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Oladipo or Fournier

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Should the Magic retain Oladipo or Fournier?

Oladipo
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67%
Fournier
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33%
 
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Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#121 » by pepe1991 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:34 am

eyriq wrote:For me it is Oladipo. He is the far superior athlete and ball handler, just overall more productive with a larger impact on the game. I'd also argue that should Oladipo play the complimentary role on offense that Fournier does he'd be just as efficient too. It is easily Oladipo.



Ball handler? Oladipo is sooo sloppy with a ball...
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Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#122 » by MagicStarwipe » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:58 pm

cedric76 wrote:Elf need to work on his 3pt shot this summer


Sure, but he's currently shooting 36% from 3 on 1.3 attempts. If he can simply keep that percentage on slightly more volume then that's fine for the type of player he is. If anything needs to improve it's his off the dribble jumper from mid range and his FT%. And if he's going to be the future at PG then the offense needs to be opened up to him more so he can probe, create and attack more, which are the strengths of his game. Anybody expecting him to turn in to a Lillard type shooter will never be satisfied with him because that's not the type of player or PG he is.
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Re: RE: Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#123 » by cedric76 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:51 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Elf need to work on his 3pt shot this summer


Sure, but he's currently shooting 36% from 3 on 1.3 attempts. If he can simply keep that percentage on slightly more volume then that's fine for the type of player he is. If anything needs to improve it's his off the dribble jumper from mid range and his FT%. And if he's going to be the future at PG then the offense needs to be opened up to him more so he can probe, create and attack more, which are the strengths of his game. Anybody expecting him to turn in to a Lillard type shooter will never be satisfied with him because that's not the type of player or PG he is.

That's a % for wide open shots, once he improves his 3pt shots, teams won't leave him open anymore so his % will drop.
This is a reason why I don't like when people through numbers and don't watch games.
Magic star wipe, the above statement isn't for you, I m just talking in general
I agree with you his 3pt shot is getting better

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Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#124 » by fklt » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:52 pm

Fournier is the most unnecessarily hated player on the team.
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Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#125 » by pepe1991 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:05 pm

fklt wrote:Fournier is the most unnecessarily hated player on the team.



Nobody hates him, but he is like 4th to 5th offensive option on contending team asked to do too much who will get payed like he is some sort of second tear superstar because all teams have lot of money and there is no enough good players for all of them.
Also he is only good at scoring, and gives you nothing much else really, 2,8 apg and rpg is below average for SF and SG position.
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Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#126 » by monchief » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:26 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
fklt wrote:Fournier is the most unnecessarily hated player on the team.



Nobody hates him, but he is like 4th to 5th offensive option on contending team asked to do too much who will get payed like he is some sort of second tear superstar because all teams have lot of money and there is no enough good players for all of them.
Also he is only good at scoring, and gives you nothing much else really, 2,8 apg and rpg is below average for SF and SG position.


The difference is, he has been executing more consistently than anyone else on the team as the guy being asked to do too much. You can't say that about many other guys on our team. On top of that, he's been busting his ass against guys like KD, Leonard, George, Melo, etc. Sure he's not a defensive stopper, but he's putting in the effort on both ends while playing out of position.

Oladipo also played about 2 months as our backup PG before Jennings/Watson were back. His assist numbers are going to be higher because he was asked to be in that role.

Are we really going to use a 2 rebound difference between two guards as a factor of who is better? That's like using 3pt shooting to compare Vuc and Jason Smith...
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Re: Oladipo or Fournier 

Post#127 » by Hrco » Wed Mar 2, 2016 7:28 pm

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