you can’t pick your place or you’re destined to lose, but 3 is best, 6 is next best, maybe 4 & then 5 to get the second round versus 7th to have a first round bout with Toronto… Get third and we’re good!) and win a series to make their mark. That's us and Boston too.

The next tier are the intruders. These are teams that still have a chance at the postseason, but their clocks are ticking and time is not their friend. Of these Charlotte benefits from a late spurt and are now 7th. Once they finish their short road trip they’ll have a stretch of 10 home games and 2 road games. But then most of their games are on the road. They face plenty of quality opponents along the way, but notably they have 2 away games at Cleveland, 1 in Toronto. Still only 13 of the 27 games are against plus 0.500 teams, so Charlotte should be in the playoffs. Detroit is in a similar situation even though they are currently out of the pack. A decent streak of Drummond domination will deliver them to the postseason and there is little reason to play for a lottery pick at this point.

9 teams vying for 8 places means someone will be very unhappy. My guess right now is that either Chicago or Atlanta slumps and then chucks in the towel. Both have draft picks in 2016 and Chicago can't rely on getting the Kings' pick. Neither team is playing like a champion, although that can change. This is really important for Miami, because even though our regular season series with Atlanta is over, we still have 3 games with Chicago to play (2 home and 1 away.)

Outsiders: Orlando & Milwaukee & Washington. These teams have been disappointing and they’ll struggle to get into postseason play. My guess is that they will not and both Milwaukee & Orlando will concentrate on getting a better draft position for the lottery, while Washington who traded their pick for Markieff Morris will attempt to develop their young players like Oubre and make their pick as unappetizing as possible. Fat chance. My gut feeling is that Milwaukee & Orlando will eventually conclude there is nothing for them this season and take their toys and go home, wait for the balls to bounce, and get their number.

Unhappy Losers: My definition of "unhappy losers" are teams that probably ought to tank, but can't. New York’s pick has been swapped with DEN and the leftover pick goes to TOR, so the Knicks don’t get a draft pick this year. Thus, they have nothing to do but try to make the playoffs (unlikely) or at least make things entertaining. They are true spoilers with little for themselves. It’s still fun to do. In Brooklyn’s case, whatever they can do to make the Boston pick worse will be wonderful, but I don’t count on anything.

Tankers: This is the 76ers’ desired position. They got what they wanted.

— West Coast stuff later —

Daaaamn Gomiel. Back at it again w/ a good post. Daaamn Gomiel.

I think if we continue to play the way we are playing & the rest of us stay healthy we could possible go 17-9/16-10 in our remaining games. I agree that 19-7 seems improbable. so that would make us some where in the top 5 in the east? hopefully.

Thanks! I think 17-9 or 16-10 puts us squarely 3rd or 4th, hopefully 3rd. 3rd is best because it plays 6th and then the winner plays 2nd or 5th. It gives our team - especially Justise and Josh Richardson (& hopefully TJ - crossing my fingers) time to grow before having to bring down Toronto, Cleveland, and whoever comes out of the West.

[smartcane]

I'm happy for Beas, hopefully he's grown some as a player

Not mad if this never changes, tho

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/702204424165400580[/tweet]

He is coming back to Miami. This was Pat's plan all along. The battery and rape stuff needed the cleared up and Pat knew he had clear some players and money before the end of the year. So he just Beasley agent know that what the situation is and explained why it is best if they go along. Watch Beasley is going to join Miami and become that complementary peace this team needs

[Rapaz]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/702334867548282880[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Manny_Navarro/status/702338909347389441[/tweet]

Tio Beno!

[Bishop45]

My goodness, that's three of our 13 active players... we're probably going to be granted an extra roster spot... that we're not even going to use

God speed, Beno!

[DefenseWins]

Beno was really good for us too.... It sucks

JRich has no choice but to be unleashed, his defense would be great but offensively we will suffer a bit, Beno can run an offense and has a nice midrange J


JRich is about to be thrown into the fire, Spo has no choice but to play him and hopefully he grows. It will be interesting

We will get a vet PG then in the buy out market... Wouldnt be surprised if we go after John Lucas III