Orlando Magic Free Agency Guide (Cap Info UPDATED page 37)

[ezzzp]

You go after Durant & Horford. In case we miss on Durant, turn to Harisson Barnes. Turning Tobias into Barnes is not a bad deal - he is eficient, can defend and can shoot.

What if we miss out on all 3?

what if the Taliban, Al-Queda, ISIS and the Axis of Evil join up to destroy the Orlando Magic cap space...what if Rich Devos sells the team to Seattle...what if...etc.

[Dennis Reynolds]

I think you guys are all wrong on KD. I think it is clear he is desperate to be coached by a real coach like Skiles. I anticipate Skiles to be a real draw for free agents starting with Durant. No question about it.

But seriously,do you people really think any top notch free agent will even consider joining the team which once again ended up counting ping pong balls,barely uses its most talented players,is coached by the one and only Scott Skiles to team up with Fournier and Oladipo? I am really curious what the Skiles family members think about this?

[ezzzp]

I think you guys are all wrong on KD. I think it is clear he is desperate to be coached by a real coach like Skiles. I anticipate Skiles to be a real draw for free agents starting with Durant. No question about it.

But seriously,do you people really think any top notch free agent will even consider joining the team which once again ended up counting ping pong balls,barely uses its most talented players,is coached by the one and only Scott Skiles to team up with Fournier and Oladipo? I am really curious what the Skiles family members think about this?

Shouldn't you be using your clairvoyance for something more useful - like saving the planet? Why are you wasting your ability to see the future on realGM? Duh.

[BadMofoPimp]

You go after Durant & Horford. In case we miss on Durant, turn to Harisson Barnes. Turning Tobias into Barnes is not a bad deal - he is eficient, can defend and can shoot.

What if we miss out on all 3?

what if the Taliban, Al-Queda, ISIS and the Axis of Evil join up to destroy the Orlando Magic cap space...what if Rich Devos sells the team to Seattle...what if...etc.

More probable than Durant and Horford both coming to the Magic.

[ezzzp]

What if we miss out on all 3?

what if the Taliban, Al-Queda, ISIS and the Axis of Evil join up to destroy the Orlando Magic cap space...what if Rich Devos sells the team to Seattle...what if...etc.

More probable than Durant and Horford both coming to the Magic.

LOL...yup...but is it more probable than Big Baby making a comeback?

I'm not a believer that Durant will come to Orlando btw...but there is no reason to believe that the Magic aren't going to be able to get at least one (and very possibly two) key impact players.

[BadMofoPimp]

what if the Taliban, Al-Queda, ISIS and the Axis of Evil join up to destroy the Orlando Magic cap space...what if Rich Devos sells the team to Seattle...what if...etc.

More probable than Durant and Horford both coming to the Magic.

LOL...yup...but is it more probable than Big Baby making a comeback?

I'm not a believer that Durant will come to Orlando btw...but there is no reason to believe that the Magic aren't going to be able to get at least one (and very possibly two) key impact players.

I will believe it when I see it. My prediction is Henny will spend $10-13mil to resign Jennings and spend $8-10 mil to pick up a backup big.

[ezzzp]

More probable than Durant and Horford both coming to the Magic.

LOL...yup...but is it more probable than Big Baby making a comeback?

I'm not a believer that Durant will come to Orlando btw...but there is no reason to believe that the Magic aren't going to be able to get at least one (and very possibly two) key impact players.

I will believe it when I see it. My prediction is Henny will spend $10-13mil to resign Jennings and spend $8-10 mil to pick up a backup big.

and he does what with the remaining $27m?

[TodGre]

LOL...yup...but is it more probable than Big Baby making a comeback?

I'm not a believer that Durant will come to Orlando btw...but there is no reason to believe that the Magic aren't going to be able to get at least one (and very p3ossibly two) key impact players.

I will believe it when I see it. My prediction is Henny will spend $10-13mil to resign Jennings and spend $8-10 mil to pick up a backup big.

and he does what with the remaining $27m?

Save it for the 2017 Free Agent class.

[ezzzp]

I will believe it when I see it. My prediction is Henny will spend $10-13mil to resign Jennings and spend $8-10 mil to pick up a backup big.

and he does what with the remaining $27m?

Save it for the 2017 Free Agent class.

Magic would be way under the cap floor around $20m..I doubt Devos lets Henny eat that much salary. He would need to sign several 1 year contracts (kind of what he did with Ben Gordon and Jason Smith,,,punt the cap space).

[BadMofoPimp]

and he does what with the remaining $27m?

Save it for the 2017 Free Agent class.

Magic would be way under the cap floor around $20m..I doubt Devos lets Henny eat that much salary. He would need to sign several 1 year contracts (kind of what he did with Ben Gordon and Jason Smith,,,punt the cap space).

What I wonder with the new Salary cap room ALL teams in the NBA will inherit, there will be too much money to go around and not enough players to reap the benefits. Either some backups will make bank or some elite talent will command at least a 1/4 of a teams salary. I can see too many teams overpaying for backup scrub talent. I just hope Henny doesn't get into any bidding wars on tier 3 level talent.

[ezzzp]

Save it for the 2017 Free Agent class.

Magic would be way under the cap floor around $20m..I doubt Devos lets Henny eat that much salary. He would need to sign several 1 year contracts (kind of what he did with Ben Gordon and Jason Smith,,,punt the cap space).

What I wonder with the new Salary cap room ALL teams in the NBA will inherit, there will be too much money to go around and not enough players to reap the benefits. Either some backups will make bank or some elite talent will command at least a 1/4 of a teams salary. I can see too many teams overpaying for backup scrub talent. I just hope Henny doesn't get into any bidding wars on tier 3 level talent.

There will be definitely be a lot of overpays used to either retain or steal quality role players/non starters. For instance, Jason Smith - nice player at $4.5m and definitely someone I hope sticks around. I bet another team will offer him $10m to pry him away....that kind of thing is going to happen a lot this summer. Stars will always get paid, but a lot of lower level guys are going to cash in.

[MagicFan32]

sure let's give whiteside 20 million dollars when he has all those blocks, yet the heat are substantially better with him off the floor...pretty big red flag if you ask me

horford at max=TERRIBLE

but i've resigned myself to the fact the magic will **** this up and spend their money on B and C guys, and get on the treadmill

[premo321]

sure let's give whiteside 20 million dollars when he has all those blocks, yet the heat are substantially better with him off the floor...pretty big red flag if you ask me

horford at max=TERRIBLE

but i've resigned myself to the fact the magic will **** this up and spend their money on B and C guys, and get on the treadmill

You came up with that out of your ass, in fact miami is better with whiteside on court +0.5(last season +0.7). Any real talented player would be mad with treatment that glorified idiot spoelstra doing to him. Horford max is terrible indeed

[Viper1500]

My primary target would still be Conley.


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[NBlue]

I think you guys are all wrong on KD. I think it is clear he is desperate to be coached by a real coach like Skiles. I anticipate Skiles to be a real draw for free agents starting with Durant. No question about it.

Fixed it for you.

Thank you. I was thinking of doing that myself but thought it might be more entertaining to see responses in earnest...

[904Magic]

sure let's give whiteside 20 million dollars when he has all those blocks, yet the heat are substantially better with him off the floor...pretty big red flag if you ask me

horford at max=TERRIBLE

but i've resigned myself to the fact the magic will **** this up and spend their money on B and C guys, and get on the treadmill

You came up with that out of your ass, in fact miami is better with whiteside on court +0.5(last season +0.7). Any real talented player would be mad with treatment that glorified idiot spoelstra doing to him. Horford max is terrible indeed

It's actually a rather prevalent opinion that the Heat look better when Whiteside isn't in the game, particularly (and somewhat paradoxically) on defense.

I believe the stats suggesting this have gotten better as the season has gone on, but it's still clear that for someone with such impressive and seemingly impacting stat lines, it just doesn't translate to actual team success.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Horford really shouldn't be worth max dollars. He's not a star, and I'm not sure he's a massive difference maker as an individual, and he's had big issues with injuries in recent years, and he's going to be 30.

Yeah, he's a good player, and he'd be good as a 3rd option on a Big 3 (like in OKC with Durant and Westbrook, or in Chicago with Rose and Butler, etc), but we need to prioritize getting the Big 2 first and foremost. Adding an expensive 3rd option like that just makes it harder to obtain a legit star.

I was high on him coming here but recently started feeling the same way as you do. It just doesn't seem like he would put us over the top. I'd rather keep the Vooch + AG pairing and try to improve elsewhere if possible.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I still have hope that there is a concrete plan at the very least to sign KD, but I do live in reality too, and I think I'd be alright with us signing DeRozan and one of Horford/Whiteside/even Howard in the offseason.

If you DON'T win the KD sweepstakes, it virtually doesn't matter who you sign at that point; the team would still fall short every year.

That IS the reality. If there are any GM's who have max dollars who are not currently putting a plan together to sign Durant then they should be on the hot seat. Its gloom and doomy but I feel that way a little as well. We could sign Horford, Derozan or Whiteside(which would be horrible imo) and we'd still not be good enough. I'd almost rather go the Detroit route and be good by committee than lean on any of (Outside of Durant of course)

[flying_mollusk]

My primary target would still be Conley.


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Im pretty sure that is who we are going to go after. It is probably going to upset a few people here, as it may result in Payton either traded or seeing a diminished role. I like Payton, so Id be disappointed to see this happen to him. But Conley is a good, playoff tested PG with a 3 point stroke.

[Blue_and_Whte]

My primary target would still be Conley.


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Im pretty sure that is who we are going to go after. It is probably going to upset a few people here, as it may result in Payton either traded or seeing a diminished role. I like Payton, so Id be disappointed to see this happen to him. But Conley is a good, playoff tested PG with a 3 point stroke.

At some point people will have to accept the fact that Payton will always be a back up if he can't improve as a shooter.

It's not just contending teams either. Having a starting pg that can't spread the floor makes it really tough in the half court oriented playoffs.