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Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET

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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#401 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:09 pm

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queridiculo wrote:To borrow from tennis, much like the game against the Pistons, this is a big point, gotta have it.

Guys not named Beal and Wall have to step it up.


Not to disagree too much, the whole team has to step up. But Wall is the key.
The zards need him to be the best player on the floor and to exert his will.
If he does that, we can certainly win. If he doesn't do that, it becomes much harder.


Come on John. What are you doing gambling on defense so much?
That was also how Dragic stole your lunch in our last loss.
That was a critical loss, especially given they were without so many key players.

If this is our intended scheme, please file my comments appropriately in the garbage.
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#402 » by AFM » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:13 pm

Ole ole! That there matador defense!
Let him go by and poke it out from behind. Very appropriate at your local YMCA.
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#403 » by dlts20 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:13 pm

I still think we will go on a big run soon. We are finally getting healthy, Morris should now start, and Beal just played 34min in the 2nd night of a b2b so his minutes should be on a 30-35min restriction the rest of the regular season so he should also start the rest of the way. If all of that is true then it will come down to Wall and even though he is starting to shoot like he did in November, has been iffy at best on D all year, and is seemingly talking about and worrying about some of the wrong things, I still bet on him to flip the switch and right the ship. Individually when him and Beal are locked in, they are as mentally tough and competitive as anyone in the league. Now add Morris and Anderson's mentality to that and I think a big run is coming and no one will want to see us come playoff time
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#404 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:14 pm

deneem4 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
deneem4 wrote:We should've threw Eddie or oubre in and told them to go at McDermott...


Really? Jarell Eddie is going to abuse somebody off the dribble? And Oubre is so left-handed, he's easy to defend during real time (not garbage time).


McDermott is going to abuse someone off the dribble? With a dunk!!
He's jus a shooter and is easy to defend during real time...


Wall left him to freelance.
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#405 » by CobraCommander » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:15 pm

If the Bulls rolled the squad they put on floor against the Wizards every night, how many games could they win in 82? 15?
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#406 » by Dark Faze » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:29 pm

i thought we'd go on a run but i dont think so anymore

guys didn't look tired and we were incredibly deep last night but still lost to a team without starters

we're simply not good
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#407 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:40 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:I know emotions are high right now, but lets try to be a little more down to earth right now. ?
I feel like Hickson should play more than Dudley at PF. Should Dudley play yes! at PF not so much I fear.
We have athletic bigs now. Play them. Give Hickson some burn.
Wall/sessions/
Beal/Anderson/Temple/Eddie
Porter/Dudley/Kelly
Morris/Hickson/Dudley
Gortat/NENE/Hickson
That should be roughly how the team should be played going forward. Beal obviously have a restriction so Anderson and temple can split minutes with beal. Dudley can pick up some 4 in spot line ups when the match ups are right. but you need to play the match ups. Right now he is probably better off coming off the bench and even if you want to not play hickson bring dudley off the bench behind Morris. But I feel like Hicksons skill set will help off the bench for 15 minutes a game or so. Something needs to change, mainly the line ups and offence. Witt needs to do something different, that was a winnable game, and we blew it because he could not adjust.

I would say that team could go .500 the rest of the way.



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Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#408 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:01 pm

TGW wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:decent chance of a losing streak in the next few games as well--talking about this stretch:

@ Cavs
Pacers (B2B)
@ Blazers
@ Jazz
@ Nuggets (B2B)
Pistons
Bulls

no path to the playoffs there


we need to go 0-7 here. that's the nail in the coffin for grunfailed and we keep our pick


I am fully on-board for pulling the hammer and nail out, but you know EG is a master pol and manipulator who knows how to manage his owner. EG will play the injury card to save himself.
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#409 » by queridiculo » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:18 pm

The goal for the Wizards should be to finish no better than 9th worst, ironically they're just as unlikely to achieve that as they are to reaching the playoffs.


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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#410 » by deneem4 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:59 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Considering u want to put your best defense in as well...u don't have many options...

We used to have good D, what happened?
deneem4 wrote:We have always sucked as a man to man team on defense

For the last two years, we were a top rated D - what changed?
deneem4 wrote:Wall/Beal/Oubre/Porter/Morris

Don't see that as even a .500 team. Certainly not enough to get us in the playoffs, no?


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Our sf position
Ariza/ Pierce and nene starting with gortat
I never seen those guys on the floor together so how do you know how it will go???
We have had sucess with porter/Pierce and Gooden...
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#411 » by dckingsfan » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:05 pm

deneem4 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Considering u want to put your best defense in as well...u don't have many options...

We used to have good D, what happened?
deneem4 wrote:We have always sucked as a man to man team on defense

For the last two years, we were a top rated D - what changed?
deneem4 wrote:Wall/Beal/Oubre/Porter/Morris

Don't see that as even a .500 team. Certainly not enough to get us in the playoffs, no?


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Our sf position
Ariza/ Pierce and nene starting with gortat
I never seen those guys on the floor together so how do you know how it will go???
We have had sucess with porter/Pierce and Gooden...

So, do you think we can get back to being a good defensive team with Beal/Oubre/Porter? This year?
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#412 » by queridiculo » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:23 pm

dobrojim wrote:If this is our intended scheme, please file my comments appropriately in the garbage.
Or refer them to Randy.


I've been harping on this forever, the Wizards pick and roll defense is a disaster, Wall, maybe because of his reputation as a good defender, is basically asked to fight through the screens without getting any help from the bigs.

He ends up in trail position quite a bit as a result, something that may invite him to do his stupid reach in from behind, that works like 20% of the time all the time.

You can defend the pick and roll that way, but your communication has to be on top and if you don't react quickly enough you're already beat. Communication on defense seems to be non-existent, don't hear much of it during the games, but that might just be a function of how much game noise the broadcasts actually pick up.

Schematically I don't like what Washington is doing, and when you have absurd mismatches to boot, it becomes tough to play defense.

Gortat on Gasol, disaster, Dudley on Gibson, terrible, Washington never bothered to make any adjustments of consequence to those match ups and it cost them dearly.
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#413 » by deneem4 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:51 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
deneem4 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:We used to have good D, what happened?

For the last two years, we were a top rated D - what changed?

Don't see that as even a .500 team. Certainly not enough to get us in the playoffs, no?


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Our sf position
Ariza/ Pierce and nene starting with gortat
I never seen those guys on the floor together so how do you know how it will go???
We have had sucess with porter/Pierce and Gooden...

So, do you think we can get back to being a good defensive team with Beal/Oubre/Porter? This year?


Yes...oubre and beal are faster than temple and porter on the wings...
when wall gambles they can react faster...
if we play Dudley at the 4 why not porter??
Dudley gives up points regardless he doesn't rebound nor is he fast enough in the lanes...

Oubre and porter are both better defenders and rebounders than Dudley...stats show it and eye test shows it even more...it's a reason golden state gave up on lee and let Barnes and green play...
Our guys may not be that caliber right now but they're young and deserves the chance...
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#414 » by dckingsfan » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:11 am

I don't know - I think that Oubre is not a very good defender right now. He might become a good defender - but I just don't see that lineup working.
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Re: Wizards vs. Bulls GT: 2/24 @ 8 PM ET 

Post#415 » by krii » Tue Mar 1, 2016 12:16 pm

nate33 wrote:
Spoiler:
krii wrote:Guys ... I know it was harsh loss but they just played 5 games in 7 nights. They won 3 and loss 2, .660%. From outside it was "lack of effort" but I would say it was more schedule - trip to Miami, Chicago + 3 games at home. They will play 8 games in 11 days (3 more to go with only one two-days break). If they end up with 5-3 record with this crazy schedule everything could be fine!

What I think is that by the end of February Wizards should be 28-31. IMO they can finish March with 10-6 (= 38 - 37, .506%) and April with 5-2 or 4-3 (I bet the game with Detroit will be the most important during that stretch). By the end of the season they could be 43-39, .524% and 8th or 7th in the conference.

Fair point about the 5 in 7 (though 3-2 is a .600 win percentage, not .660).
Spoiler:
Nevertheless, the Wizards bet on the "easy schedule" being the reason they could make up ground in the East. Well, they haven't made up any ground and have, in fact, lost ground to Chicago.

Chicago and Miami are now beyond reach. Charlotte is probably out of reach as well since Washington don't have the tiebreaker and they only play them one more time. The Wizards are now desperately clinging to a hope of reaching the 8th seed instead of the 7th. And the only reason they have a shot at all is because they play Detroit 2 more times and Atlanta 3 more times. If they can win all of those games, they could still be in it.

I'm not holding my breath.


Yeah, that's my bad - it should have been .600.

payitforward wrote:
Spoiler:
krii wrote:Guys ... I know it was harsh loss but they just played 5 games in 7 nights. They won 3 and loss 2, .660%. From outside it was "lack of effort" but I would say it was more schedule - trip to Miami, Chicago + 3 games at home. They will play 8 games in 11 days (3 more to go with only one two-days break). If they end up with 5-3 record with this crazy schedule everything could be fine!

What I think is that by the end of February Wizards should be 28-31. IMO they can finish March with 10-6 (= 38 - 37, .506%) and April with 5-2 or 4-3 (I bet the game with Detroit will be the most important during that stretch). By the end of the season they could be 43-39, .524% and 8th or 7th in the conference.

Your first point -- 5 games in 7 nights -- is certainly right; goes a long way to explaining why they fell apart last night.

As to expecting them to go 16-10 or 17-9 from here on out... you are dreaming amigo!


I believe that there is more power in this team than it is perceived by supporters. Maybe they will not win as much as I (optimistically) assume but from now on they would need to win 13 games to be 16-10 as in my first post.

so they play: Wolves, Cavaliers, Pacers, Blazers, Jazz, Nuggets, Pistons, Bulls, 76ers, Knicks, Atlanta, Atlanta, Wolves, LAL, GSW, SAC, PHX, LAC, Nets, Pistons, Hornets, Nets, Atlanta.

I bolded games that I feel they can win.

I think out of Cavs, Pacers, Blazers and 3xAtlanta they have chance to win Atlanta once, then Minnesota (x2), Jazz, Nuggets, Pistons (x2), 76ers, Knicks, PHX, Nets (x2) and LAL. Some of them looks winnable during this stretch, don't you think?
And I'm pretty sure they will lose one of those 'easy' games (such as Wolves/Knicks) but win with Pacers or Blazers or Atlanta. I just feel they can finish with 13-10 run from now on. Optimistic or not - it's better to at least try to believe:)

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