Rookie Discussion Thread

Post #461 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 4:00 am

Spoiler:

Domejandro wrote:
Piecake wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Man, I know I am having recency bias, but this could wind up being the greatest draft class of all-time; the amount of talent is unreal. Beating out 2003 (just sheer star power) and 1984 (literally everything) is difficult, but this Draft has a legitimate chance of doing it.

Who do you think are potential future hall of famers from this class?

I feel Karl Anthony-Towns is potentially going to be the greatest big-man in NBA history. I am astonishingly confident about that, and as a Minnesota fan, I have been whipped into chronic pessimism.

I am going to get some flak, but Jahlil has a great chance of being a super-star in this league. I expect him to be a Hall-of-Fame player.

D'Angelo Russell is going to be a perennial All-Star. I don't know if he will be Hall-of-Fame, but he is in line to be a terrific player.

Given how arrogantly I was pushing Zinger as a future Super-Star during the Draft, I have too much bias to comment, haha. I still stand by my opinion.

I am not a Mario Hezonja guy, but Orlando fans seem happy with him. He is hopefully going to be a solid player for them.

I am skeptical about Willie Cauley-Steins focus, but he could develop into a defensive force.

I like Emmanuel Mudiay, he likely is not going to be a Super-Star, but he is going to turn out absolutely fine.

Stanley Johnson is a stud, he will be a multi-year All-Star.

Frank Kaminsky is going to be a very solid bench player.

Justise "My Parents Can't Spell" Winslow is already a defensive monster. I don't see a future Super-Star, but I see the ultimate NBA glue-guy. He has proved me wrong, he is a winner.

Myles Turner was a great talent I would never have been ballsy enough to select, he ran like he had glass in his shoes, haha. That said, Larry Bird absolutely gushes about him and he seems healthy. He potentially could be a Hall-Of-Fame Player.

Trey Lyles... meh, he should be an alright rotational player. He could be more, but I am not pinning massive expectations on him.

Devon Booker is my miss of the draft, he is a future Super-Star, and hopefully a Hall-Of-Fame player.

Oklahoma City fans are not shy to flaunt the erection they have for Cameron Payne. He is a Darren Collison type of player to me, which is a good pick at fourteen.

I love Rashad Vaughn, Minnesota bias, I think he is going to be very successful in this league.

Bobby Portis is a beast, he is going to be an All-Star a couple of times.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson is going to be a good rotational player during his career.

I love Tyus Jones, he is going to be an amazing back-up to Ricky in the next couple of years.

Larry Nance Jr. is actually proving to be a rotational player if he stays healthy.

Jordan Mickey has destroyed the D-League, for what that is worth.

I love Guillermo Hernangómez. I don't know if he translates, but I really hope he finds success.

Norman Powell might be a solid player.

TL;DR This Draft is loaded with quality players. The lottery is just crammed with talent, and other guys are proving to be very good. The Second Round takes the piss, but it is what it is.

Revived · Post #462 » by **Revived** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 6:56 am

Seriously, watch this clip and check out the range this kid has

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjy_q08caM[/youtube]

Look specifically at the shots this kid takes at the 35 second mark and the 50 second mark. That's a 19 year old kid taking and making those shots with ease....I don't know how often we've seen that in this league from a player at his age but I'd assume never or very rarely.

Post #463 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 7:01 am

^^^ He is unbelievable, I really wish we would have somehow swung Zach LaVine for him or Myles Turner.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #464 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 8:08 am

QUIZ wrote:
Nuggets_Talk wrote:
QUIZ wrote:Ok man he can have the award.

which award? you mean all rookie first team over winslow?

then yes, he should. hes earned it. not sure why you are so upset about it.

I'm really not and I don't pretend that I've watched the Nuggets or Jokic play. If you feel so strongly about it then ok, good luck to him.

its not really a feeling. just about the facts.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #465 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 8:11 am

Domejandro wrote:
Piecake wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Man, I know I am having recency bias, but this could wind up being the greatest draft class of all-time; the amount of talent is unreal. Beating out 2003 (just sheer star power) and 1984 (literally everything) is difficult, but this Draft has a legitimate chance of doing it.

Who do you think are potential future hall of famers from this class?

I feel Karl Anthony-Towns is potentially going to be the greatest big-man in NBA history.

Blackification · Post #466 » by **Blackification** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 8:16 am

SF88 wrote:Seriously, watch this clip and check out the range this kid has

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjy_q08caM[/youtube]

Look specifically at the shots this kid takes at the 35 second mark and the 50 second mark. That's a 19 year old kid taking and making those shots with ease....I don't know how often we've seen that in this league from a player at his age but I'd assume never or very rarely.

the three from the fed ex line where he turned around before it even went in. damn the confidence

Post #467 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 8:32 am

Nuggets_Talk wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
Piecake wrote:
Who do you think are potential future hall of famers from this class?

I feel Karl Anthony-Towns is potentially going to be the greatest big-man in NBA history.

I am unsure how my comment is really that odd, he is already arguably the second best Centre in the league right now, he is going to be an unstoppable force.

Post #468 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 9:11 am

Booker's ability off the dribble is what exceeded my expectations. To have 9 assists and multiple shots off the dribble is really impressive. That block was surprising as well.

Riko · Post #469 » by **Riko** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 9:37 am

Domejandro wrote:
Nuggets_Talk wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I feel Karl Anthony-Towns is potentially going to be the greatest big-man in NBA history.

I am unsure how my comment is really that odd, he is already arguably the second best Centre in the league right now, he is going to be an unstoppable force.

Come on, you can't really believe it. I'm a great fan of KAT but you can't say something like that after only the rookie season.

Furthermore Okafor will never be an HoF, idem Turner. Booker and Russell are good player but future HoF? It is a long shot for sure...
Bobby Portis and Stanley Johnson multi-years All Star? No way.

Jkam31 · Post #470 » by **Jkam31** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:10 pm

Slava wrote:Each time I watch Booker and Turner play I keep wondering how big of a reach the Kings selecting Cauley Stein at 5 was. Even Kaminsky at 9 seems like a reach now.

Booker would have been a huge shock and would have been mocked every day. Turner can't play with DMC, in satisfied with WCS yes Karl won't play him but he's shown his defensive powers already. What has shocked me is he is already taking and making mid range jumpers.

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fendilim · Post #471 » by **fendilim** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 2:07 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Booker's ability off the dribble is what exceeded my expectations. To have 9 assists and multiple shots off the dribble is really impressive. That block was surprising as well.

I think whats impressive about his game, other that his scoring ability, is he plays with a lot of poise for someone who just turned 19 at the beginning of the season.

Post #472 » by **Goudelock** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 2:41 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEO_0G2VJ5c[/youtube]

TheFire · Post #473 » by **TheFire** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 3:27 pm

^It's crazy how similarly he glides through the air just like his dad. The Lakers seem to be great at picking late. Clarkson at 46 last year, and Nance Jr. at 27 are both steals.

JellosJigglin · Post #474 » by **JellosJigglin** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 4:56 pm

PockyCandy wrote:
Spoiler:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEO_0G2VJ5c[/youtube]

your clip cut off at the best part

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/706677612857466882[/tweet]

Revived · Post #475 » by **Revived** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 6:59 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
Slava wrote:Each time I watch Booker and Turner play I keep wondering how big of a reach the Kings selecting Cauley Stein at 5 was. Even Kaminsky at 9 seems like a reach now.

Booker would have been a huge shock and would have been mocked every day. Turner can't play with DMC, in satisfied with WCS yes Karl won't play him but he's shown his defensive powers already. What has shocked me is he is already taking and making mid range jumpers.

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Why would he be mocked every day? He would be 10x better than Ben McClemore will ever be and he would be the ideal shooter threat to put next to Cousins who demands so many double teams. And Rondo should be able to do a good job of finding him since he has experience playing with the 2nd greatest shooter ever in Allen.

iamworthy · Post #476 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 7:46 pm

E-Balla · Post #477 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:25 pm

iamworthy wrote:

He hit a 3? Did I miss something? Are we just calling shots Currys now?

iamworthy · Post #478 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:46 pm

E-Balla wrote:
iamworthy wrote:

He hit a 3? Did I miss something? Are we just calling shots Currys now?

I'm not sure what they are calling it these days but it's like the look away three pointer. He turned around while the shot was still in the air like he knew he made it. Curry did the same thing in pre season.

iamworthy · Post #479 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:53 pm

E-Balla wrote:
iamworthy wrote:

He hit a 3? Did I miss something? Are we just calling shots Currys now?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSO_VH_9IAE[/youtube]

E-Balla · Post #480 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Mar 7, 2016 11:40 pm

iamworthy wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
iamworthy wrote:

He hit a 3? Did I miss something? Are we just calling shots Currys now?

I'm not sure what they are calling it these days but it's like the look away three pointer. He turned around while the shot was still in the air like he knew he made it. Curry did the same thing in pre season.

Come on man. Can't just go renaming things we all know that's called the Hibachi.