Coach Scott implements all new offensive sets during Thursday's practice

Post #1 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:39 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/billoram/status/703465337304412166[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/billoram/status/703466548208410624[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/billoram/status/703466839980929024[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/703467311416520704[/tweet]

for me it helps explain why during tonight's game vs the grizz they looked to be taking forever to start attacking but unfortunately it seemed like their end goal was to get Hibbert a post up near the 3pt line or set up some type of Iso.

What'd you guys see tonight? hopefully there's some improvement going forward

Post #2 » by **Slava** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:42 am

I don't see anything different. With the Spurs offense, there's a ton of give and gos and a lot of cutting, selfless off the ball screens to free up shooters. If you god forbid pass the ball to Randle or Lou, you ain't gettin it back and I did not see a single cut or screen being set to get D'Angelo more options.

Post #3 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:51 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/billoram/status/703470664213106688[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes/status/703470602628108292[/tweet]

one practice in the middle of the season against no defense, recipe for success i suppose. don't recall a time when a coach changed offensive system mid season, much less after one practice seemingly after just doing a walk through with it

moonpie · Post #4 » by **moonpie** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:52 am

gotokyo · Post #5 » by **gotokyo** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:39 am

Tank commander byron coming up clutch in crunch time.

Post #6 » by **milesfides** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:48 am

D'Angelo Russell's most impressive skill so far? Gently laying Scott under the bus.

ArC_man · Post #7 » by **ArC_man** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:59 am

BScott, such a genius tank commander. Young guys starting to get it and build chemistry? Implement completely new offense with 20 games left to play.

SlimShady83 · Post #8 » by **SlimShady83** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:27 pm

He'll becoming up with a new defensive soon ... lmao ... I'm loving everything he says.

tugs · Post #9 » by **tugs** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:36 pm

So that explains it. Noticed that early in the first when they were feeding Hibbert a lot. Weird though since there weren't really any off ball movements.

Very subtle tank move I agree.

Post #10 » by **TyCobb** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:46 pm

Scott literally can't win.

TylersLakers · Post #11 » by **TylersLakers** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:54 pm

Ah man, every post game there's some sort of excuse or something. It's pretty funny lol.

Westbreezy · Post #12 » by **Westbreezy** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:46 pm

TylersLakers wrote:Ah man, every post game there's some sort of excuse or something. It's pretty funny lol.

Going on twitter after games to read quotes is becoming more interesting than the games themselves

Marionettetc · Post #13 » by **Marionettetc** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:06 pm

If you guys want the full lol experience, follow the lakers nation youtube channel. They archive all the post game interviews

ArC_man · Post #14 » by **ArC_man** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:28 am

Looks like we were trying to run the Spurs motion weak, I think it's a good development.

Here's how the set starts: PG (Clarkson or Russell) gets the ball, passes it to a wing (Anthony Brown) and cuts to the weak side. Brown then reverses the ball to the trailing big (Randle) at the top of the key. Randle then passes it back to the PG who made the cut. At this point there are a myriad of options and counters and unfortunately it seems like they didn't have time to go over many options after this. I thought that Russell and Randle had success running the set (which is why many of us have want them to be running something similar) but Clarkson tends to stop the offense when he gets the ball back (maybe because he doesn't know what's supposed to come next).

I looked over our offensive possessions in the 1st quarter and we went to it for most of our half-court possessions. Highlighting a couple of plays

Russell's vision on display here
http://on.nba.com/1Lmom1E

Here Clarkson is the PG and Russell is the wing, Clarkson is denied the pass from Randle and Randle reverses it to Russell. Russell fakes the PnR and gets an open floater. This also shows that there is at least some form of progression. One option is denied and there is a counter.
http://on.nba.com/1Lmks8W

Randle gets the ball, breaks the set and just drives to the rim for a foul. I think Randle is unique in that he can make plays like this for a change of pace once in a while.
http://on.nba.com/1Lmo8re

Here's an example where Clarkson just stops the offense
http://on.nba.com/1LmoT3E

Here's a compilation of the Spurs running it.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOaC9gx7VTM[/youtube]

Obviously our off ball screening, player motion, and timing are nothing compared to the Spurs since they invented it and we had essentially 1 practice to implement this against no defense.

cashflo · Post #15 » by **cashflo** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:48 am

Byron never seizes to amaze... Tank on brother tank on!

gts1 · Post #16 » by **gts1** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:51 am

TyCobb wrote:Scott literally can't win.

Scott begins to install new sets one day, doesn't come to immediate fruition, team looks a bit out of sync next game, Laker nation implodes because it's not running on all cylinders after one or two practices.... lol

anyways, good to implement something different as the players evolve, great time to get a jump on next season, make better use of 2016 training camp if Scott is still the coach

Post #17 » by **Goudelock** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:59 am

Here's a haiku I came up with that summarizes the Lakers offense:

Lou Will shoots the ball.

Fading sideways, he misses.

Byron folds his arms.

Dr Aki · Post #18 » by **Dr Aki** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:30 am

lol, if we're now running spurs sets, why the hell did we fire mike brown in the first place???

Post #19 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:38 am

gts1 wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Scott literally can't win.
Scott begins to install new sets one day, doesn't come to immediate fruition, team looks a bit out of sync next game, Laker nation implodes because it's not running on all cylinders after one or two practices.... lol

anyways, good to implement something different as the players evolve, great time to get a jump on next season, make better use of 2016 training camp if Scott is still the coach

Don't think I've seen anyone complain that it wasn't running on all cylynders. For me, while any change from the previous system is probably good, this change and how it was implemented certainly brings a lot of questions to the surface.

For me it makes no sense, if Scott has any idea what he's doing and any actual plan, for him to wait till after a 3 game road trip and one practice to implemented a system. It makes no sense cause they just completed an extended All star break where they had 3 straight days off filled with practice.

To me, the question that I keep asking in light of this is if the front office stepped in and forced Scott to abandon his system and implement one more to their liking.

Post #20 » by **Slava** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:35 am

The change in offense could also do more with inserting Russell into the line up and minus Kobe and Hibbert, this is pretty much our future starting line up unless things change in free agency so introducing a new system isn't totally a bad idea. At worst he was going to do it in the off-season and doing it now only gives us a 24 game sample size in addition to evaluate and improve.

Ofcourse I'm giving Byron a lot of credit here.