Bellator General Discussion and Info

Bernman · Post #1221 » by **Bernman** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:50 am

Abdul Razak Al-Hassan also impressive with the fake leg kick to just over-hand sledge hammer. Good setup and big power.

Steve Garcia looked decent with the sharp shots.

Post #1222 » by **Shaazzam** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:01 am

REDDzone · Post #1223 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:07 am

They should stop that crap, Gaethe last week almost flipped onto his KOed opponent.

Bernman · Post #1224 » by **Bernman** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:28 am

Your boy Emmanuel Sanchez from Milwaukee and Roufusport won by decision. Debatable, but I thought he just won, and the media scored it for him too. He should have left no doubt with the flying triangle finish, but he got greedy. Wanted to damage his opponent with elbows and make it a flying triangle-armbar. I hate when fighters won't stick to one move, especially the triangle. The armbar creates so much space in it if you don't bend it just right immediately. Quick, slithery back takes though too. And I like his usage of setup kicks and at the end of combos. But he smothers his punches by throwing them at the same time and he sets himself up to get hit not throwing enough singles or even doubles. Too reliant on his chin. Also, his athleticism leaves something to be desired. But solid fighter. I highly doubt champ material, but should be in a lot of fun fights, and maybe could be top 10 one day.

REDDzone · Post #1225 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:41 pm

Hm I don't know that guy, interesting though I'll have to track down the fight.

Bernman · Post #1226 » by **Bernman** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:43 pm

REDDzone wrote:Hm I don't know that guy, interesting though I'll have to track down the fight.

I was half kidding, but I thought you'd know him.

Pettis bigs him a lot.

Incidentally, he beat Corrales, who was either your boy, or you claimed was Bellator's. He's decent. His boxing is better than average, his tdd is alright, and he's tough. But that's about all he's bringing to the table. Sanchez was a lot more diverse and savvy. That's what won him the fight, in spite of being at an explosiveness disadvantage. Seems like a type of guy you would like, hometown aside. He tries to claim Mexico a lot more, bringing the flag to the cage, speaking Spanish half the time. Admittedly trying to market himself to Mexicans ala De La Hoya.

And the fight was pretty fun. Twas on the main card. Sanchez previously fought Curran, and Corrales vs. Straus. So they had a profile.

Bernman · Post #1227 » by **Bernman** » Fri Dec 4, 2015 10:36 pm

Another virtual gimme for the Punk. I think the MMA public knows who he is at this point. No need to give him showcase. The mismatches in Bellator made sense under Bjorn because he wanted to preserve fighters between tournaments while keeping them active enough. Necessary evil of that system. This is just so unnecessary.

Real main event is Georgi vs. Weichel in a #1 contender bout in Bellator's best division. I think Weichel is the longer guy, also has a slick kickboxing game, can time td's, and stay safe enough on top. That's how I think the fight will go. Weichel probably just needs to avoid that guillotine on the way down. Weichel by decision.

The Derek Anderson vs. Patricky Pitbull match is another solid one. Anderson was inexperienced back then and still won. Now he's more aware defensively. His game isn't neutered without too much of a td threat. Also a better kicker. Anderson via that advantage, either comfortable decision w/ leg kicks or hk ko. '

But not a good card overall I'd say. Just kind of a throw-in for the most part. Never know in MMA though.

cowboyronnie · Post #1228 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sat Dec 5, 2015 2:17 am

I don't think the sensational fights do much for the org. It's not long-term. I think it actually just belittles their stable of 155/170ers, diminishes them to not only second class talent but second class interest. They seem even more journeyman-like. The Pitbulls, Strauss, Brooks, etc...these guys who've all fought one another countless times. Bring in talent for them specifically, to fight them. Right now there are the guys on the marquee like Kimbo and Ken, then this stable of countless guys we've been seeing for 5 or so years. They only appear more insignificant.

Bernman · Post #1229 » by **Bernman** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 12:46 am

RZ, you should check out that Piccolotti kid if you haven't already. He's an aggressive, quick transitioning, technical fighter in a BJJ/striking style. In one sequence he shot really low on his opponent from distance, ankle picked him to keep from getting up, then slithered to the back to start working on the choke. He'd fluidly transition from side to mount in almost one motion, whipping his leg over. Then furiously gnp with hard bows and s**t to set up arm-triangles, amerikanas, rnr's, etc.; whatever opened up. Eventually flattened the dude out and put a lot of torque in an rnr for the finish. I was wondering why they put him on the main card, but I know why now. Had to gain a lot of fans from that performance. That's what Bellator should be doing more of, having patience to build fighters on tv even if they aren't getting good ratings in the interim. Better yet would be to build them off a decent name.

A.J. Mckee was a guy on the prelims who looks like he's on the path to pretty big things. Very smooth footwork, getting angles down the middle for straights, then off center for hooks. Flying knees when he had his opponent cornered. And aggressive gnp on top. Good skill-set, athleticism, and killer instinct there.

I liked Barnes when he was on the ill-fated FightMaster show and he hit a rnr from crucifix vs. James Terry. That was pretty cool.

Weichel-Karakhanyan was not exciting, but Weichel just professionally did his thing in hard sparring fashion, using his superior reach, straight boxing, and basic kicking game. I think Weichel enters that revolving door of Bellator fw contenders who put on great, competitive fights. Straus won't let that be boring with his striking advancements, well-rounded game, and newly adapted aggressive style. But Weichel won't let himself be picked apart from the outside and not likely thrown around. The one who is more opportunistic wins.

Jasen777 · Post #1230 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:31 pm

Bellator announces the launch of Bellator Kickboxing

What.

REDDzone · Post #1231 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 5:52 am

Darrion Caldwell is an absolute monster.

SDM · Post #1232 » by **SDM** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 11:46 am

REDDzone wrote:Darrion Caldwell is an absolute monster.

That, and Warren's not very good.

REDDzone · Post #1233 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 3:39 pm

I think you can see the tools regardless.

Bernman · Post #1234 » by **Bernman** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 2:39 am

Warren is good at what he does, but he didn't have an out with it in this fight. Right before the opening bell I had the feeling he was just going destroyed due to that realization.

Caldwell taking him down was impressive. Set up by his striking/range and a swift level change. Then he fluidly goes sub to sub. Tools indeed.

What I saw of that event kind of sucked though. Jenkins-Yamauchi was disappointing, but not surprising when you have opposite style fighters, and one who is too comfortable on his back. Yamauchi has to limit that part of his game if he ever wants to graduate from being a talent.

REDDzone · Post #1235 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 7:24 am

Bernman wrote:Warren is good at what he does, but he didn't have an out with it in this fight. Right before the opening bell I had the feeling he was just going destroyed due to that realization.

Caldwell taking him down was impressive. Set up by his striking/range and a swift level change. Then he fluidly goes sub to sub. Tools indeed.

What I saw of that event kind of sucked though. Jenkins-Yamauchi was disappointing, but not surprising when you have opposite style fighters, and one who is too comfortable on his back. Yamauchi has to limit that part of his game if he ever wants to graduate from being a talent.

I couldn't believe Jenkins was letting go of his RNC armbar defense in order to punch down lol. Either huge balls or stupid fight IQ. Also couldn't believe a black belt like Yamauchi didn't make him pay for that.

Bernman · Post #1236 » by **Bernman** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:53 pm

Bendo makes his debut tonight, against Koreshkov. Koreshkov is more proven than Thatch was, not that much smaller, more competent on the ground, and is smarter; so will be an interesting gauge to see where Bendo is at as a ww. I'm inclined to think he drops this one.

Pretty interesting card overall, actually. MVP is finally back in there, and against what looks like an actual competent opponent. Will be a show and a little edifying if he doesn't get held up against the cage.

Pitbull is back too. On paper, he's over-matching Corrales, but Corrales is a game semi-technical brawler and you know Pitbull doesn't back down from the fight, plus it's also a question of how much he has left in him after all the wars.

Gleristone Santos vs. Brent Primus is a sick fight. Both well-rounded athletes who could/should be undefeated recently. Winner is a contender.

Ward-Cyborg is a battle between two explosive guys, I'll give them that.

And there are a few interesting enough guys on the prelims like Honeycutt, Patishnock, and Bessette.

Definitely a huge upgrade on the crap they've been recently producing.

Jasen777 · Post #1237 » by **Jasen777** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:02 am

Didn't realize Koreshkov was that much bigger.

Of course I mainly remember Koreshkov from the Askren fight.

cowboyronnie · Post #1238 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:05 am

Koreshkov is not good imo

REDDzone · Post #1239 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:42 am

cowboyronnie wrote:Koreshkov is not good imo

Was the Askren fight the only fight you saw? Not sure why else you'd think this tbh.

cowboyronnie · Post #1240 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:48 am

cowboyronnie wrote:Koreshkov is not good imo

Be nice. Be charitable. Be like Christ.