2016 Draft

[Kerrsed]

Ok, at this point, if we do end up with the 3rd pick and Simmons/Ingram are off the board, i would go with Jaylen Brown.

With the Wiz pick, i have my eyes on Rabb. I would still consider us winners if we miss out on the top 2, but walk away with the Cali Connection.

Bledsoe/Booker/Brown/Rabb/Len

[Saberestar]

^^
I would be happy with those two, huge upside there.

[No-Man]

I would be extremely surprised if Rabb falls out of the top10.

[Saberestar]

I would be extremely surprised if Rabb falls out of the top10.

I agree. I see him like a great rebounder/defender with high motor ala Tristan Thompson...probably even better in his prime if he develops a good mid range game.

[No-Man]

I would be extremely surprised if Rabb falls out of the top10.

I agree. I see him like a great rebounder/defender with high motor ala Tristan Thompson...probably even better in his prime if he develops a good mid range game.

He is a big with both a post game and a face-up game, he is just not playing for a team that plays to his strengths, Cuonzo Martin kills their spacing playing 2 bigs out there all the time, with two other guys, Brown and Wallace who cant shoot a lick at this point.
Rabb coming out of HS remembered me of JO'Neal because of his offensive skilled, he is really good and is been underrated.

[Saberestar]

I would be extremely surprised if Rabb falls out of the top10.

I agree. I see him like a great rebounder/defender with high motor ala Tristan Thompson...probably even better in his prime if he develops a good mid range game.

He is a big with both a post game and a face-up game, he is just not playing for a team that plays to his strengths, Cuonzo Martin kills their spacing playing 2 bigs out there all the time, with two other guys, Brown and Wallace who cant shoot a lick at this point.
Rabb coming out of HS remembered me of JO'Neal because of his offensive skilled, he is really good and is been underrated.

If we can grab him with the Wizards pick he would be the steal of the draft. Hopefully he falls to us.

[jcsunsfan]

This Simmons vs Rabb video is fascinating. Rabb holds his own. Simmons ability to grab a rebound and hit the floor running, and then to run the point on the break is really intriguing. As a PF, he would actually help the team to run. Imagine Simmons leading the break with Warren, Bledsoe, and Booker flying in from the wings.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqMGRfKd9Q[/youtube]

[Kerrsed]

I would be extremely surprised if Rabb falls out of the top10.

The site i find the most credible with their mocks are Draftexpress.com. When it comes to the draft, the have the most background info, stats, best player breakdown videos, etc.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ8qfgtH1lQ[/youtube]
I love the defense that they highlight of Brown on Simmons/Ingram. The way he attacks the rim and follows through the contact is very Lebron like to me.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbWv9a1CY8[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1LdcgzJj4[/youtube]

Their current mock has us taking Brown at #3 (Which i LOVE) and Rabb going ..........wait for it...........#15! Sure, things will change a bit getting closer to the draft, but i dont see him jumping to where some other sites have him. Hell, even NBAdraft.com has him going at #9, so i think there is definitely a chance he is in play for us at #10 (Wiz pick).

[DirtyDez]

Wouldn't be dissapointed but not thrilled with Brown. I feel like he's gonna have one of those insane pre-draft workouts vids and rise up team's boards. I'd definitely explore some trade down scenarios of we were to stay at #3. Maybe a team will be high on Dunn/Bender.

[bwgood77]

Hell, even NBAdraft.com has him going at #9, so i think there is definitely a chance he is in play for us at #10 (Wiz pick).

I take it you mean nbadraft.net. They REALLY like Ivan Rabb. They have 27 videos of him and compare him to Chris Bosh.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ivan-rabb

[AtheJ415]

I'd be fine with Brown. He's the clearest cut 2 way player in the class, and I really like 2 way players. if we took him at 3 I would be fine, but I still personally prefer Bender and maybe Dunn if we're planning on moving one of the PGs.

[AtheJ415]

FWIW, I find Draftexpress by far the most credible of the free draft sites. NBAdraft.net I haven't looked at in year. They may have improved, but I feel like they mostly get traffic due to their domain/site name.

[bwgood77]

FWIW, I find Draftexpress by far the most credible of the free draft sites. NBAdraft.net I haven't looked at in year. They may have improved, but I feel like they mostly get traffic due to their domain/site name.

I think everyone thinks that. Givony does good work. I still look at them all though. nbadraft.net is more like what fans think. For example, all the fans love Rabb and dislike Ellenson as does nbadraft.net. The guys that talk to the real nba scouts more (Givony and Ford) are more similar and have Rabb at 14 and 15 and a guy like Ellenson in more of the same range (5-8).

[bwgood77]

Wouldn't be dissapointed but not thrilled with Brown. I feel like he's gonna have one of those insane pre-draft workouts vids and rise up team's boards. I'd definitely explore some trade down scenarios of we were to stay at #3. Maybe a team will be high on Dunn/Bender.

He seems kind of like a McD type of guy. I don't know though. He is intriguing in athleticism but I don't know if we need another player who is turnover prone, especially one that can't hit the 3. I'll have to watch him more, and of course I haven't seen much of Bender, but given our glaring hole at the 4 I would definitely go for Bender based on the limited exposure I have to these guys.

It seems next year there would be more of a clear choice at #3.

[jcsunsfan]

I'd be fine with Brown. He's the clearest cut 2 way player in the class, and I really like 2 way players. if we took him at 3 I would be fine, but I still personally prefer Bender and maybe Dunn if we're planning on moving one of the PGs.

Isn't he Justice Winslow part 2?

[saintEscaton]

I'd be fine with Brown. He's the clearest cut 2 way player in the class, and I really like 2 way players. if we took him at 3 I would be fine, but I still personally prefer Bender and maybe Dunn if we're planning on moving one of the PGs.

Isn't he Justice Winslow part 2?

I think Winslow will be a better MKG and Stanley will be like a Kawhi Lite. Jaylen is like a lesser defensively oriented/rawer Stanimal not as imposingly built but more explosive as a driver with a better handle and can split you off the bounce. He is much more fluid in transition, knows how to fill his lanes in the break and nearly unstoppable when he puts his head down and barrels in. Can outmuscle anyone in the paint and finish through contact and has a better touch around the rim but he needs to convert more from the charity stripe that will be his bread and butter until he develops a face up game

[bwgood77]

I'd be fine with Brown. He's the clearest cut 2 way player in the class, and I really like 2 way players. if we took him at 3 I would be fine, but I still personally prefer Bender and maybe Dunn if we're planning on moving one of the PGs.

Isn't he Justice Winslow part 2?

I think Winslow will be a better MKG and Stanley will be like a Kawhi Lite. Jaylen is like a lesser defensively oriented/rawer Stanimal not as imposingly built but more explosive as a driver with a better handle and can split you off the bounce. He is much more fluid in transition, knows how to fill his lanes in the break and nearly unstoppable when he puts his head down and barrels in. Can outmuscle anyone in the paint and finish through contact and has a better touch around the rim but he needs to convert more from the charity stripe that will be his bread and butter until he develops a face up game

Jaylen is more like a cross between MKG and Stanley to me. He may be more athletic (especially than Stanley) but his biggest weakness is shooting.

Winslow shot 41% from 3 in college and Brown is at 31%. Stanley was at 37% and MKG at 25%. Winslow is/was the guy most suited to contribute immediately because he can shoot and defend. Brown seems like better defender than Stanley (though the numbers slightly favor Stanley), but a worse floor spreader.

Jaylen can score inside....that's his strength on offense. He also is the worst of the 4 at turning the ball over.

If you look at college basketball-ref's box plus minus (pts per 100 possessions a player contributed over an avg player), Stanley and Winslow were over 10, MKG over 9, and Brown at exactly 5. This is all due to offense. The other three were about 5 on offense and defense (MKG 4 on defense), whereas Brown is 1.7 on offense and 3.3 on defense.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Brown shoots 31% from 3 and 64% from FT.

I think people are seduced by his dunks and athleticism on youtube.

Rabb is an old school PF, post up player with good skills, but without range.

I think someone like Myles Turner would have gone top 5 this year.

[AtheJ415]

Wouldn't be dissapointed but not thrilled with Brown. I feel like he's gonna have one of those insane pre-draft workouts vids and rise up team's boards. I'd definitely explore some trade down scenarios of we were to stay at #3. Maybe a team will be high on Dunn/Bender.

He seems kind of like a McD type of guy. I don't know though. He is intriguing in athleticism but I don't know if we need another player who is turnover prone, especially one that can't hit the 3. I'll have to watch him more, and of course I haven't seen much of Bender, but given our glaring hole at the 4 I would definitely go for Bender based on the limited exposure I have to these guys.

It seems next year there would be more of a clear choice at #3.

I think his jumper will get there. He's at about 30% from 3 at the moment IIRC. That's obviously not great, but he does take them which means he has confidence in it to some extent. It's a bit hard to watch Cal and judge their talent because I think Cuonzo misuses their talent quite a bit, particularly Rabb.

I think as far as rookie impact, it's clearly going to be in full court offense and as a defender. The rest of his offensive game will have to develop. But hey, Jimmy Butler had 0 offensive game until a year ago.

I'd go with Bender too just because I think Warren will be a good 3 going forward.

[thamadkant]

I would offer wiz pick for Trey Lyles instead. Rabb will climb post measurements and workouts.