Potential sleepers

[EMG518]

Hield is Jodie meeks with the benefit of a sr year. Great college player nice role nba player. And ulis puts tremendous ball pressure size doesn't matter because you don't have hand checking in the nba. Pg defense doesn't almost matter anymore because they took anyway physical contact. But ulis has that confidence to give enough effort to not let size be a factor, besides no one at pg posts up anyways.

Hield is bigger, faster, more explosive, and alot longer, those things make a difference at the next level. All I am going to say on that. As far as Ulis goes, 5'9", 160 lbs, you cant name 1 player in the league that size. You want to throw out Isaiah Thomas like im sure many of his supporters would, he is more explosive than Ulis, slightly taller and has 25lbs on him.

Meeks was just as athletic. Same height, i don't know about wingspan because I haven't looked but people are forgetting he put up 54 as a jr. And ulis has the same measurables as Thomas except weight.

Nah, they are different athletically. Have you seen Hield on the break, guys is faster and more explosive than Meeks, he is bigger and alot longer as well. Like I said that makes a difference at the next level. Ulis is a bit shorter than Isaiah but that really isnt the point, the point is he is less explosive while being 25lbs lighter. There isnt a guy his size in the league. He would have to be an incredible player with elite athletic ability to make it and he doesnt have that adequate athletic ability at his size in my opinion. Have you seen the guys that size in the league in the past, they are insanely quick or explosive. He isnt.

[peachbucket]

Mine is Marcus Evans from Rice...a whole lot of D. Lillard to his game.

[Justwar]

Hield is bigger, faster, more explosive, and alot longer, those things make a difference at the next level. All I am going to say on that. As far as Ulis goes, 5'9", 160 lbs, you cant name 1 player in the league that size. You want to throw out Isaiah Thomas like im sure many of his supporters would, he is more explosive than Ulis, slightly taller and has 25lbs on him.

Meeks was just as athletic. Same height, i don't know about wingspan because I haven't looked but people are forgetting he put up 54 as a jr. And ulis has the same measurables as Thomas except weight.

Nah, they are different athletically. Have you seen Hield on the break, guys is faster and more explosive than Meeks, he is bigger and alot longer as well. Like I said that makes a difference at the next level. Ulis is a bit shorter than Isaiah but that really isnt the point, the point is he is less explosive while being 25lbs lighter. There isnt a guy his size in the league. He would have to be an incredible player with elite athletic ability to make it and he doesnt have that adequate athletic ability at his size in my opinion. Have you seen the guys that size in the league in the past, they are insanely quick or explosive. He isnt.

Meeks and hield are both 6'4 in shoes just like ulis and Thomas are 5"10 in shoes.

[EMG518]

Meeks was just as athletic. Same height, i don't know about wingspan because I haven't looked but people are forgetting he put up 54 as a jr. And ulis has the same measurables as Thomas except weight.

Nah, they are different athletically. Have you seen Hield on the break, guys is faster and more explosive than Meeks, he is bigger and alot longer as well. Like I said that makes a difference at the next level. Ulis is a bit shorter than Isaiah but that really isnt the point, the point is he is less explosive while being 25lbs lighter. There isnt a guy his size in the league. He would have to be an incredible player with elite athletic ability to make it and he doesnt have that adequate athletic ability at his size in my opinion. Have you seen the guys that size in the league in the past, they are insanely quick or explosive. He isnt.

Meeks and hield are both 6'4 in shoes just like ulis and Thomas are 5"10 in shoes.

1.That is false, one would just need to check measurements to confirm it to be false.
2.Why are you even responding with that, I have no idea. Even if it were true which it isnt, what is the difference. If they were the same height then what, that negates what was said somehow?

[No-Man]

DeAndre Bembry is my sleeper. He's going for 17/8/5 on 47% from the field with a steal to boot. He's a versatile wing player who pretty much does it all for his team. His biggest weakness is his long range shooting since he only makes 27% from deep, but I think he can pattern his game after Larry Hughes to be successful in the NBA.

He should not declare, he has a chance to get 1st round looks next year if he works and gets his shot going.
Kids should get advantage of their 4 years of eligibility and only leave when they are ready shooting wise, especially wings.

[No-Man]

Hield is Jodie meeks with the benefit of a sr year. Great college player nice role nba player. And ulis puts tremendous ball pressure size doesn't matter because you don't have hand checking in the nba. Pg defense doesn't almost matter anymore because they took anyway physical contact. But ulis has that confidence to give enough effort to not let size be a factor, besides no one at pg posts up anyways.

Hield is bigger, faster, more explosive, and alot longer, those things make a difference at the next level. All I am going to say on that. As far as Ulis goes, 5'9", 160 lbs, you cant name 1 player in the league that size. You want to throw out Isaiah Thomas like im sure many of his supporters would, he is more explosive than Ulis, slightly taller and has 25lbs on him.

I dont think he is more explosive or faster, similar athletes, Jodie was a pretty good athlete, he is longer, 3 inches in winspan and that matters, but not much bigger, Meeks is probably around 220 also.

A little more well-rounded, better defender Meeks will be my comp, which is not bad, but nothing to wet your pants about or consider in the top10.
Solid role player.

[No-Man]

Nah, they are different athletically. Have you seen Hield on the break, guys is faster and more explosive than Meeks, he is bigger and alot longer as well. Like I said that makes a difference at the next level. Ulis is a bit shorter than Isaiah but that really isnt the point, the point is he is less explosive while being 25lbs lighter. There isnt a guy his size in the league. He would have to be an incredible player with elite athletic ability to make it and he doesnt have that adequate athletic ability at his size in my opinion. Have you seen the guys that size in the league in the past, they are insanely quick or explosive. He isnt.

Meeks and hield are both 6'4 in shoes just like ulis and Thomas are 5"10 in shoes.

1.That is false, one would just need to check measurements to confirm it to be false.
2.Why are you even responding with that, I have no idea. Even if it were true which it isnt, what is the difference. If they were the same height then what, that negates what was said somehow?

Both are 6'4 in shoes and in the Ulis subject, he is insanely quick, I dont know what you are watching, he is definetely small but he is much better defensively than Thomas, is not even worth arguing about it, even though he is smaller and less explosive.
Ulis is quick and can ball, have you seen Ish Smith changing the face of a franchise? well Ulis is a better playmaker than Ish, especially in half court and a much better shooter, and as quick, he is going to be at least that good.

[EMG518]

Hield is Jodie meeks with the benefit of a sr year. Great college player nice role nba player. And ulis puts tremendous ball pressure size doesn't matter because you don't have hand checking in the nba. Pg defense doesn't almost matter anymore because they took anyway physical contact. But ulis has that confidence to give enough effort to not let size be a factor, besides no one at pg posts up anyways.

Hield is bigger, faster, more explosive, and alot longer, those things make a difference at the next level. All I am going to say on that. As far as Ulis goes, 5'9", 160 lbs, you cant name 1 player in the league that size. You want to throw out Isaiah Thomas like im sure many of his supporters would, he is more explosive than Ulis, slightly taller and has 25lbs on him.

I dont think he is more explosive or faster, similar athletes, Jodie was a pretty good athlete, he is longer, 3 inches in winspan and that matters, but not much bigger, Meeks is probably around 220 also.

A little more well-rounded, better defender Meeks will be my comp, which is not bad, but nothing to wet your pants about or consider in the top10.
Solid role player.

Agree to disagree then. I have no doubt Meeks was a good athlete and I would say is a bit shiftier with the abll but I think Hield is clearly faster, more explosive, and has the better nba body. There is a huge difference between a 6'4.5" wingspan and a 6'8.5" wingspan.

I think you are vastly underrating him. I dont think there is anyway he doesnt go top 10. Far more valueable than a solid sole player.

[EMG518]

Meeks and hield are both 6'4 in shoes just like ulis and Thomas are 5"10 in shoes.

1.That is false, one would just need to check measurements to confirm it to be false.
2.Why are you even responding with that, I have no idea. Even if it were true which it isnt, what is the difference. If they were the same height then what, that negates what was said somehow?

Both are 6'4 in shoes and in the Ulis subject, he is insanely quick, I dont know what you are watching, he is definetely small but he is much better defensively than Thomas, is not even worth arguing about it, even though he is smaller and less explosive.
Ulis is quick and can ball, have you seen Ish Smith changing the face of a franchise? well Ulis is a better playmaker than Ish, especially in half court and a much better shooter, and as quick, he is going to be at least that good.

Hield measured half an inch taller not that it matters, it really is irrelevant. Ulis is quick, no doubt but at that size you have to be more than just quick, you have to be elite and he isnt. Ish Smith isnt the same size as him, he has a few inches on him, more weight, and is quicker. There is nobody in the league at Ulis's size and if you look at players his size ffrom the past the athleticism of those players was on a different level. I just dont see it, I dont think he can hang at the next level.

[No-Man]

If you believe he is more valuable than that is because you think he is going to make plays off-the-dribble something he hasnt even done consistenly on the college level even playing with the best spacing in the nation, his handle is just not that good, and his athleticism is average, he can get to the rack in transition, which is good, but on normal settings he is going to be a spot up shooter.
I think Meeks handle and scoring knack was better than Hield's, he was a lesser shooter but a better scorer in terms of getting buckets in a hurry, a more explosive player.
The wingspan is a big deal defensively, where Hield projects to be solid, again all I can see is something in the ballpark of Meeks, Daequan Cook or Ellington, a tad better than them but nothing to get too excited about, he is not JJ Redick.

[EMG518]

We will see I guess, beating a dead horse.

[cedric76]

Damian Jones was overrated but now he is almost a sleeper, what the guy can do athletically at his size is tremendous, for a team like Orlando he could be worth of alotto pick.

Completely agree. I could see him eventually becoming a Derrick Favors-type

Hope so

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[BoyzNTheHood]

DeAndre Bembry is my sleeper. He's going for 17/8/5 on 47% from the field with a steal to boot. He's a versatile wing player who pretty much does it all for his team. His biggest weakness is his long range shooting since he only makes 27% from deep, but I think he can pattern his game after Larry Hughes to be successful in the NBA.

He should not declare, he has a chance to get 1st round looks next year if he works and gets his shot going.
Kids should get advantage of their 4 years of eligibility and only leave when they are ready shooting wise, especially wings.

If he get's a jumper it's lights out, but the fact that he can't shoot is why he's my sleeper

[Ruzious]

Hield is Jodie meeks with the benefit of a sr year. Great college player nice role nba player. And ulis puts tremendous ball pressure size doesn't matter because you don't have hand checking in the nba. Pg defense doesn't almost matter anymore because they took anyway physical contact. But ulis has that confidence to give enough effort to not let size be a factor, besides no one at pg posts up anyways.

Hield is bigger, faster, more explosive, and alot longer, those things make a difference at the next level. All I am going to say on that. As far as Ulis goes, 5'9", 160 lbs, you cant name 1 player in the league that size. You want to throw out Isaiah Thomas like im sure many of his supporters would, he is more explosive than Ulis, slightly taller and has 25lbs on him.

Meeks was just as athletic. Same height, i don't know about wingspan because I haven't looked but people are forgetting he put up 54 as a jr. And ulis has the same measurables as Thomas except weight.

And even if Ulis falls short of Thomas, he can be very effective. I think most people still don't get how good Thomas is.

Meeks' 6'4.5 wingspan was definitely a limiting factor for him. Hield's 6'8.5 doesn't have that problem. It's a huge difference.

[No-Man]

Hield is bigger, faster, more explosive, and alot longer, those things make a difference at the next level. All I am going to say on that. As far as Ulis goes, 5'9", 160 lbs, you cant name 1 player in the league that size. You want to throw out Isaiah Thomas like im sure many of his supporters would, he is more explosive than Ulis, slightly taller and has 25lbs on him.

Meeks was just as athletic. Same height, i don't know about wingspan because I haven't looked but people are forgetting he put up 54 as a jr. And ulis has the same measurables as Thomas except weight.

And even if Ulis falls short of Thomas, he can be very effective. I think most people still don't get how good Thomas is.

Meeks' 6'4.5 wingspan was definitely a limiting factor for him. Hield's 6'8.5 doesn't have that problem. It's a huge difference.

Yep it is, it still doesnt make him Bradley Beal.

[Ruzious]

Meeks was just as athletic. Same height, i don't know about wingspan because I haven't looked but people are forgetting he put up 54 as a jr. And ulis has the same measurables as Thomas except weight.

And even if Ulis falls short of Thomas, he can be very effective. I think most people still don't get how good Thomas is.

Meeks' 6'4.5 wingspan was definitely a limiting factor for him. Hield's 6'8.5 doesn't have that problem. It's a huge difference.

Yep it is, it still doesnt make him Bradley Beal.

Actually, Beal has about the same wingspan as Hield. Beal's an interesting subject. He's a talented player who looks the part, but he's been considerably overrated as a pro. The elephant in the room with Beal is his poor ball-handling - just as bad as Hield's. Still, Beal's likely going to get a max contract - an indication of how the NBA value's a good young 3 point marksman.

[NuggetsWY]

Sleeper? Some of the people being talked about are listed on everyone's Mock Draft Board. The original post was about players that might get into the first-round or might get into the lottery --- MIGHT!

I'm going to list one for each position:
C -- AJ Hammons --- Blocks shots, rebounds, offense is fair
PF- Zach Auguste --- He seems to catch everything near him and rebounds pretty good
SF- Sviatoslav Mykkailiuk -- I think he can shoot over about anyone and he can create his own shot - fair defense
SG- James Blackmon --- Scorer & Shooter mean different things and this guy can do both (great wingspan too)
PG- Kay Felder --- Might be my biggest long-shot but this guy is very smart and sees everything, good passer can shoot from long range and can create his own shot

[TheGoodDoctor]

I feel like despite the attention he does receive that Ulis is a sleeper because he's always projected pretty far down in the draft.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How about Shavon Shields of Nebraska as a sleeper?

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Sleeper? Some of the people being talked about are listed on everyone's Mock Draft Board. The original post was about players that might get into the first-round or might get into the lottery --- MIGHT!

I'm going to list one for each position:
C -- AJ Hammons --- Blocks shots, rebounds, offense is fair
PF- Zach Auguste --- He seems to catch everything near him and rebounds pretty good
SF- Sviatoslav Mykkailiuk -- I think he can shoot over about anyone and he can create his own shot - fair defense
SG- James Blackmon --- Scorer & Shooter mean different things and this guy can do both (great wingspan too)
PG- Kay Felder --- Might be my biggest long-shot but this guy is very smart and sees everything, good passer can shoot from long range and can create his own shot

Yeah, Blackmon also has great advanced metrics this year, at least offensively, I'm not sure why there isn't more talk about Blackmon.