First Step to Recovery Is Admitting You Have a Problem

[denial]

I never start threads here because I'm kinda scared. Mods have changed a couple of hands since I first started here. You see, I'm a Suns RGMOG, so I've seen some stuff. All these years I suppose I'm too lazy to read the rules. I just see very few threads and the ones that get started are always super, like, official. Like pertaining to specific, significant, news stories. Which is good. I like it that way. Not some messy forum with a bunch of meaningless threads.

Anyways, here is the point of this thread:

THE SUNS ARE NOT A GOOD NBA BASKETBALL TEAM

We have some really promising young pieces. If you visit the minutia of my past posts, you'll see I am, and have always been, very excited about Len and freaking VERY excited about Booker. I called it day 1 and I say it now, Booker is a future SUPER star. The NBA loves them some offense, especially jump shooters. And that boy Booker, man, that stroke, smh, wow. If we trade him for ANYONE I'd be enraged furious. I'd trade him for a pre-arranged #1 draft day pick trade (if thats even allowed), and nothing else. I'd trade him for like, Steph. But nothing short of those things. Len I think has a ton of potential man he is a good basketball player. But his body... I don't know. He's bulking up right? Is it slowing him? He needs to be bigger for his health but does that affect his game? (like seriously I honestly don't know if adding muscle can slow a dude down or does the strngth speed him/compensate.)

But as a team, right now, we are very bad. I mean just very bad. We are not "almost there" or "almost made the playoffs" or anything positive like that. We are just a really bad NBA basketball team. Soak it in. Admit it. Own it. Then, we can start the healing process, together.

[MrMiyagi]

Really? I still think we've got a good shot at getting a ring this season.

[MathiasPW]

Noooooooooooo!

[saintEscaton]

This board is turning into a 12 Step Program. Its official

[bwgood77]

I never start threads here because I'm kinda scared. Mods have changed a couple of hands since I first started here. You see, I'm a Suns RGMOG, so I've seen some stuff. All these years I suppose I'm too lazy to read the rules. I just see very few threads and the ones that get started are always super, like, official. Like pertaining to specific, significant, news stories. Which is good. I like it that way. Not some messy forum with a bunch of meaningless threads.

Anyways, here is the point of this thread:

THE SUNS ARE NOT A GOOD NBA BASKETBALL TEAM

We have some really promising young pieces. If you visit the minutia of my past posts, you'll see I am, and have always been, very excited about Len and freaking VERY excited about Booker. I called it day 1 and I say it now, Booker is a future SUPER star. The NBA loves them some offense, especially jump shooters. And that boy Booker, man, that stroke, smh, wow. If we trade him for ANYONE I'd be enraged furious. I'd trade him for a pre-arranged #1 draft day pick trade (if thats even allowed), and nothing else. I'd trade him for like, Steph. But nothing short of those things. Len I think has a ton of potential man he is a good basketball player. But his body... I don't know. He's bulking up right? Is it slowing him? He needs to be bigger for his health but does that affect his game? (like seriously I honestly don't know if adding muscle can slow a dude down or does the strngth speed him/compensate.)

But as a team, right now, we are very bad. I mean just very bad. We are not "almost there" or "almost made the playoffs" or anything positive like that. We are just a really bad NBA basketball team. Soak it in. Admit it. Own it. Then, we can start the healing process, together.

So, what you're saying is that denial is NOT in denial?

I agree. Even when we were healthy we were not good. And as I just mentioned in another post, playing our two bigs together will likely only work well against teams that have limited spacing and can't shoot (Orlando, Memphis, Minnesota, etc) so, although these wins have been somewhat impressive, even against a shell of a Memphis team and Orlando, I don't think we are nearly as good as we look.

But I do think we have some nice pieces and can add some nice picks. The key will be finding a four for next year. If we want to continue the rebuild, and play a rookie there, or try and get a young guy to plug in there, I am all for continuing to develop the young guys, and not have such a huge focus on the playoffs for one more year. If our young guys take us there, great.

But if we want to try and make the playoffs next year (I'm sure that is going to be the goal), we either need to find that 4, or we will have to go with the 2 big lineup or play Tucker or Warren at the 4 at times. I know Tucker is hated, but I kind of like him at the 4. He has a decent outside shot and can defend just about anyone, and provides team energy. Like most, I'd rather at some point trade him for value, but if the goal is playoffs, and we are really competing, giving him some minutes at 4 is fine if we can't find a good 4 in FA.

Starting threads is fine. It's not like there are a ton of posters around these days, and any new discussions are welcome.

[Gorilla Warfare]

The irony of your post and your username. I can't take it.

[saintEscaton]

The irony of your post and your username. I can't take it.

[MathiasPW]

[MathiasPW]

[bwgood77]

[RaisingArizona]

[Amareca]

I call total bull on this.

We have three of our top players injured all year, Markieff disapearing act, injuries to Price, Chandler..

Sure we are not close to SA or GSW. But beyond that the rest of the NBA is not so far apart when we are healthy.

Compare our healthy team on paper with for instance the Raptors... Or Grizzlies..

Next season with a good draft, health, free agency and internal improvement we can be in the playoff race. Without mortgaging our future or becoming a treadmill team.
After the draft we should have enough talent accumulated to build a contender without tanking.

We are not Lakers/Sixers bad.

[Mulhollanddrive]

It's so hard to not be mediocre (20 teams a year really have no shot of anything), that when you're stuck there you start thinking being 15th best team isn't that bad.