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Post#161 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:56 pm

Roadhog Moran wrote:Having talked to a few of my buddies up in Illinois, the sense is that Jeffery will get franchised. They would have no weapons whatsoever if he left. He's not going anywhere.

I just wonder what the price for Miller is going to be. You can figure a four deal will be required. But I wouldn't be disappointed if they used every pick on the defense this year. It's our most glaring weakness and has been for a few years.

Of course, I add this provision. I've felt for years that you should take an offensive lineman in every draft. We've seen what happens when the O-Line gets old. So if they draft a kid to groom there I will never complain. Ever.

If Jefferies is not going anywhere and staying put In Chicago, then I'm all for using offensive resources on an RB instead of a WR, and go after a back like Miller, Powell or Hillman. Lets get back to power football with our great O-line. My thinking all along was if we could not pick up nice WR in free agency, then going after a nice RB was next on my radar.
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Post#162 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:55 pm

I agree about RB. Good ones out there within the age parameters you want as they hit their prime. I'm just leery about what the baseline will be once the bidding starts. All it takes is one stupid signing to warp the marketplace.
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Post#163 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:32 pm

Now that we know Dez will be back healthy and ready to go next season, I'd like to stretch the field a bit on offense. Don't want Dez getting doubled and triple teamed all next year and letting those teams getting away with it. If we don't stretch the field by adding a nice piece on the opposite of Dez, then we need the power back that can block, catch and rush for around 1300 yards. Not confident in our RB situation. Its not bad, but far from complete.
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Post#164 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:35 am

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Now that we know Dez will be back healthy and ready to go next season, I'd like to stretch the field a bit on offense. Don't want Dez getting doubled and triple teamed all next year and letting those teams getting away with it. If we don't stretch the field by adding a nice piece on the opposite of Dez, then we need the power back that can block, catch and rush for around 1300 yards. Not confident in our RB situation. Its not bad, but far from complete.


Well - we had better upgrade the #2 WR position. I'm convinced Williams isn't the guy. I've seen enough of his vanishing act.
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Re: 2016 Draft - Never too early 

Post#165 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:00 am

A WR that is free and can stretch the field and could be cheap I wouldn't mind seeing them go get is Andre Holmes. He's not the same player than came through here a couple of years ago. I mean technically it's the same guy but he's gotten much better at actually catching the ball. He's also big.
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Post#166 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:32 am

Roadhog Moran wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Now that we know Dez will be back healthy and ready to go next season, I'd like to stretch the field a bit on offense. Don't want Dez getting doubled and triple teamed all next year and letting those teams getting away with it. If we don't stretch the field by adding a nice piece on the opposite of Dez, then we need the power back that can block, catch and rush for around 1300 yards. Not confident in our RB situation. Its not bad, but far from complete.


Well - we had better upgrade the #2 WR position. I'm convinced Williams isn't the guy. I've seen enough of his vanishing act.

I noticed both Marvin Jones and M. Sanu from the Bengals are free agents.
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Post#167 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:46 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Roadhog Moran wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Now that we know Dez will be back healthy and ready to go next season, I'd like to stretch the field a bit on offense. Don't want Dez getting doubled and triple teamed all next year and letting those teams getting away with it. If we don't stretch the field by adding a nice piece on the opposite of Dez, then we need the power back that can block, catch and rush for around 1300 yards. Not confident in our RB situation. Its not bad, but far from complete.


Well - we had better upgrade the #2 WR position. I'm convinced Williams isn't the guy. I've seen enough of his vanishing act.

I noticed both Marvin Jones and M. Sanu from the Bengals are free agents.


I like Sanu. Gets hurt a little more than I prefer but he's talented as hell.
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Post#168 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:57 pm

I've made up my mind now. Unless we move back for additional picks, I want Myles Jack with the #4 pick.
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Post#169 » by Mr B » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:39 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I've made up my mind now. Unless we move back for additional picks, I want Myles Jack with the #4 pick.


I don't trust his knee. The last thing this team needs is more injury prone players.
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Post#170 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:13 pm

I think he will be fine. I want the best linebacker in the draft and he is it. If not, the only other 1 round players I am interested and want is either Deforest Buckner or Andrew Billings. With all the developments that have taken place the past couple weeks, its hard to argue we are not in desperate need of DL's.
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Post#171 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:36 am

I see a lot of Hollywood Henderson in this Myles Jack kid.
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Post#172 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:01 pm

Goff stock is going down, San Diego looking to trade #3 pick. All music to my ears. I just hope we get the right defensive player.
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Post#173 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Mar 3, 2016 7:03 pm

And Andrew Billings stock is soaring after the combine. Hall of famer, Bill Polian says he is the best DT and steal of the draft. More music to my ears.
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Re: 2016 Draft - Never too early 

Post#174 » by HMFFL » Fri Mar 4, 2016 3:17 am

First Round mock draft.
4 difficult mocks.
Two votes for Joey Bosa, 1 Ezekiel Elliott, and 1 for Jalen Ramsey.

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Post#175 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Mar 4, 2016 5:34 am

I don't like any of those picks for us. IMHO, none of those picks would address our biggest weakness the past 5 years. DT and LB. We have been so weak on defense is truly sickening to me. We are not strong up the middle, were horrible vs. the run and LB can't cover backs in the passing game. Ever wonder why we are rebuilding going on 20 years now? IMO is because we haven't addressed this issue. I still would take Jack, Buckner or Billings, who I think will be the steal of the draft, over Bosa any day. But that's just me. All of our most successful teams we had an outstanding defense and all those teams had great DT's and LB's. Lilly, Pugh, White, Jones, Haley, Howley, Jordan, Henderson. We've been lousy and irrelevant at these positions since Haley and Leon Lett Left. Doesn't matter if its baseball, football, etc., you have to be strong up the middle.
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Post#176 » by Mr B » Fri Mar 4, 2016 7:11 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:And Andrew Billings stock is soaring after the combine. Hall of famer, Bill Polian says he is the best DT and steal of the draft. More music to my ears.


Really? Everything I've seen shows that Billings stock is falling for some reason. Most "experts" that do top 100 player lists have him falling and most mocks I've seen now have him going in the late 1st to early 2nd.
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Post#177 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Mar 4, 2016 8:08 pm

I guess Hall of Famer, Bill Poilian doesn't have a clue then.
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Post#178 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Mar 4, 2016 10:23 pm

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:And Andrew Billings stock is soaring after the combine. Hall of famer, Bill Polian says he is the best DT and steal of the draft. More music to my ears.


Really? Everything I've seen shows that Billings stock is falling for some reason. Most "experts" that do top 100 player lists have him falling and most mocks I've seen now have him going in the late 1st to early 2nd.
If that's the case, and what you are saying is true, then I may just get what I want. Myles Jack round 1, Andrew Billings round 2. It would be major yee-haa material for me. I would be in heaven. Myles Jack is the best LB in the draft and a top 6 player in the draft. Not only is he a freak of nature LB, but he is great in coverage and can also play safety. What versatility he brings playing next to Sean Lee. Saw some film on Jack recently and he reminds me so much of Hollywood Henderson. Plus it was just reported that Bosa is quite the party animal. I'm all done with those type of players. Myles Jack also has a solid background and is of absolute high character. ONE injury doesn't mean he is injury prone.
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Post#180 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Mar 5, 2016 12:44 am

That figures. Jerry loves the high risk players. That sucks. Just what we need, another party animal.

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