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Re: Giannis' Development 

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Post#323 » by Flight 22 » Wed Mar 2, 2016 12:32 am

I read somewhere that his vertical is 40+in, any truth to this? To me that seems a bit far-fetched but then again he would rarely need to use even half of his maximum jumping ability for most dunks.
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Post#324 » by H2tObes » Wed Mar 2, 2016 12:35 am

Flight 22 wrote:I read somewhere that his vertical is 40+in, any truth to this? To me that seems a bit far-fetched but then again he would rarely need to use even half of his maximum jumping ability for most dunks.

He has grown quite a bit and gained a lot of weight since he was a draft prospect, his vertical could have decreased as he got bigger. He isn't a bad leaper at all, 40 inches? No
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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#325 » by bigkurty » Wed Mar 2, 2016 1:12 am

H2tObes wrote:
Flight 22 wrote:I read somewhere that his vertical is 40+in, any truth to this? To me that seems a bit far-fetched but then again he would rarely need to use even half of his maximum jumping ability for most dunks.

He has grown quite a bit and gained a lot of weight since he was a draft prospect, his vertical could have decreased as he got bigger. He isn't a bad leaper at all, 40 inches? No

Yeah I dont think it is 40" but his max vert reach of 12' 2" puts him way up there near the best all time results
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements.php?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=13

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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#326 » by emunney » Wed Mar 2, 2016 6:26 am

bigkurty wrote:
H2tObes wrote:
Flight 22 wrote:I read somewhere that his vertical is 40+in, any truth to this? To me that seems a bit far-fetched but then again he would rarely need to use even half of his maximum jumping ability for most dunks.

He has grown quite a bit and gained a lot of weight since he was a draft prospect, his vertical could have decreased as he got bigger. He isn't a bad leaper at all, 40 inches? No

Yeah I dont think it is 40" but his max vert reach of 12' 2" puts him way up there near the best all time results
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements.php?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=13

Ben Simmons is ridic btw


I'd expect Giannis' standing reach is somewhere around Durant's 9'2". For a guy his size, a 3 foot vertical is extraordinary and it shows.
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Post#327 » by HKPackFan » Wed Mar 2, 2016 6:43 am

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Post#329 » by skones » Wed Mar 2, 2016 2:24 pm

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Post#330 » by Prez » Wed Mar 2, 2016 2:32 pm

Think the possibility of him being a future superstar is really hitting him now. Really seems like he knows exactly what he needs to do this summer which is awesome. This GA with a jump shot and more refined ball handling is a max player.
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Post#331 » by breakchains » Wed Mar 2, 2016 2:39 pm

“He allows me to create, without any added pressure”

It’s the first time he has said this in front of the entire team. The ball in Giannis’s hands and we start our game in offense from there. This happened a few days ago.

The thing is, he did this in a way that didn’t add any pressure for me. He hasn’t said officially that Giannis is our point guard now. If he said that, a panic would be created and a lot of pressure would accumulate around myself.

The media would enter into the process of addressing this and analyzing the fact that coach Kidd made me a point guard. He never said that, from now on Giannis will be playing as a playmaker from the ‘1’ position.

He just said that the ball should go in Giannis’s hands when launching our possessions.

Anyone that has followed my constant hand-wringing regarding how Giannis wasn't being properly coached knows that this is what I had been saying Giannis particularly needed in order to be unlocked due to his deferential personality type and the heavy conscience he bears.

All the "stars will become stars" stuff is mostly true, but coaching can make a huge difference. See: Pop with Kawhi and now we are seeing it - at least for the time being - with Kidd/Giannis.

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Post#332 » by 3Diamantidis » Wed Mar 2, 2016 9:31 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2620950-top-5-nba-stars-at-each-position-kevin-durant-anthony-davis-hitting-strides/page/13

He ain't better than melo lol
Not yet. But he has an advantage, crucial for a guy of his age: He is fun to watch. That creates many followers.
If he continues like this for the rest of the season, that top5 recognition can become a reality.
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Post#333 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:49 pm

That's not for the whole season but for the last 1-2 months I think.
Giannis in the last 4 games where he started playing as a Point Forward is averaging almost a triple double which is mental but he has been consistently great in the last 21 games too.

Giannis in the last 21 games has

18p, 9.2 reb, 4.2 ast, 1.3stl, 1.5blk +1.3 on 57% TS and 22.1% usage.

Carmelo in the last 21 games has

21.3p, 8.7 reb, 5 ast, 0.8stl, 0.4 blk +0.1 on 51% TS and 29.3% usage.

If you also count Giannis overall much better defense compare to Carmelo then you can easily say that he is better than him in this period of time.
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Post#334 » by Magic Giannison » Thu Mar 3, 2016 3:43 am

tigerclan wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2620950-top-5-nba-stars-at-each-position-kevin-durant-anthony-davis-hitting-strides/page/13

He ain't better than melo lol
Not yet. But he has an advantage, crucial for a guy of his age: He is fun to watch. That creates many followers.
If he continues like this for the rest of the season, that top5 recognition can become a reality.

He is much better than melo. Giannis is not the first offensive choice for the bucks his usage is MILES lower and Giannis FG% is better than melos
Giannis is also much better passer and defender than melo.
So where exactly melo is better than Giannis ?
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Post#335 » by 3Diamantidis » Thu Mar 3, 2016 4:09 am

Magic Giannison wrote:
tigerclan wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2620950-top-5-nba-stars-at-each-position-kevin-durant-anthony-davis-hitting-strides/page/13

He ain't better than melo lol
Not yet. But he has an advantage, crucial for a guy of his age: He is fun to watch. That creates many followers.
If he continues like this for the rest of the season, that top5 recognition can become a reality.

He is much better than melo. Giannis is not the first offensive choice for the bucks his usage is MILES lower and Giannis FG% is better than melos
Giannis is also much better passer and defender than melo.
So where exactly melo is better than Giannis ?


Has giannis proven to be better passer than melo already?
Seriously? He will become better. At the moment he ain't. If melo runs the offense of NY(and not jose) his assists will also rise.
Melo is a clutch player.
Have you seen giannis taking the last shot? No. Why? Because he ain't ready yet. That's why.
Offensively he will never become like melo but ....guess.
Nobody on the league had the skills of melo(maybe durant). Not even lebron.
Yes he is better defender than melo. Overall, he ain't better. Yet.

Also, keep in mind that on that list Gordon Hayward is also missing. Great player as well. And constantly underestimated.
The proof of giannis rising though, is that he reached a point in which you can compare him with players of this caliber without fear.
Tonight he had 22/6/3/1/1(2TOs)against Paul George who ended up with 15/10/5/1(7 TOs).
He did well against a great player. .....And i am not impressed.
10 days ago a statline like the above, was great.
Not anymore.
Nothing more needs to be said. :wink:
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Post#336 » by Prince12 » Thu Mar 3, 2016 4:13 am

He may be a more influential player then melo in the future, I predict he will be. All round game im talking but he will just never have the offensive arsenal that Melo has, that's more likely to be Jabari, we hope.
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Post#337 » by theFireBlanket » Thu Mar 3, 2016 4:28 am

Melo is garbage, an adversary that Giannis crushes every time around. ;)

As for a *scoring arsenal that matches him, we haven't seen what Giannis has in store after a summer of shooting 1,500 shots a day yet.

His play-making & present scoring capability already separates him as an all around off. player from present day Carmelo.
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Post#338 » by Prez » Thu Mar 3, 2016 4:34 am

Melo for all his scoring arsenal is putting up 21.5 on 18 shots a night on a team where he could literally crap on the coach's face and he'd get off with a warning. Giannis with that much freedom all season and 18 shots a night is easily getting you 20-22+ a night. And that's not even counting everything else he brings to the table.
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Post#340 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Mar 3, 2016 2:45 pm

Has anyone noticed that the release on his jumper (at least off the dribble) has been much quicker in the last few games? It seems like someone told him to speed up his motion and get more arc on his shot. Positive development.

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