Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2)

Dark Faze · Post #341 » by **Dark Faze** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:40 am

probably won't be fired either

you don't give a GM the ability to trade a pick like that if you're even 50/50 on keeping him

Upper Decker · Post #342 » by **Upper Decker** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:37 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:...snip...
Trust me, this data and writing is hard work and will take a few days, but assign modules to guys on here to do and bring back the data and google doc chart links and talk about it before going live. You can roadmap one hell of a website that Bill Simmons will talk about with House on his podcast. That's one angle I took with SOB. Make that "story" so damn airtight that a guy like Simmons had to conclude, yeah, this is right and needs to be discussed in NBA media circles.

Sort of off topic, but Joe House is a dope, and while it's nice he's a regular DC guy on one of the most downloaded podcasts, I don't think he's the smart vocal influential figure-head to start a revolution. Immediately after acquiring Morris he went to twitter supporting the trade with a 5 tweet series of

"Just need to get the #7 seed"
"He'll play hard for a team trying to make the playoffs"
"protected 1st rounder is very worth the risk. morris' value definitely equivalent to slots 11-20 in 1st round"
"bullets don't have what I would call a *great* track-record with 1st rounds picks..."

All of that is loser talk and I'm sure it made EG and Turd grin from ear to ear because they've now convinced the most public fan to buy completely in to the mediocrity they're selling.

Post #343 » by **nate33** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:56 pm

Dark Faze wrote:probably won't be fired either

you don't give a GM the ability to trade a pick like that if you're even 50/50 on keeping him

God, I hope you are wrong about this.

If the Wizards miss the playoffs while simultaneously squandering their #10-13 pick, I just don't see how any sane owner could keep the GM. Particularly when his contract has just expired (along with Wittman's).

If there was EVER a time to fire a GM, it would be this summer. Seriously. What could EG possibly do to get himself fired?

tontoz · Post #344 » by **tontoz** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:10 pm

nate33 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:probably won't be fired either

you don't give a GM the ability to trade a pick like that if you're even 50/50 on keeping him

God, I hope you are wrong about this.

If the Wizards miss the playoffs while simultaneously squandering their #10-13 pick, I just don't see how any sane owner could keep the GM. Particularly when his contract has just expired (along with Wittman's).

If there was EVER a time to fire a GM, it would be this summer. Seriously. What could EG possibly do to get himself fired?

That is the problem. Ted's ego renders him incapable of using basic common sense.

AFM · Post #345 » by **AFM** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:11 pm

Dark Faze is probably right unfortunately. Would you let your soon to be fired GM trade away your next GM's pick? Of course not.

dckingsfan · Post #346 » by **dckingsfan** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:21 pm

AFM wrote:Dark Faze is probably right unfortunately. Would you let your soon to be fired GM trade away your next GM's pick? Of course not.

Post #347 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:53 pm

Ted has been in "I'll show the doubters that if we wait long enough, I'll be proven right" mode, but I think this will finally be the straw that break's the stubborn owner's back.

closg00 · Post #348 » by **closg00** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:08 pm

The thing is, after all of his years with the Wizards, Ted doesn't appear to know or understand much about basketball if you've read his blog or listened to him being interviewed, he is almost like those posters here who kind of go-along wishfully with whatever EG does. Ted is going to hold EG's hand like a little boy as EG looks to rebuild again this summer, EG stays.

Jay81 · Post #349 » by **Jay81** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:42 pm

Ernie needs to go

fishercob · Post #350 » by **fishercob** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:43 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ[/youtube]

Post #351 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:03 pm

Fisher, you have stunningly good taste in music.

queridiculo · Post #352 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:58 pm

Read and weep.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/grunfer01x.html

Jay81 · Post #353 » by **Jay81** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:12 pm

queridiculo wrote:Read and weep.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/grunfer01x.html

too bad it dosent tell you who he passed up

fishercob · Post #354 » by **fishercob** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:10 pm

Ruzious wrote:Fisher, you have stunningly good taste in music.

I'm incredibly handsome too.

Nigel Tufnel · Post #355 » by **Nigel Tufnel** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:19 pm

Friggin Wizards are raising my ticket prices again. 6% increase for a team that's at least 20% worse, with a terrible future. They really have no shame. I'd gladly pay 10% more if they got rid of Ernie. I'm embarrassed to pay so much for this awful team.

closg00 · Post #356 » by **closg00** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:03 pm

Nigel Tufnel wrote:Friggin Wizards are raising my ticket prices again. 6% increase for a team that's at least 20% worse, with a terrible future. They really have no shame. I'd gladly pay 10% more if they got rid of Ernie. I'm embarrassed to pay so much for this awful team.

PIGS!!! They don't frigging care. The 6% increase when applied to the number of Sold Out *star-based* games neutralizes any decrease in revenue due to poorly attended games. Ernie keeps the wheel of mediocrity moving and Ted is fine with that.

payitforward · Post #357 » by **payitforward** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:09 pm

closg00 wrote:
Nigel Tufnel wrote:Friggin Wizards are raising my ticket prices again. 6% increase for a team that's at least 20% worse, with a terrible future. They really have no shame. I'd gladly pay 10% more if they got rid of Ernie. I'm embarrassed to pay so much for this awful team.

PIGS!!! They don't frigging care. The 6% increase when applied to the number of Sold Out *star-based* games neutralizes any decrease in revenue due to poorly attended games. Ernie keeps the wheel of mediocrity moving and Ted is fine with that.

Actually... hmmm. If enough people agreed they'd pay an extra 10% for their tickets if Ernie were fired, that might suffice to get it done!

We need to start a movement:

"10% more if you show Ernie the door!"

closg00 · Post #358 » by **closg00** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:47 am

Interesting reading
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/04/one-that-got-away.html

Post #359 » by **montestewart** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:58 am

payitforward wrote:
closg00 wrote:
Nigel Tufnel wrote:Friggin Wizards are raising my ticket prices again. 6% increase for a team that's at least 20% worse, with a terrible future. They really have no shame. I'd gladly pay 10% more if they got rid of Ernie. I'm embarrassed to pay so much for this awful team.

PIGS!!! They don't frigging care. The 6% increase when applied to the number of Sold Out *star-based* games neutralizes any decrease in revenue due to poorly attended games. Ernie keeps the wheel of mediocrity moving and Ted is fine with that.

Actually... hmmm. If enough people agreed they'd pay an extra 10% for their tickets if Ernie were fired, that might suffice to get it done!

We need to start a movement:

"10% more if you show Ernie the door!"

Don't make deals with the devil. He'll hire Billy King or Elgin Baylor, and it'll cost 20% next time.

milellie111 · Post #360 » by **milellie111** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:26 pm

Nigel Tufnel wrote:Friggin Wizards are raising my ticket prices again. 6% increase for a team that's at least 20% worse, with a terrible future. They really have no shame. I'd gladly pay 10% more if they got rid of Ernie. I'm embarrassed to pay so much for this awful team.

The record of the team should have no impact on ticket prices. You are paying for the experience, not the wins and losses. Why should your ticket price decrease? You are paying to see quality basketball from a team of professional NBA players led by an All Star (John Wall). Verizon Center is a top quality venue inclusive of gourmet food options, amenities, club lounges and suites. Teams like the Lakers and Knicks, ticket prices remain at a premium regardless of the teams record and Staples Center and Madison Square Garden regularly sell out. So again, why should your ticket price decrease?