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Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1501 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:14 am

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He does not hurt us defensively. Does he have a ways to go as a defender? Yeah, but he's not a empty stat stuffer.


If we didn't have Winslow, he'd probably be our most impactful defensive player. Winslow makes him look bad because he's like...the best defensive rookie I've ever seen.
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1502 » by Lord Hades » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:40 pm

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1503 » by Bishop45 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:04 pm

Lord Hades wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/702894086034837505[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/702894433872666624[/tweet]
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1504 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:20 pm

Wonder what the exact numbers are for last 25 games. Eye test tells me Hassan plays more disciplined lately, going further out on shooters, toned down the chasing of blocks and playing next to Justise more also helps.

Coming off the bench..
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1506 » by QUIZ » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:56 pm

Lord Hades wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/702894086034837505[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/702894433872666624[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/702894897997549568[/tweet]

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1507 » by Rich2Hassan » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:12 pm

Where's ETHAN SKOLNICK???? WHERE YA AT ETHAN? Oh and a few posters on here whom were throwing the stats around like a hot potato. :lol:
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1508 » by CanesHeatFins » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:44 pm

In my opinion "advanced" defensive metrics don't account for enough variables and have far too many holes in it for me to declare them as gospel simply because someone decided to slap the word "advanced" on it. All i know is that we're giving up 102ppg in the 9 games hassan missed this year and 95.9 in the games that he's played in.
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1509 » by Slot Machine » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:57 pm

Wow, who would have thought it was unwise to use numbers that work best in long-term situations, only a little bit into the season?
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1510 » by dolphinatik » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:05 pm

I think it's less, he is going back to what he did earlier which is staying home in the paint more and having good results doing it. As one member posted he was in the game mych of the third and fourth with no touches so the statistic will say he was not effective but the eye test will say he was not utilized.
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1511 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:57 pm

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### Hassan Whiteside said Heat coach Erik Spoelstra informed him that “coming off the bench is not long term.”
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1512 » by Rastas » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:48 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:-Barry Jackson

### Hassan Whiteside said Heat coach Erik Spoelstra informed him that “coming off the bench is not long term.”



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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1513 » by KingDavid » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:41 pm

dolphinatik wrote:I think it's less, he is going back to what he did earlier which is staying home in the paint more and having good results doing it. As one member posted he was in the game mych of the third and fourth with no touches so the statistic will say he was not effective but the eye test will say he was not utilized.

That's correct. He wasn't utilized when he started the third. That's going to be a continuing pattern if we start him. Wade and Dragic are going to start things off being super aggressive by driving inside (which is what we want) while Hassan is in there, wasting energy and clogging the lane. It's best for him to come in like 3-5 minutes into a half, provide loads of energy and bench points. He plays excellent when he has a high amount of touches. This whole start and bench ego crap is just a bunch of foolishness. Our guards need a few minutes each half to set a pace and get going. If Wade and Dragic had 3pt shots that could make you pay, then starting Hassan would be wonderful. Or on the other hand, Hassan having a jumper like CB. But that isn't the case.

The alternative would be having Wade off the bench. We all know why that will never happen. We've been saying all year that the fit amongst the starters is bad. Suffering from slow starts and such. It is bad. But it's excellent of we spread them a little.
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1515 » by heat4life » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:30 pm

Hassan is doing an excellent job of improving on the things he can control and ignoring everything else. His focus, energy and disposition is night and day. Match that with special talents and you have yourself a monster of a player. The numbers, analytics and recognitions will come along on their own. He is getting better and with that he is making his team better. Those are traits of a super star. If he keeps that attitude and keeps dominating the way we always knew he could, he will get everything he deserves. Kudos to him and let's hope he keeps it going.
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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1516 » by Heat3 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:05 pm

I still can't believe Hassan fell out of the sky for us. A gift from the basketball gods in our hour of greatest need!

Probably Wilt is up there looking down on Riles. Grabbed a figurine of Whiteside, embodied it with a bit of his aura, and set it down in his model of the AAA ala Clash of the Titans.

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1517 » by TroubleS0me » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:54 am

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1518 » by Mars » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:25 pm

Marc Stein's Trimester Awards

Defensive Player of the Second Trimester: Hassan Whiteside, HEAT

Marc Stein | ESPN
February 27, 2016

Instinct tells me that the real-life DPOY balloting in mid-April after the regular season ends is going to be dominated by a familiar duo: San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard and Golden State's Draymond Green.

They're the top two individuals on the NBA map when it comes to two-way players... and they occupied the top two spots in last year's DPOY voting in a ridiculously close race in which Green actually collected more first-place votes but slipped to runner-up status because he appeared on fewer overall ballots.

However...

If we're really going to laser in on the middle third of the season exclusively, which is most certainty what the Trimester concept was founded upon, Miami's Hassan Whiteside has the strongest case to get the nod here.

It's not so much because Whiteside, entering the springtime stretch run, is the NBA's runaway leader in blocked shots per game this season at 3.85.

It has far more to do with the dramatic turnaround for Miami defensively in 2016 with Whiteside anchoring the D.

Through December, you'll recall, Miami's defense was actually better with Whiteside on the bench than on the floor, allowing 94.5 points per 100 possessions when he was sitting compared to 102.8 points per 100 possessions when he was playing.

But the Heat's resistance as a team has done a dramatic 180 since the calendar flipped to a new year. Entering Wednesday night's big South Beach showdown with Golden State, Miami was allowing 104.2 points per 100 possessions since Jan. 1 with Whiteside spectacting... compared to an ultra-stingy 96.0 points per 100 possessions with Whiteside on the floor.

It's a U-turn that had to be recognized and rewarded while we have the opportunity, knowing that Leonard and/or Green will be so tough to top six weeks from now.

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1519 » by QUIZ » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:13 pm

And there u go. This is why we watch basket ball with our eyes, not with stat sheets.

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Re: Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max 

Post#1520 » by Rich2Hassan » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:49 pm

Another solid game by the GOAT. 13PTS 15REBS 8BLKS. #MAXCAT
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