Fournier.....Resign or let him walk away

[Xatticus]

I feel like if he does resign, it would be a front loaded contract since the Magic have significant cap room, I imagine Henny looking out for him his first year and the rest of the years will be manageable.

That's a very good point. The Magic will have to spend money on someone, and they might just throw some of it into the first year of a contract to Fournier knowing that he wouldn't be a difficult asset to move on from later.

[Dennis Reynolds]

I've been hard on Dipo for playing hero ball but I understand him now. When he sees Fournier getting away with ignoring everyone but Vuc he must think he can do the same,especially considering he's a way better defender.
We have seen Dipo share the ball more the past few games. It seems like playing team ball as a unit has a positive effect on him. We also defend and run the breaks so much better with him on the court.
Reading the game thread tonight it looks like Fournier was again the one responsible for stopping the ball movement. He is widely inconsistent,ruins our whole offense and offers nothing when his shot isn't falling. If we have to choose between him and Dipo,we need to get rid of Fournier. His selfish play has a negative effect on the whole team.

[Orlwillbeback]

we should resign him because otherwise we'll lose an asset for nothing. That way We can just flip him if we want to like we did with Tobias.

[SaberT]

I've been hard on Dipo for playing hero ball but I understand him now. When he sees Fournier getting away with ignoring everyone but Vuc he must think he can do the same,especially considering he's a way better defender.
We have seen Dipo share the ball more the past few games. It seems like playing team ball as a unit has a positive effect on him. We also defend and run the breaks so much better with him on the court.
Reading the game thread tonight it looks like Fournier was again the one responsible for stopping the ball movement. He is widely inconsistent,ruins our whole offense and offers nothing when his shot isn't falling. If we have to choose between him and Dipo,we need to get rid of Fournier. His selfish play has a negative effect on the whole team.

I had the same feeling. Oladipo is known to do hero ball, especially later in games when plays break down, but in the last few games I felt he shared the ball well, he did not ignore open guys or pass only to his favorites (not sure if he even has a favorite). To me it looks like he "got it" and understood the game plan.

Fournier is still freezing out Hezonja, and almost anyone else. Only player who consistently gets the ball from Fournier is his buddy Vucevic. This kind of play really hurts the team as players feel this. If you know that by passing to Fournier, you can go back and defend as the ball is not coming back, people start to pass the ball less, dribble more and play worse basketball. It's contagious. Everyone needs to buy into the "share the ball" plan in order for it to work. If you pass and know that the ball will come back if you become open, that's a great thing for a player to know, it makes it easier for him and better for the team.

I hope Fournier starts to get this as well. He's a solid player, I'd say he would be that much better if he passed the ball more.

[axl_c_cool]

I'd try and sign and trade for Noel and Saric.


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[axl_c_cool]

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Maybe try and pick up Staukais as well and trade CJ Watson


CJ Watson + Fournier

For

Noel + Saric + Staukais


Then we can move Vucevic in a package and go with


Payton/
Oladipo/Stauskias
Hezonja
Gordon/Saric
Noel/

That gives us room to add a talent that we get for Vucevic and our draft pick to fill out the roster


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[Von Bismarck]

There's no way Philly would do that trade.

[purpleswordfish]

If Hennigan is still the GM of the team (which he most likely will be), I feel like looking at past strategy is probably the best way to determine future strategy. The last two big free agent deals for Orlando were Channing Frye (UFA) and Tobias Harris (RFA). Both were given big contracts that looked like slight overpays. When it was determined that they weren't adding value to the team that aligned with the bloated contracts, they were both traded away for practically nothing.

So, my prediction is that Orlando matches any offer out there, maybe overpays a little. Then, the reality eventually sets in that you overpaid a guy that wouldn't be a focal point on most NBA teams. So, you trade him for what really amounts to nothing in return.

[Hilltop]

Depends on the price. I would gladly offer whatever Terrence Ross is making. He's worth at least that.

[BadMofoPimp]

Henny will resign Fournier if he strikes out in the Free Agency market. Or, use him in a sign n trade deal.

The problem is that the Magic have almost no leverage to work a SnT.

Depends on the team.

[BadMofoPimp]

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Maybe try and pick up Staukais as well and trade CJ Watson


CJ Watson + Fournier

For

Noel + Saric + Staukais


Then we can move Vucevic in a package and go with


Payton/
Oladipo/Stauskias
Hezonja
Gordon/Saric
Noel/

That gives us room to add a talent that we get for Vucevic and our draft pick to fill out the roster


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Philly wouldn't even do Fournier for Saric or Fournier for Noel much less your deal.

Any trade for Noel would have to involve Oladipo and I don't want to go there.

[King Close]

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Maybe try and pick up Staukais as well and trade CJ Watson


CJ Watson + Fournier

For

Noel + Saric + Staukais


Then we can move Vucevic in a package and go with


Payton/
Oladipo/Stauskias
Hezonja
Gordon/Saric
Noel/

That gives us room to add a talent that we get for Vucevic and our draft pick to fill out the roster


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Philly wouldn't even do Fournier for Saric or Fournier for Noel much less your deal.

Any trade for Noel would have to involve Oladipo and I don't want to go there.

I agree with what you're saying, but man isn't Noel overrated? Sure he's a very young, good defensive big(not a good team defender according to the philly board) but he hasn't improved much from last year so i'm not sure there's a whole lot of potential left. He also can't play the 4, so you're forced to play him at the 5 and he wouldn't start over Vooch unless sliding Vooch to the 4 which doesn't really work well.

[BadMofoPimp]

Pressed send to soon*


Maybe try and pick up Staukais as well and trade CJ Watson


CJ Watson + Fournier

For

Noel + Saric + Staukais


Then we can move Vucevic in a package and go with


Payton/
Oladipo/Stauskias
Hezonja
Gordon/Saric
Noel/

That gives us room to add a talent that we get for Vucevic and our draft pick to fill out the roster


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Philly wouldn't even do Fournier for Saric or Fournier for Noel much less your deal.

Any trade for Noel would have to involve Oladipo and I don't want to go there.

I agree with what you're saying, but man isn't Noel overrated? Sure he's a very young, good defensive big(not a good team defender according to the philly board) but he hasn't improved much from last year so i'm not sure there's a whole lot of potential left. He also can't play the 4, so you're forced to play him at the 5 and he wouldn't start over Vooch unless sliding Vooch to the 4 which doesn't really work well.

Noel is a starting level player in the NBA. Not sure if he will ever develop into an All-Star, but he is young. Who knows how he improves or not. A players sophomore year sometimes isn't as good as his rookie year as in Noel. But, what is important is how good they can be by year 4 or 5.

[basketballRob]

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Maybe try and pick up Staukais as well and trade CJ Watson


CJ Watson + Fournier

For

Noel + Saric + Staukais


Then we can move Vucevic in a package and go with


Payton/
Oladipo/Stauskias
Hezonja
Gordon/Saric
Noel/

That gives us room to add a talent that we get for Vucevic and our draft pick to fill out the roster


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Philly wouldn't even do Fournier for Saric or Fournier for Noel much less your deal.

Any trade for Noel would have to involve Oladipo and I don't want to go there.

I agree with what you're saying, but man isn't Noel overrated? Sure he's a very young, good defensive big(not a good team defender according to the philly board) but he hasn't improved much from last year so i'm not sure there's a whole lot of potential left. He also can't play the 4, so you're forced to play him at the 5 and he wouldn't start over Vooch unless sliding Vooch to the 4 which doesn't really work well.

I think Vooch will not be here too much longer. Hopefully they shut him down soon for the rest of this season.

[cedric76]

Philly wouldn't even do Fournier for Saric or Fournier for Noel much less your deal.

Any trade for Noel would have to involve Oladipo and I don't want to go there.

I agree with what you're saying, but man isn't Noel overrated? Sure he's a very young, good defensive big(not a good team defender according to the philly board) but he hasn't improved much from last year so i'm not sure there's a whole lot of potential left. He also can't play the 4, so you're forced to play him at the 5 and he wouldn't start over Vooch unless sliding Vooch to the 4 which doesn't really work well.

I think Vooch will not be here too much longer. Hopefully they shut him down soon for the rest of this season.

???? Not much longer????

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[Xatticus]

I agree with what you're saying, but man isn't Noel overrated? Sure he's a very young, good defensive big(not a good team defender according to the philly board) but he hasn't improved much from last year so i'm not sure there's a whole lot of potential left. He also can't play the 4, so you're forced to play him at the 5 and he wouldn't start over Vooch unless sliding Vooch to the 4 which doesn't really work well.

He has quick feet for a big man, which means he has the potential to be far more than just a rim protector. Regarding his value, I have no clue. All of Philadelphia's big men have some pretty glaring weaknesses, but Noel has the skill set to become something like what Tyson Chandler was.

[King Close]

Noel is a starting level player in the NBA. Not sure if he will ever develop into an All-Star, but he is young. Who knows how he improves or not. A players sophomore year sometimes isn't as good as his rookie year as in Noel. But, what is important is how good they can be by year 4 or 5.

Not saying I disagree, but people are saying it'd take Oladipo in a package just to get him. Either they are highly overrating him, underrating Oladipo's value, or i'm just not seeing something. I also recall from the Philly boards people laughing at the idea of Oladipo for Noel which is just insane because i'd imagine Oladipos value is quite a bit more than Noel's.