PG: Nobody likes Black Santa Claus

[Mr_Perfect]

This is worse. The Jackson era has already resulted in the worst record in franchise history and there's never been this much negativity and doom and gloom in the garden and fans there...ever.

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Worse? Not even close. We never had anyone the caliber of Porzingis since Ewing. So this is far from worse.

Yes, this is worse. You can create videos about anything to make it seem like it's worse. I'm sure someone will be coming up with a Phil Jackson tribute soon.

Like I said, we have Porzingis. We never had anyone of that caliber under Isiah.

But keep over-exaggerating to prove a point.

We know the Knicks suck - they've sucked for a long time under Dolan.

At least will leave us with Kristaps when it is all said and done.

[moocow007]

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Even Breen's had enough of this

I wonder why he doesn't play...

You know it's bad when you yearn for Jason Smith and think that maybe Lou Amundson could be the antidote for this type of stupid play.

[Red Vines]

Pretty sure we'll see major changes next game. Dolan clearly seen enough.

[moocow007]

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Worse? Not even close. We never had anyone the caliber of Porzingis since Ewing. So this is far from worse.

Yes, this is worse. You can create videos about anything to make it seem like it's worse. I'm sure someone will be coming up with a Phil Jackson tribute soon.

Like I said, we have Porzingis. We never had anyone of that caliber under Isiah.

But keep over-exaggerating to prove a point.

We know the Knicks suck - they've sucked for a long time under Dolan.

At least will leave us with Kristaps when it is all said and done.

Am I over exaggerating last season? Am I watching a different team than you have been watching the last 20 games? What part of "worst season ever" are you missing? What part of "fans have never been like this, ever, in the Garden" are you not willing to see? And at this rate Porzingis will blow out his knees trying to do things to compensate for the sheer and utter lack of any talent (besides Anthony) around him?

[Isiahthomass]

sums up knicks night

And while this season has headed south, this is no way as bad as the Isiah era. At least we have some hope in the form of cap space, future 1st rounders, and KP.

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

Great loss today guys, keep them coming. On the road to Thibodeau!!!!!!!!

[Capn'O]

Only thing worst then the Knicks is politics... Hillary and Trump iare really the best candidates?. World is a mad mad place

I feel you. Rough night.

Dem race is far from over. Many of Clinton's predicted strong states came tonight. Republican race, I'm afraid, is over.

[Yodi2007]

i dont see how melo wants to come back to this dumpster fire next year

Fatboy has no choice but to like it! Too many teams wont take him or his large contract! He's regressing @ the wrong age!

[moocow007]

Great loss today guys, keep them coming. On the road to Thibodeau!!!!!!!!

With Jackson in charge, unless Dolan talks him out of it (and let's be honest, Dolan can't talk himself out of a contest with a mime), we're likely talking on the road to Shaw.

[Capn'O]

Phil gave Melo the ntc to lock him into a salary that's going to look good when the cap goes up and now he's hoping the team will be so bad and the environment so embarrassing that Melo will have no other option but to waive his no trade clause which is when Phil will trade him for two top draft picks.. One in next year's draft and one the year after giving the Knicks 3 lottery picks to add to Porzingis and Grant???

Do you believe this or are you just playing with the idea? It has been in the back of my mind for a minute now. This summer will be interesting, for sure. Will Dolan stand for it?

[moocow007]

Phil gave Melo the ntc to lock him into a salary that's going to look good when the cap goes up and now he's hoping the team will be so bad and the environment so embarrassing that Melo will have no other option but to waive his no trade clause which is when Phil will trade him for two top draft picks.. One in next year's draft and one the year after giving the Knicks 3 lottery picks to add to Porzingis and Grant???

Do you believe this or are you just playing with the idea? It has been in the back of my mind for a minute now. This summer will be interesting, for sure. Will Dolan stand for it?

He doesn't believe it. He's on the Team Hoodwinked payroll. This would actually be counter that.

[Jay10]

If Dolan tells Phil who to hire, Phil will leave and his replacement will give up first round draft picks to impress Dolan.

[Mr_Perfect]

Yes, this is worse. You can create videos about anything to make it seem like it's worse. I'm sure someone will be coming up with a Phil Jackson tribute soon.

Like I said, we have Porzingis. We never had anyone of that caliber under Isiah.

But keep over-exaggerating to prove a point.

We know the Knicks suck - they've sucked for a long time under Dolan.

At least will leave us with Kristaps when it is all said and done.

Am I over exaggerating last season? Am I watching a different team than you have been watching the last 20 games? What part of "worst season ever" are you missing? What part of "fans have never been like this, ever, in the Garden" are you not willing to see? And at this rate Porzingis will blow out his knees trying to do things to compensate for the sheer and utter lack of any talent (besides Anthony) around him?

Why are you complaining about a season that allowed us to draft high in the lottery and take Porzingis?

Would you rather we finish with 30 wins and draft mediocrity in the 8th spot, as we did for years?

Last year was a complete tear-down of the roster. I don't think anyone expect to win anything past January. Most people were rooting to tank and win the lottery. Looks like our terrible play finally paid off for something, which is something you can't say for past years.

I know people expected bigger things this season. I know this bad taste is much more recent than Isiah and any other era. But let's not change history and let's not exaggerate what is really happening. The truth of the matter is that Phil sucks because he is married to the Triangle and committed to hiring mediocre to terrible coaches who coach the Triangle. If he opens his mind up - which is funny that he doesn't since he's a zen guy - and hires Thibodeau then he will be fine. If he doesn't then he should get out tomorrow. But I don't entrust Dolan, Mills and Isiah to righting the ship. I think history speaks for itself there.

[Isiahthomass]

Phil gave Melo the ntc to lock him into a salary that's going to look good when the cap goes up and now he's hoping the team will be so bad and the environment so embarrassing that Melo will have no other option but to waive his no trade clause which is when Phil will trade him for two top draft picks.. One in next year's draft and one the year after giving the Knicks 3 lottery picks to add to Porzingis and Grant???

Do you believe this or are you just playing with the idea? It has been in the back of my mind for a minute now. This summer will be interesting, for sure. Will Dolan stand for it?

Well Dolan could fire Phil and replace him with Mills in which case this idea goes down the crapper. I would agree though this almost does look like a giant staring contest between Phil and Melo.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

We have KP...there's no way that this worse than the Isaiah era

Y'all acting like it wouldn't be so par for the course for the Knicks to ruin his development or waste his talents.
I hope not but this organization doesn't inspire anything in the way of encouragement.

[will34]

We have KP...there's no way that this worse than the Isaiah era

Y'all acting like it wouldn't be so par for the course for the Knicks to ruin his development or waste his talents.
I hope not but this organization doesn't inspire anything in the way of encouragement.

KP is his own guy. He watches film constantly. Really devoted to the craft. Wants to be the best player he can be.

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

Great loss today guys, keep them coming. On the road to Thibodeau!!!!!!!!

With Jackson in charge, unless Dolan talks him out of it (and let's be honest, Dolan can't talk himself out of a contest with a mime), we're likely talking on the road to Shaw.

If we have More losses like tonight jackson won't be in charge(or at least won't be able to choose the coach).

On the road to Thibodeau!!!!!!

[Isiahthomass]

We have KP...there's no way that this worse than the Isaiah era

Y'all acting like it wouldn't be so par for the course for the Knicks to ruin his development or waste his talents.
I hope not but this organization doesn't inspire anything in the way of encouragement.

No they would trade KP, 2 future unprotected first rounders, and Melo for the rights to Kobe, Dirk, Tim Duncan or some other washed up vet instead. That is the organization we love to hate.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

We have KP...there's no way that this worse than the Isaiah era

Y'all acting like it wouldn't be so par for the course for the Knicks to ruin his development or waste his talents.
I hope not but this organization doesn't inspire anything in the way of encouragement.

KP is his own guy. He watches film constantly. Really devoted to the craft. Wants to be the best player he can be.

To quote Larry Brown "it ain't tennis"
Not KP I'm questioning. The team. The organization. Yeah.

[Knicksfan1992]

Just watched it on DVR. Rambis is clueless. Takes out melo for sasha with a minute and a half left in the 3rd and the Blazers promptly go on a 7-0 run to end the quarter and pretty much end the game. You can't make this chit up. Caldy reverted back to form. Galloway's confidence is shot for whatever reason although I actually think he played solid d tonight. Please just sign a pg thursday and start them immediately. I can't watch the same rotation anymore. Jose hurts my eyes. And I don't even want to talk about the guy that got his heart broken by Sharapova