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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#381 » by will34 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:15 pm

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:The Cavs. Why would Kyrie be on the block for Melo?

Screamin A Smiff reported today Kyrie isn't happy in Cleveland

Word?? How come?


Not the first time I've heard it...I don't think he enjoys playing with Lebron.
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#382 » by DaGawd » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:19 pm

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DaGawd wrote:Screamin A Smiff reported today Kyrie isn't happy in Cleveland

Word?? How come?


Not the first time I've heard it...I don't think he enjoys playing with Lebron.

Yeah this.
He and Lebron have had some run ins about Kyrie needing to pass more in the past. Wouldn't shock me if he just isn't a fan of playing along side Lebron. Hell even before Lebron came there were already rumblings Kyrie wanted out of Cleveland and wasn't gonna re - sign even tho he ended up signing a new deal after the fact
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#383 » by JXL » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:20 pm

Kyrie has what I call the Monta Ellis ego (pre-Dallas version). He believes he should get all the touches to help a team win, when all it does is only make him look good.
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#384 » by Context » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:21 pm

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:What I want to know is...does Dolan expect Phil to bring a chip here in these 5 years, or did he finally realize that this organization was headed in the wrong direction and just brought Phil in to stabilize it? Dudes forget that there was a protest ready to be held outside of MSG the day Phil was hired, but the hiring of Phil gave the fans some hope


Excellent question to ask yourself regardless of what you think the answer is...
the knick air is so clouded- I feel lost and when you're lost- its hard to correctly assess things...
I have to believe that Dolan knows this has to be rebuilt. Even if Dolan hasn't educated himself on basketball to this point. He has to have
a team around him that's broken the current landscape to him. As far as what Phil was brought in for- whatever it is- his legacy is attached to it or his name... Phil can't leave this organization worse off then when he got here. I'm still speculating that we are in some type
of rebuild that Dolan and Phil are aware of.



If that was the case then why fire Fish, not buying this whole Phil is secretly doing a rebuild.....all his signings point the other direction.

lets talk about the signing...which signings in particular are you talking about?
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#385 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:22 pm

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Word?? How come?


Not the first time I've heard it...I don't think he enjoys playing with Lebron.

Yeah this.
He and Lebron have had some run ins about Kyrie needing to pass more in the past. Wouldn't shock me if he just isn't a fan of playing along side Lebron. Hell even before Lebron came there were already rumblings Kyrie wanted out of Cleveland and wasn't gonna re - sign even tho he ended up signing a new deal after the fact

Well damn. I don't see a Melo for Kyrie deal ever happening...what would Cleveland do with Love? Kyrie in NY would be ridiculous tho...praise be to Phil if he pulled it off
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#386 » by will34 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:22 pm

DaGawd wrote:
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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Word?? How come?


Not the first time I've heard it...I don't think he enjoys playing with Lebron.

Yeah this.
He and Lebron have had some run ins about Kyrie needing to pass more in the past. Wouldn't shock me if he just isn't a fan of playing along side Lebron. Hell even before Lebron came there were already rumblings Kyrie wanted out of Cleveland and wasn't gonna re - sign even tho he ended up signing a new deal after the fact


Friend of mine is boys with Kyrie from HS but shhhh you didn't hear that.
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#387 » by K_ick_God » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:22 pm

No to Kyrie. He is not tough and not really good.
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Post#388 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:23 pm

JXL wrote:Kyrie has what I call the Monta Ellis ego (pre-Dallas version). He believes he should get all the touches to help a team win, when all it does is only make him look good.

You can't deny his talent tho
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Post#389 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:25 pm

KnicksGod wrote:No to Kyrie. He is not tough and not really good.

Huh?
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Post#390 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:26 pm

My only problem with Kyrie is his defense and that he's not a true PG
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Post#391 » by NY2TheBay » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:28 pm

So Kyrie not happy supposedly, love has been disgruntled, Lebron better get with it before the wheels fall off. TT is one of the most overpaid players in the league to top it off. They wont be able to move that contract anytime soon.
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Post#392 » by MR IB4TL » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:30 pm

They should play Jimmer. For God's sake, play this kid.
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Post#393 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:31 pm

Maybe swap around some players or picks but here's a crazy idea

NY Trades: Melo and Robin Lopez
NY Receives Kyrie Irving and Amir Johnson

Clev trades: Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving
Clev Receives: Robin Lopez, Carmelo Anthony, Avery Bradley

Boston Trades: Avery Bradley, Amir Johnson
Boston Receives: Kevin Love
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#394 » by AmazingJason » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:31 pm

NY2TheBay wrote:So Kyrie not happy supposedly, love has been disgruntled, Lebron better get with it before the wheels fall off. TT is one of the most overpaid players in the league to top it off. They wont be able to move that contract anytime soon.


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Post#395 » by K_ick_God » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:31 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:My only problem with Kyrie is his defense and that he's not a true PG


What about the fact that he is hurt often and a low-key, low-energy player? Or the fact that reportedly he doesn't want to play with LeBron? What really good player would not want to play with LeBron? These are all bad signs, especially for him to play and thrive in NYC.

Full, hard pass.

Steph Curry has become what Kyrie was supposed to but never will be.
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#396 » by Triple C » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:32 pm

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Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Melo for kyrie??. Who says no??

The Cavs. Why would Kyrie be on the block for Melo?


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Post#397 » by Knicks93 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:35 pm

We don't have any assets for Kyrie trade. They wouldn't take Melo for Kyrie, what would they do with Love? Not too mention also Kyrie is 10 years younger than Melo, with good knees, and probably more talented at the current stage of their careers. When we start talking about 2020 free agents, I'd love to have Kyrie here though lol.
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Re: PG Thread: We Suck 

Post#398 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:35 pm

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:My only problem with Kyrie is his defense and that he's not a true PG


What about the fact that he is hurt often and a low-key, low-energy player? Or the fact that reportedly he doesn't want to play with LeBron? What really good player would not want to play with LeBron? These are all bad signs, especially for him to play and thrive in NYC.

Full, hard pass.

Steph Curry has become what Kyrie was supposed to but never will be.

Those are some legit concerns. Me personally, I'd like to see Kyrie in NY, but I understand if u wouldn't
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Post#400 » by Sark » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:51 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maybe swap around some players or picks but here's a crazy idea

NY Trades: Melo and Robin Lopez
NY Receives Kyrie Irving and Amir Johnson

Clev trades: Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving
Clev Receives: Robin Lopez, Carmelo Anthony, Avery Bradley

Boston Trades: Avery Bradley, Amir Johnson
Boston Receives: Kevin Love


I like that trade. A little pain and a little pleasure for everyone. How it should be.

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