Charlotte vs Atlanta Sun 2/28 3:30PM EST

[Kswiss]

Lol true he's been atrocious in every way, I went to a game live at GSW, and watched him play live and couldn't believe how awful he is, I'm not even sure if he'd make my YMCA team. We'd have to bulk him up a bit and give him some athleticism/Basketball skills/IQ/toughness/desire/competitiveness/pride/manhood before taking him seriously for rec league.

Now you know why I get so mad when Hansbrough does not play in a game like this, and in fact rots on the bench almost every game. He never lacks for "skills/IQ/toughness/desire/competitiveness/pride/manhood," except for the occasional silly foul. Look at my post on the "World Peace" thread. He beats Kaminsky and Hawes in almost every statistical category. He may look unathletic and has an unconventional game, but there are multiple reasons his teams do better when he plays regular minutes.

People get riled up when I say the Hornets need him, but it's true.

Oh I agree completely I've actually been posting about why he should get Al's minutes. He's better in every way, better screens, way better rebounding, better defense, better hustle, more willing passer etc. This goes for Cody as well who is utter garbage lol. I think we should start Marvin at Center and just play smallball. There aren't many bigs in the league that can punish you anyway (perhaps certain matchups I'd start Hansbrough or Hawes)

[fatlever]

Two best defensive performances I've seen vs us this year have been by the Hawks, 2nd game of season and this one. They completely smothered us from the start. I don't think I saw us take an open shot until about midway thru 2nd quarter. We weren't ready, were ice cold and they played some kick ass defense early and late. By the time we started getting some open looks guys had no confidence as evidenced by the many missed layups and missed FTs.

Hard to even have a shot at winning with both Kemba and Batum shoot so horribly, but again, some credit has to go to Atlanta for taking us out of everything.

Sweet block by Lin. That was fun. That was probably the only thing I liked about the game.

And as bad as we played, we were still only down 2 in the 4th, on the last game of a 5 game road trip vs a good team. Credit to the team for fighting back, twice.

[fatlever]

BTW, which strip club in Atlanta do you think our guys went to last night? We were in Atlanta all day yesterday, on a Saturday night, definitely a strip club involved. Guys were probably out til 4AM, with a game in the afternoon, LOL.

[Braggins]

Just now watching the game. I'm pretty sure teams shoot half court shots against us at a higher percentage than PJ shoots field goals in general.

[MasterIchiro]

So Cody can't rebound, can't convert, can't draw fouls, can't shoot from range. what can he do? Why did they draft this POS? Makes my blood boil.

You haven't been watching us much recently, have you?

His stats in the month of February - 25 mpg, 10 points, 7 boards, 10% ORB% (leads team), 21% DRB% (third on team), 55% FG, 61% TS%, 113 ORTG, 98 DRTG (highest net rating among rotation players)

Name one skill Cody has. The dude is a garbage collector.

[MasterIchiro]

So Cody can't rebound, can't convert, can't draw fouls, can't shoot from range. what can he do? Why did they draft this POS? Makes my blood boil.

You haven't been watching us much recently, have you?

His stats in the month of February - 25 mpg, 10 points, 7 boards, 10% ORB% (leads team), 21% DRB% (third on team), 55% FG, 61% TS%, 113 ORTG, 98 DRTG (highest net rating among rotation players)

We've all watched him suck. And if you want to talk about watching the games, I'd don't believe you've watched a single game without your rose colored glasses. Try taking them off sometimes. Cody Zeller can't rebound, can't draw fouls, can't convert point blank, is not a good foul shooter, can't shoot from range. He adds value in running the floor, setting screens and hustling. But the skill hasn't come along to match the athleticism and he looks like a bandaid at a position that needs something more, not named Al.

[yosemiteben]

So Cody can't rebound, can't convert, can't draw fouls, can't shoot from range. what can he do? Why did they draft this POS? Makes my blood boil.

You haven't been watching us much recently, have you?

His stats in the month of February - 25 mpg, 10 points, 7 boards, 10% ORB% (leads team), 21% DRB% (third on team), 55% FG, 61% TS%, 113 ORTG, 98 DRTG (highest net rating among rotation players)

The dude is a garbage collector.

Defense is a pretty important part of the game of basketball. He's our best interior defender, and one of the few centers with the lateral quickness and awareness to be effective at closing out on the perimeter.

Over the last month his TS% is second highest on the team. He's our best offensive rebounder. He's arguably our second best overall defender behind Marv. He has our highest net rating.

It takes skill to be able to have those things be true.

[Kswiss]

You haven't been watching us much recently, have you?

His stats in the month of February - 25 mpg, 10 points, 7 boards, 10% ORB% (leads team), 21% DRB% (third on team), 55% FG, 61% TS%, 113 ORTG, 98 DRTG (highest net rating among rotation players)

The dude is a garbage collector.

Defense is a pretty important part of the game of basketball. He's our best interior defender, and one of the few centers with the lateral quickness and awareness to be effective at closing out on the perimeter.

Over the last month his TS% is second highest on the team. He's our best offensive rebounder. He's arguably our second best overall defender behind Marv. He has our highest net rating.

It takes skill to be able to have those things be true.

Our second best defender??? This dude is awful for a center. He can't rebound can't block shots, gets beasted on constantly for offensive rebounds and put backs, can't jump high enough to disrupt alley-oops. All centers have high fg% since all he shoots is open layups and dunks. Even so, he misses a shocking number of them. I can't believe you think he has a place in the NBA, let alone one of our better players

[JDR720]

he is a below average starting center, would be a solid backup though.

cody's ranks among qualified centers per 48 minutes
points- 27th
rebounds-37th
FG% (not qualified) but would be around 10th (of 18 qualified)
FT%- 12th
assists- 33rd
steals-12th
blocks-37th
double doubles-37th (3 total)

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

The dude is a garbage collector.

Defense is a pretty important part of the game of basketball. He's our best interior defender, and one of the few centers with the lateral quickness and awareness to be effective at closing out on the perimeter.

Over the last month his TS% is second highest on the team. He's our best offensive rebounder. He's arguably our second best overall defender behind Marv. He has our highest net rating.

It takes skill to be able to have those things be true.

Our second best defender??? This dude is awful for a center. He can't rebound can't block shots, gets beasted on constantly for offensive rebounds and put backs, can't jump high enough to disrupt alley-oops. All centers have high fg% since all he shoots is open layups and dunks. Even so, he misses a shocking number of them. I can't believe you think he has a place in the NBA, let alone one of our better players

I find it interesting that folks keep ignoring how Cody boxes out his man for rebounds ... enabling the guards to get them. People want to see the gaudy individual numbers and ignore the team play. I don't think that Cody is a top 15 center at this point, but he's far from bad and absolutely has a place in the NBA.

[LamarMatic7]

Two best defensive performances I've seen vs us this year have been by the Hawks, 2nd game of season and this one. They completely smothered us from the start. I don't think I saw us take an open shot until about midway thru 2nd quarter. We weren't ready, were ice cold and they played some kick ass defense early and late. By the time we started getting some open looks guys had no confidence as evidenced by the many missed layups and missed FTs.

Hard to even have a shot at winning with both Kemba and Batum shoot so horribly, but again, some credit has to go to Atlanta for taking us out of everything.

Sweet block by Lin. That was fun. That was probably the only thing I liked about the game.

And as bad as we played, we were still only down 2 in the 4th, on the last game of a 5 game road trip vs a good team. Credit to the team for fighting back, twice.

Huh.. funny that you also called it them "smothering" us.

http://www.atthehive.com/2016/2/29/11132072/charlotte-hornets-76-atlanta-hawks-87-notes-and-observations

I agree. They keep matching up against us so well.

In these sorts of situations I always get the image that certain people around the league just think nothing of us. It's like Bud and his coaching staff taking huge delight in figuring the previous day that they have the lolwy Hornets figured out and have no need for a new game plan.

[Kswiss]

Defense is a pretty important part of the game of basketball. He's our best interior defender, and one of the few centers with the lateral quickness and awareness to be effective at closing out on the perimeter.

Over the last month his TS% is second highest on the team. He's our best offensive rebounder. He's arguably our second best overall defender behind Marv. He has our highest net rating.

It takes skill to be able to have those things be true.

Our second best defender??? This dude is awful for a center. He can't rebound can't block shots, gets beasted on constantly for offensive rebounds and put backs, can't jump high enough to disrupt alley-oops. All centers have high fg% since all he shoots is open layups and dunks. Even so, he misses a shocking number of them. I can't believe you think he has a place in the NBA, let alone one of our better players

I find it interesting that folks keep ignoring how Cody boxes out his man for rebounds ... enabling the guards to get them. People want to see the gaudy individual numbers and ignore the team play. I don't think that Cody is a top 15 center at this point, but he's far from bad and absolutely has a place in the NBA.

Name a center or backup center that he is better than, I can't even think of many third stringers he's better than. I don't think he's better than Robert Sacre and yes I am serious.

[fatlever]

Our second best defender??? This dude is awful for a center. He can't rebound can't block shots, gets beasted on constantly for offensive rebounds and put backs, can't jump high enough to disrupt alley-oops. All centers have high fg% since all he shoots is open layups and dunks. Even so, he misses a shocking number of them. I can't believe you think he has a place in the NBA, let alone one of our better players

I find it interesting that folks keep ignoring how Cody boxes out his man for rebounds ... enabling the guards to get them. People want to see the gaudy individual numbers and ignore the team play. I don't think that Cody is a top 15 center at this point, but he's far from bad and absolutely has a place in the NBA.

Name a center or backup center that he is better than, I can't even think of many third stringers he's better than. I don't think he's better than Robert Sacre and yes I am serious.

Don't be silly. Everyone can't ignore Cody's great games and only focus on his bad games. There seems to be a lack of middle-ground when it comes to Cody bashing by some of the people who don't like him. Everything when them is Cody negatives to the extreme, which then makes it hard to value that opinion.

[fatlever]

seems like it might be time to take some Cody talk to his thread. Gonna dig it up and maybe post some thoughts over there if I get a chance.

[Snidely FC]

Two best defensive performances I've seen vs us this year have been by the Hawks, 2nd game of season and this one. They completely smothered us from the start. I don't think I saw us take an open shot until about midway thru 2nd quarter. We weren't ready, were ice cold and they played some kick ass defense early and late. By the time we started getting some open looks guys had no confidence as evidenced by the many missed layups and missed FTs.

Hard to even have a shot at winning with both Kemba and Batum shoot so horribly, but again, some credit has to go to Atlanta for taking us out of everything.

Sweet block by Lin. That was fun. That was probably the only thing I liked about the game.

And as bad as we played, we were still only down 2 in the 4th, on the last game of a 5 game road trip vs a good team. Credit to the team for fighting back, twice.

Huh.. funny that you also called it them "smothering" us.

http://www.atthehive.com/2016/2/29/11132072/charlotte-hornets-76-atlanta-hawks-87-notes-and-observations

I agree. They keep matching up against us so well.

In these sorts of situations I always get the image that certain people around the league just think nothing of us. It's like Bud and his coaching staff taking huge delight in figuring the previous day that they have the lolwy Hornets figured out and have no need for a new game plan.

As usual, enjoyed your take. Wanted to let you know that the email notice i received and your blog post headline show as Hornets vs. Heat, not Hawks. https://lamarmatic.com/2016/02/29/hornets-76-heat-87-notes-and-observations/

[yosemiteben]

seems like it might be time to take some Cody talk to his thread. Gonna dig it up and maybe post some thoughts over there if I get a chance.

Yeah, my fault, shouldn't have stayed in the GT as long as it did.

[LamarMatic7]

Two best defensive performances I've seen vs us this year have been by the Hawks, 2nd game of season and this one. They completely smothered us from the start. I don't think I saw us take an open shot until about midway thru 2nd quarter. We weren't ready, were ice cold and they played some kick ass defense early and late. By the time we started getting some open looks guys had no confidence as evidenced by the many missed layups and missed FTs.

Hard to even have a shot at winning with both Kemba and Batum shoot so horribly, but again, some credit has to go to Atlanta for taking us out of everything.

Sweet block by Lin. That was fun. That was probably the only thing I liked about the game.

And as bad as we played, we were still only down 2 in the 4th, on the last game of a 5 game road trip vs a good team. Credit to the team for fighting back, twice.

Huh.. funny that you also called it them "smothering" us.

http://www.atthehive.com/2016/2/29/11132072/charlotte-hornets-76-atlanta-hawks-87-notes-and-observations

I agree. They keep matching up against us so well.

In these sorts of situations I always get the image that certain people around the league just think nothing of us. It's like Bud and his coaching staff taking huge delight in figuring the previous day that they have the lolwy Hornets figured out and have no need for a new game plan.

As usual, enjoyed your take. Wanted to let you know that the email notice i received and your blog post headline show as Hornets vs. Heat, not Hawks. https://lamarmatic.com/2016/02/29/hornets-76-heat-87-notes-and-observations/

Thanks! Corrected it.