2016 Draft

[AtheJ415]

I would offer wiz pick for Trey Lyles instead. Rabb will climb post measurements and workouts.

I don't think Utah would make that trade. They drafted Lyles at the same spot in what is considered a better class, and he's played well for them. There's some logic in Utah making some moves for cap reasons with Gobert and Hayward hitting FA in the next few years, but that would mean keeping rookie deals like Lyles and instead moving Hayward or Favors for a package of youngsters or picks, since they, unlike Lyles, have salaries that would potentially hurt their ability to keep Gobert and continue to build.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Most likely we will trade/FA a ready-made PF.

So pick the best draftee available for a championship run in the 2020s.

In the past 2 years every PF available at our pick range has been hyped up out of desperation.

[Damkac]

What I fear the most is we will be left with 5th or 6th pick and forced to take guard.

I would be sweet to get a pair of wings in this draft.
Bender(Simmons) + Luwawu
or
Brown(Ingram) + Rabb

[Amareca]

#1 Simmons PF
#12 Valentine GF

#2/3 Ingram or Brown
#12 Rabb or Davis or Ellenson or Jones

Get a third string PG and C with 27 and 33. eg Zubac and Felder or Skal and Payton or Diallo and Ulis..

[Amareca]

Jaylen Brown is a better offensive player than Stanley was. Jaylen can penetrate a defense. Stanleys offense was garbage.

[bwgood77]

Brown shoots 31% from 3 and 64% from FT.

I think people are seduced by his dunks and athleticism on youtube.

Rabb is an old school PF, post up player with good skills, but without range.

I think someone like Myles Turner would have gone top 5 this year.

Exactly, those guys, with their current skills, are great for college, not so great for pros. Look how much MKG struggled for so long trying to develop shot. Sure, guys can develop shooting, but I'd rather they have it in the first place, then they can more easily contribute quicker like Curry, Nash, Booker, Winslow.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

No interest in Valentine.

Right now, my preference at #3-5 is Bender. Rabb would be my second choice. My preference at #12-15 is Luwawu or Skal.

[bwgood77]

Jaylen Brown is a better offensive player than Stanley was. Jaylen can penetrate a defense. Stanleys offense was garbage.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-brown-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/stanley-johnson-1.html

Sure, if you prefer the Archie Goodwin style of offense. If you happen to examine numbers and understand the pro game and what is needed in this day and age, Stanley was much more equipped to contribute at the pro level offensively. Stanley was almost 3x better in offensive box plus/minus in college where being able to hit the 3 isn't as important. But he was a much better shooter with range and a much better FT shooter.

[bwgood77]

What I fear the most is we will be left with 5th or 6th pick and forced to take guard.

I would be sweet to get a pair of wings in this draft.
Bender(Simmons) + Luwawu
or
Brown(Ingram) + Rabb

Rabb isn't a wing though. But we need a PF most anyway. Preferably one with range.

[Amareca]

Snd everyone who saw Stanley saw him completely disappear offensively against teams playing defense.

Stanley has never shown the ability to handle the ball, penetrate a defense and get to the line like Brown has. Also Brown being a much better athlete.


Also Brown is shooting 36% from 3 already in conference play.

[bwgood77]

Snd everyone who saw Stanley saw him completely disappear offensively against teams playing defense.

Stanley has never shown the ability to handle the ball, penetrate a defense and get to the line like Brown has. Also Brown being a much better athlete.

Also Brown is shooting 36% from 3 already in conference play.

So even though the numbers suggest otherwise, lets go with your expert opinion on this regarding him vs Stanley.

I'm fine with TJ Warren as our 3. He was a much better scorer, got to the line about as much, but scored more from the line due to better FT %, was 58% from 2 pt range, whereas Brown is at 52%. He also averaged more steals, by a considerable margin. Brown only trumps him defensively. And TJ has proved he can shoot from 3 this year.

[Twuan89]

I like Rabb, if he's there with the Wizards pick we should take him.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I like Rabb, if he's there with the Wizards pick we should take him.

I'd be shocked if he was. Don't see him slipping - I see him rising.

[Mulhollanddrive]

He has no range we don't like that.

[bwgood77]

I kind of like Marquese Chriss. Here is a h2h video of him vs Rabb. Chriss shows some nice dunks and a nice face up game. Video says Rabb has higher floor, while Chriss has higher upside.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Ivan-Rabb-vs-Marquese-Chriss-Matchup-Video-Breakdown-5375/

[Amareca]

Snd everyone who saw Stanley saw him completely disappear offensively against teams playing defense.

Stanley has never shown the ability to handle the ball, penetrate a defense and get to the line like Brown has. Also Brown being a much better athlete.

Also Brown is shooting 36% from 3 already in conference play.

So even though the numbers suggest otherwise, lets go with your expert opinion on this regarding him vs Stanley.

I'm fine with TJ Warren as our 3. He was a much better scorer, got to the line about as much, but scored more from the line due to better FT %, was 58% from 2 pt range, whereas Brown is at 52%. He also averaged more steals, by a considerable margin. Brown only trumps him defensively. And TJ has proved he can shoot from 3 this year.

Has nothing to do with TJ.

Brown is simply the BPA at #3

Rabb is not going to rise he will go between 10-20 if he comes out.
He does not look like a fluid athlete.

He seems a litte bit similiar to Frye at UofA.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Snd everyone who saw Stanley saw him completely disappear offensively against teams playing defense.

Stanley has never shown the ability to handle the ball, penetrate a defense and get to the line like Brown has. Also Brown being a much better athlete.

Also Brown is shooting 36% from 3 already in conference play.

So even though the numbers suggest otherwise, lets go with your expert opinion on this regarding him vs Stanley.

I'm fine with TJ Warren as our 3. He was a much better scorer, got to the line about as much, but scored more from the line due to better FT %, was 58% from 2 pt range, whereas Brown is at 52%. He also averaged more steals, by a considerable margin. Brown only trumps him defensively. And TJ has proved he can shoot from 3 this year.

Has nothing to do with TJ.

Brown is simply the BPA at #3

Rabb is not going to rise he will go between 10-20 if he comes out.
He does not look like a fluid athlete.

I don't see what others see in Jaylen Brown.

I think Rabb rises because he'll be a solid defender and rebounder at both the 4 and 5 spots as a pro; he's very clearly a smart guy, and I bet he adds 3-point range as he develops.

With Chriss, you're taking a gamble. Worth it? I trust McD to know.

[saintEscaton]

Rabb is nothing like Frye , seems like not many of you actually watch Cal games. Right now hes like a more slender/mechanically advanced Ed Davis with higher upside coming out two years younger, I see more Jermaine O'Neal than Bosh in him if he can reach his ceiling. He has polished footwork, is an ambidextrous finisher so he can go strong with either hand , has a go to baby left hook and can hit the turnaround jumper from 15 feet out. I like how some of you are ragging on Brown for not being a sharpshooter, while excusing Ellenson's abysmal 28% from beyond the arc, he is supposed to be a floor spacing Stretch 4 who will probably have to move to center if he wanst to make it in the NBA

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Rabb is nothing like Frye , seems like not many of you actually watch Cal games. Right now hes like a more slender/mechanically advanced Ed Davis with higher upside coming out two years younger, I see more Jermaine O'Neal than Bosh in him if he can reach his ceiling. He has polished footwork, is an ambidextrous finisher so he can go strong with either hand , has a go to baby left hook and can hit the turnaround jumper from 15 feet out. I like how some of you are ragging on Brown for not being a sharpshooter, while excusing Ellenson's abysmal 28% from beyond the arc, he is supposed to be a floor spacing Stretch 4 who will probably have to move to center if he wanst to make it in the NBA

I pity the FO that takes Ellenson ahead of Rabb. Pretty sure Henry couldn't guard me...

[saintEscaton]

Rabb is nothing like Frye , seems like not many of you actually watch Cal games. Right now hes like a more slender/mechanically advanced Ed Davis with higher upside coming out two years younger, I see more Jermaine O'Neal than Bosh in him if he can reach his ceiling. He has polished footwork, is an ambidextrous finisher so he can go strong with either hand , has a go to baby left hook and can hit the turnaround jumper from 15 feet out. I like how some of you are ragging on Brown for not being a sharpshooter, while excusing Ellenson's abysmal 28% from beyond the arc, he is supposed to be a floor spacing Stretch 4 who will probably have to move to center if he wanst to make it in the NBA

I pity the FO that takes Ellenson ahead of Rabb. Pretty sure Henry couldn't guard me...

Like I said earlier, I'd take Juancho Hernangomez before him him, if the Wiz picks isn't in the lotto and ends up being late teens