Giannis' Development

[Magic Giannison]

Well said Har13 Non-greeks check Har13's signature to get a feeling of a greek teams home crowd during the big games.
The thing I miss probably the most, being in Germany. Here it is like going to church

my friend i was at the game yesterday with fener xd...for zeljko ..fantastic atmosphere

Yeah you will never see such atmosphere in the NBA but at the same time you wont see vandalism as well.

[3Diamantidis]

0/4 jumpers tonight

[greekbuck34]

0/4 jumpers tonight

His confidence in the last two games as with our whole team is in terrible level and this condition is crucial for Giannis jumpshot effectiveness atm.

[3Diamantidis]

0/4 jumpers tonight

His confidence in the last two games as with our whole team is in terrible level and this condition is crucial for Giannis jumpshot effectiveness atm.

He must not shoot then. We've said that before. Play with your strenghts until you get the shot.
Tonight's 8 pts really made me go back a month or two.
He is a better player these 1-2 last months. He can do everything.
Just go to the rim giannis and work the FTs. For this season i can settle with that.

[greekbuck34]

0/4 jumpers tonight

His confidence in the last two games as with our whole team is in terrible level and this condition is crucial for Giannis jumpshot effectiveness atm.

He must not shoot then. We've said that before. Play with your strenghts until you get the shot.
Tonight's 8 pts really made me go back a month or two.
He is a better player these 1-2 last months. He can do everything.
Just go to the rim giannis and work the FTs. For this season i can settle with that.

I agree but going to the rim against waiting Drummond and the other big guy I forget atm was at least as bad idea even for a driving freak like Giannis.

[3Diamantidis]

His confidence in the last two games as with our whole team is in terrible level and this condition is crucial for Giannis jumpshot effectiveness atm.

He must not shoot then. We've said that before. Play with your strenghts until you get the shot.
Tonight's 8 pts really made me go back a month or two.
He is a better player these 1-2 last months. He can do everything.
Just go to the rim giannis and work the FTs. For this season i can settle with that.

I agree but going to the rim against waiting Drummond and the other big guy I forget atm was at least as bad idea even for a driving freak like Giannis.

Not a bad idea at all. He went to the line only 2(!) times. He could have easily got fouled by drummond.
He would go to the line, possibly make some pts more, do the job that monroe didn't(get drummond out of the game for some time), maybe pass the ball for an easy lay up or dunk by our big.
He didn't penetrate at all.

[3Diamantidis]

Green had 0/8 at GS@OKC tonight. Only 2 pts.
......14 boards, 14 assists, 6 steals, 4 blocks
If giannis can be like him one day, all of us would be more than happy i think.
He CAN do it.

[bigkurty]

It is only 5 games so a small samples size but here are the guys who have put up 17-11-6 like Giannis has in the last 5 games at the young age of 21.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=17&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=11&c3stat=ast_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=6&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=0&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws
I wonder if he will ever be able to do it over the course of an entire season.

[Chapter29]

Giannis badly needs a summer with Bucks trainers / Bucks trainer provided work plan.

Get stronger. Work on his handle. And take at least 1001 shots per day. His form is decent but needs to be quicker. Part of that is his pausing prior to shooting, part of that is his form.

[MiltownHawkeye]

Yeah he hesitated on at least 2 or 3 of those jumpers he took, passing up better shots in terms of space and rhythm. He needs to be coached out of that. It's not just that it messes up his own shot, but it lets the defense set which affects the rest of the team.

As far as point Giannis goes it seems like he's going through something of a learning curve with regards to when to attack and when to facilitate. I'm still extremely encouraged by what we're seeing. If Kidd gets his head out of his ass and benches MCW for the rest of the game after his 3rd or 4th TO, we're probably talking about his second TD in 3 games.

[Ron Swanson]

Green had 0/8 at GS@OKC tonight. Only 2 pts.
......14 boards, 14 assists, 6 steals, 4 blocks
If giannis can be like him one day, all of us would be more than happy i think.
He CAN do it.

I agree that Giannis can easily make up for a poor scoring night by doing everything else (REB, AST, BLK). But Draymond Green is never going to be the best player on a championship team. I have higher aspirations for Giannis than Draymond, and I think he's already a potent offensive threat even without a jump shot. Not at all worried about his development if he can at least be able to hit an open 3 consistently in the next 2-3 years.

[paulpressey25]

Giannis is going to look amazingly better on offense the minute we get Monroe out and also add a true second three point threat in the lineup next to him other than Khris.

[Fotis St]

Giannis badly needs a summer with Bucks trainers / Bucks trainer provided work plan.

Get stronger. Work on his handle. And take at least 1001 shots per day. His form is decent but needs to be quicker. Part of that is his pausing prior to shooting, part of that is his form.

I don't trust Buck's trainers... Flashback ...
With Larry Drew Giannis was playing as a SG
Then Jason Kidd happened...
Giannis played as a PG in summer league and some games at the start. The experiment was stopped...
Then Giannis was moved to the SF position. With Dudley and Ersan as stretch fours Giannis was settled at the SF position
Then Jabari Parker was picked... Ersan and Dudley where gone. Parker's liability on defense had an effect on Giannis... Giannis was moved to the PF position... Parker at the SF didn't shoot well so they moved him back to the PF position and Giannis to the SF position.
Both Jabari and Giannis were ordered not to shoot the 3. ... their confidence hits the bottom ...
Then after B.Knight traded MCW came... Then MCW can't perform as a true PG
The MCW effect is Giannis now playing the PG !!!
What a mess ...I beg the owners to fire the coaching staff asap !!!

[greekbuck34]

Green had 0/8 at GS@OKC tonight. Only 2 pts.
......14 boards, 14 assists, 6 steals, 4 blocks
If giannis can be like him one day, all of us would be more than happy i think.
He CAN do it.

I just saw the OKC vs GSW. Maybe the best game in the last 2-3 regular seasons.

Green is maybe right now the best versatile PF in the league but I would like to watch him put these stats in a team like the Bucks and our brick festivals or atleast an average team like the Pistons before calling him the best example.
In the GSW with the screens of Bogut, the shooters like Curry, Thompson, Barnes etc who can made atleast half their shots no matter the defense or the spot in everygame and the general perfect ball movement, even JOB could average atleast 6 assists running the point. They are working like a machine and you can't credit Green's assists only on his vision when Curry and Thompson attract players like a magnet no matter what, opening enough space for two wide open teamates.

Other than that with the exception of the 3p shot(Which he only fixed this season) Green of GSW posts similar stats with point forward Giannis of the Bucks.

The refs also give him the GSW treatment in everygame no matter his level of contact while he is defending. Giannis would have averaged at least 2 fouls less playing with the champions.

Don't forget that he is also 5-6 years older.

[3Diamantidis]

btw...if the bucks had won one of boston/detroit encounters giannis would have enough chances to be named eastern conference player of the week......i think.
In the week 22-29/2 he has these numbers(in 3 games):

16.3pts(with 49.3 FG%), 10.3rebs, 8.3asts, 2.3blks, 1.3stls and 2TOs.

These are awesome stats, but the team lost 2 out of 3 games. So i don't think he'll make it.

Let's go for the next week

[Chapter29]

Giannis badly needs a summer with Bucks trainers / Bucks trainer provided work plan.

Get stronger. Work on his handle. And take at least 1001 shots per day. His form is decent but needs to be quicker. Part of that is his pausing prior to shooting, part of that is his form.

I don't trust Buck's trainers... Flashback ...
With Larry Drew Giannis was playing as a SG
Then Jason Kidd happened...
Giannis played as a PG in summer league and some games at the start. The experiment was stopped...
Then Giannis was moved to the SF position. With Dudley and Ersan as stretch fours Giannis was settled at the SF position
Then Jabari Parker was picked... Ersan and Dudley where gone. Parker's liability on defense had an effect on Giannis... Giannis was moved to the PF position... Parker at the SF didn't shoot well so they moved him back to the PF position and Giannis to the SF position.
Both Jabari and Giannis were ordered not to shoot the 3. ... their confidence hits the bottom ...
Then after B.Knight traded MCW came... Then MCW can't perform as a true PG
The MCW effect is Giannis now playing the PG !!!
What a mess ...I beg the owners to fire the coaching staff asap !!!

I don't know, that's all blown out of proportion if you ask me. So, believe what you want.

They can provide a perfectly good training regime I would gather. Better than going overseas and playing competitive ball with a new team and a new system.

[emunney]

We replaced our training staff less than a year ago. Flanagan was hired last April. Suki followed a month later.

[Prez]

What are your guys' expectations for him next year? Where do want him to be to be satisfied with his development?

[Fotis St]

21p 9r 5 as.... But I want from coach and the Bucks organisation to understand that they got the true No1 overall pick in 2013 and this is Giannis, also they got the No2 in 2014 Jabari. There is no need to tank... build around them and they might stay for long. Khris is a great piece. All you got to do is what the Wolves did with Wiggins and Towns... Unleash them before it is too late. Even Towns is allowed to hit 3s.

[Prince12]

21p 9r 5 as.... But I want from coach and the Bucks organisation to understand that they got the true No1 overall pick in 2013 and this is Giannis, also they got the No2 in 2014 Jabari. There is no need to tank... build around them and they might stay for long. Khris is a great piece. All you got to do is what the Wolves did with Wiggins and Towns... Unleash them before it is too late. Even Towns is allowed to hit 3s.

They aren't tanking now and not for one second where they trying to. They were going for it with Moose just like the Jabari year. They won't tank next year but adding a top 5 pick would certainly be nice.