The Trade-Mill - Trade Thread Part Infinity

[FlatearthZorro]

I thought this was very interesting:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14847858/houston-rockets-ceo-tad-brown-denies-james-harden-trade-request-demand-kevin-mchale-firing

Houston did make an effort to trade Howard, with the goal of getting a first-round pick for him. When deals failed to achieve this, Morey was able to move Donatas Motiejunas and Marcus Thornton to the Detroit Pistons for a first-round pick. Motiejunas failed his physical, and the trade was later rescinded.

Wow. Does this mean Danny only offered 2nd round picks? Lol at Morey not getting anything for a guy who's sure to leave at the end of the season.

I don't wanna sound cocky, but I said it before, I'll say it again, Morey outsmarted himself. I freaking knew he was gonna...

[Fencer reregistered]

Apparently the Lopez twins have rather different games, with Brook being the scorer and Robin being the utility/glue guy.

That said, whatever Brook can do is something I would imagine Robin can more or less learn ..

The right deal is obviously a 3 team trade with the Knicks and LA, the Clippers will move Blake, they would need a win-now piece that fits their spread offense, that guy is Carmelo who will only wave his no-trade clause for 2-3 cities, including LA, the Knicks own their own 2017 pick and could take a step back for one year and reload, they'd likely ask for Smart and whomever you draft with the Nets pick, which likely would be a 4-5th selection, probably you'd have to toss a filler, Amir Johnson, and maybe another youngster, like James Young.

That's a price for sure you'd be willing to pay for Blake, since the trade would be done when the cap is already at 92 or 95m$ you could also absorbe Robin Lopez, who the Knicks might want to trade and fits nicely along Blake, with his passing and defense.

I could see the Clippers taking on Calderon/O'Quinn as well, they would be over the cap anyway and they need rotation players, they could send Jamal (cancer who plays no D and just chucks), who is in a non-guaranteed deal to NY, for cap purposes.

Something like this,

to Boston, Blake Griffin, Robin Lopez.
to LA, Carmelo Anthony, José Calderon, Kyle O'Quinn.
to NY, Amir Johnson, Jamal Crawford, Marcus Smart, James Young, Nets 2016 selection.

Would be a really fair deal that make sense for all teams, maybe the Clippers would ask for a 2nd rounder or something from Boston, but you do it anyway in that case, or the rights of somebody you draft this year with the bunch of 2nds you have.

Thomas-Bradley-Crowder-Griffin-Lopez, plus the ability of keeping your bench plays and adding others, and getting Jerebko/Turner in for smallball units with Griffin at C is a tremendous foundation.
Especially since you still would have cap flexibility, some nice young prospects and a ton of picks to keep building the team or adding another future stud, possibly Gordon Hayward down the road?

Thomas-Bradley-Hayward-Crowder-Griffin would be bananas.

[Steelo Green]

I come in peace guys, but I have a question. Why is KD not a viable option for you? I haven't heard any rumblings, but maybe your beat reporters have in local news stations?

KD would make you the best in the East (though same can probably be said for Toronto as well), but I think the fit is incredible.

[Froob]

I come in peace guys, but I have a question. Why is KD not a viable option for you? I haven't heard any rumblings, but maybe your beat reporters have in local news stations?

KD would make you the best in the East (though same can probably be said for Toronto as well), but I think the fit is incredible.

No doubt he'd be great here. But, I don't see him a viable option for anybody but, GS unless I severely underestimate how much he likes DC. Unless he gets a sense that Russ and/or Ibaka are leaving not sure why he'd leave unless it was to a better team. Boston's management and coaching (OKC's new coach is decent I think?) is better but, stars like Russ don't grow on trees.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The right deal is obviously a 3 team trade with the Knicks and LA, the Clippers will move Blake, they would need a win-now piece that fits their spread offense, that guy is Carmelo who will only wave his no-trade clause for 2-3 cities, including LA, the Knicks own their own 2017 pick and could take a step back for one year and reload, they'd likely ask for Smart and whomever you draft with the Nets pick, which likely would be a 4-5th selection, probably you'd have to toss a filler, Amir Johnson, and maybe another youngster, like James Young.

That's a price for sure you'd be willing to pay for Blake, since the trade would be done when the cap is already at 92 or 95m$ you could also absorbe Robin Lopez, who the Knicks might want to trade and fits nicely along Blake, with his passing and defense.

I could see the Clippers taking on Calderon/O'Quinn as well, they would be over the cap anyway and they need rotation players, they could send Jamal (cancer who plays no D and just chucks), who is in a non-guaranteed deal to NY, for cap purposes.

Something like this,

to Boston, Blake Griffin, Robin Lopez.
to LA, Carmelo Anthony, José Calderon, Kyle O'Quinn.
to NY, Amir Johnson, Jamal Crawford, Marcus Smart, James Young, Nets 2016 selection.

Would be a really fair deal that make sense for all teams, maybe the Clippers would ask for a 2nd rounder or something from Boston, but you do it anyway in that case, or the rights of somebody you draft this year with the bunch of 2nds you have.

Thomas-Bradley-Crowder-Griffin-Lopez, plus the ability of keeping your bench plays and adding others, and getting Jerebko/Turner in for smallball units with Griffin at C is a tremendous foundation.
Especially since you still would have cap flexibility, some nice young prospects and a ton of picks to keep building the team or adding another future stud, possibly Gordon Hayward down the road?

Thomas-Bradley-Hayward-Crowder-Griffin would be bananas.

If I'm the Clips, I'd say no. They lose the best player, then get the largest salary albatross out of the deal. If I'm the Clippers, I'd rather take Marcus Smart, the Nets pick, Young, and Amir for Blake over Carmelo.

[ConstableGeneva]

If I'm the Knicks, I'll cut the Celtics out and just swap Melo for Griffin straight up.
If I'm the Clippers, I'll take Bradley, Crowder, KO, Nets pick for Griffin and use the Nets pick to get a starting PF.
If I'm the Celtics, I'm keeping Smart and Crowder off the table as much as possible but neither is a deal-breaker for a top 10 player.

If I'm Durant, I'm joining the Celtics this July just because.

[Banks2Pierce]

If I'm Durant, I'm joining the Celtics this July just because.

Spurs/Thunder in the 2nd round is a lock. Hoping the Spurs sweep them in demoralizing fashion.

Seems the GSW scenario is very freaking real. Hoping they win 73 games and the Finals. Think that could discourage both parties from pursuing it.

Take GSW and OKC off the board and it gets very real.

[Froob]

If I'm the Knicks, I'll cut the Celtics out and just swap Melo for Griffin straight up.
If I'm the Clippers, I'll take Bradley, Crowder, KO, Nets pick for Griffin and use the Nets pick to get a starting PF.
If I'm the Celtics, I'm keeping Smart and Crowder off the table as much as possible but neither is a deal-breaker for a top 10 player.

If I'm Durant, I'm joining the Celtics this July just because.

Lucky for us Doc is running the show in LA. He'll probably take Bradley and give us Blake and two first somehow. Doc loves former players of his.

[Drax]

I come in peace guys, but I have a question. Why is KD not a viable option for you? I haven't heard any rumblings, but maybe your beat reporters have in local news stations?

KD would make you the best in the East (though same can probably be said for Toronto as well), but I think the fit is incredible.

At this point we're all being realistic, KD would be the dream. But in reality it's highly unlikely unless we can swing a deal on draft night for an other big time player. We all hope it happens but it's just too emotionally exhausting to invest in the fantasy of KD in green right now with no indicators from anyside he'd consider Boston.

[soxfan2003]

I honestly believe Boston > OKC for Kevin Durant.

Boston Celtics can spend a little more money during the next 5-6 years at a minimum.
Celtics has lots of picks and OKC doesn't.
Celtics roster is a better fit for his skill-set as well.

Other than the Warriors, the Celtics are probably his best bet for winning a championship while getting paid. Yes, better odds than OKC.

If you were an NBA gm, would you rather have the Celtics situation with KD, plus lots of picks including a top 1-5 2016 pick and salary cap room or OKC with a similar team that they have now? I would take the Celtics situation in a heartbeat since Boston owners have more money to spend as well.

[lon3lytoaster]

I come in peace guys, but I have a question. Why is KD not a viable option for you? I haven't heard any rumblings, but maybe your beat reporters have in local news stations?

KD would make you the best in the East (though same can probably be said for Toronto as well), but I think the fit is incredible.

That's the dream, of course. I don't know if KD will see it that way, but that's why getting to the ECF is paramount for this team. Winning a couple games against Cleveland would be gravy. The Raps are definitely a tough out for us this year in the second round, though. Makes the lack of moves at the deadline even more frustrating.

I definitely think Boston will have a lot to pitch to KD, though. Cap space, trade assets and 2 more potential top-5 picks from Brooklyn. There are definitely parts to build a dynasty with. That's what we need to sell him on.

Biggest thing is going to be making at least a decent amount of noise in the playoffs. Next would either be winning the lottery for Simmons or trading the pick for another high end, borderline all star type like a Jimmy Butler.

Hell, we could win the lottery, trade for a Jimmy Butler type using Crowder and future Brooklyn picks and still have more than enough cap space for a max free agent.

A lot, a lot of possibilities. Hopefully KD sees it.

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brohrbach/status/702905075795173376[/tweet]

[soxfan2003]

I come in peace guys, but I have a question. Why is KD not a viable option for you? I haven't heard any rumblings, but maybe your beat reporters have in local news stations?

KD would make you the best in the East (though same can probably be said for Toronto as well), but I think the fit is incredible.

At this point we're all being realistic, KD would be the dream. But in reality it's highly unlikely unless we can swing a deal on draft night for an other big time player. We all hope it happens but it's just too emotionally exhausting to invest in the fantasy of KD in green right now with no indicators from anyside he'd consider Boston.

KD needs to be persuaded that the Celtics as currently constructed are a 57-60 win team with him right now. With tons of picks, Boston doesn't need the biggest names(Love, Carmelo) to win with KD but they just need their players like the Warriors when they added Bogut/Iggy.

And the Celtics will have more than enough resources/picks to pull it off. Knocking off GS very tough but getting past Cleveland with KD on the Celtics shouldn't be that tough at all if the Celtics make the right moves. And the Cavs don't add a difference maker.

Ainge/really has to play the media game to make the case for Boston because KD is a world class idiot if he doesn't very strongly consider the Celtics...this only assumes KD doesn't care that much about the cold which realistically I think is a bit overblown for NBA players since they are on the road half of the time. The Celtics should literally be his 2nd stop in FA behind the Warriors. He is a damn fool if he doesn't consider a 48 win Celtics team that has the cap room/pick situation that the Celtics currently have.

Yes, Warriors better situation but risky to go to a 73 win team and then get blamed if they don't win it all in impressive fashion. With Boston, an NBA finals appearance is at least a success.

If he wants the best chance to win 2-3 championships, pick Golden State. If he wants the best chance to improve his legacy, go to the Celtics and knock off an aging Lebron in the playoffs. And be his teams best player.

[Banks2Pierce]

Other than the Warriors, the Celtics are probably his best bet for winning a championship while getting paid. Yes, better odds than OKC.

Right, a lot of people have trouble seeing past OKC since they will win ~55 games this year and made it to the Finals. But make Durant a FA with no prior allegiance. OKC was a 8/9 seed without Durant. Boston will be a 3 seed with a 49-52 win core in place and returning just about everybody. Durant comes, keep Amir, retain Sully, no other moves and it's a contender. BKN pick can churn over a more obvious beacon that we're for real, but it's statistically and financially a tough situation to beat as-is.

[canman1971]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brohrbach/status/702905075795173376[/tweet]

That was awesome.

[Edug27]

Only on this board is Boston a better place than OKC for Durant. We convince ourselves of it. Until Durant goes elsewhere and we convince ourselves we never had a shot.

[2Mas]

Only on this board is Boston a better place than OKC for Durant. We convince ourselves of it. Until Durant goes elsewhere and we convince ourselves we never had a shot.

Word. But you know what, it's kinda sad cause we could potential be a real destination spot. We have everything in place, just need the stud.

However, between the $ & Westbrook, why would he leave OKC? Maybe he dont wanna deal with Gsw & Sas (lets hope?) & wants to come east to challenge an aging Lbj? Possbily, but doubtful.

I do think he'll give us a look, but I don't think he'll choose us. But boy would he be a stud here. Tailored made for KD lol. He'd avg 35.

[Darth Celtic]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brohrbach/status/702905075795173376[/tweet]

Probably the funniest thing i've read in months.

[Captain_Caveman]

I come in peace guys, but I have a question. Why is KD not a viable option for you? I haven't heard any rumblings, but maybe your beat reporters have in local news stations?

KD would make you the best in the East (though same can probably be said for Toronto as well), but I think the fit is incredible.

I'd say 50% Warriors, 40% Thunder, 10% everyone else.

Of that 10%, we have as good a shot as anyone, if not better.

[Edug27]

Only on this board is Boston a better place than OKC for Durant. We convince ourselves of it. Until Durant goes elsewhere and we convince ourselves we never had a shot.

Word. But you know what, it's kinda sad cause we could potential be a real destination spot. We have everything in place, just need the stud.

However, between the $ & Westbrook, why would he leave OKC? Maybe he dont wanna deal with Gsw & Sas (lets hope?) & wants to come east to challenge an aging Lbj? Possbily, but doubtful.

I do think he'll give us a look, but I don't think he'll choose us. But boy would he be a stud here. Tailored made for KD lol. He'd avg 35.

Depends on what angle you are looking at it from. Do we have everything in place based on what KD is looking for in a team to finish his career with? Not even close. Step 1 is you need at least one other elite NBA player.

And personally. I don't see him coming out East simply because of Lebron. You can say the West has GS, but it's just different. Lebron is a personal matchup for him that he always loses. The Spurs will be losing Timmy, Manu and possible Parker soon. Why would you want to come out East? Idk. I don't think he considers Boston aside from just being polite. Unless of course Danny makes a splashy draft day trade... Only one that'll grab attention would be the number 1 pick (and others) for AD.. which I dont see happening.