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Re: RE: Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#101 » by cedric76 » Fri Mar 4, 2016 6:52 pm

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cedric76 wrote:Ok you are happy, he got pt. So what now? Do we carry on with this 'great shooter' that can't score open shot??
He isn't ready yet, lets hope he 'll be better next season

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This is what is so asinine about people who think Mario shouldn't be getting more playing time.

They think if he's given minutes that he should be playing at his full potential. :banghead:

C'mon cedric. You should be better than this. It's not about him being 100% ready now to fulfill all his promise. It's about him getting the chance to get better in live games. It's about speeding up his development. At worst, it's not like we're risking winning games because he's playing more minutes. So I don't even buy the "we're trying to win now, that's why he needs to be benched" mantra.

Cedric is french and has a big boner for Fournier. Mario is a threat to that boner.

Lol, no boner for Evan at all, I actually wouldn't give him the max.
As for Mario, he isn't ready , this is a fact, he has a lot of holes in his game, this is normal for a rookie, not hating on him, just stating the obvious, he can't get a pass just because he is a rookie and might be our future leader.
You guys r too impatient, even Mario understand that, why can't you

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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#102 » by Bensational » Fri Mar 4, 2016 10:09 pm

stop with the "Mario isn't ready" lines. it's the same as the people who said AG "wasn't ready".

they're ready. they're playing, they're starting, and we're winning. and, we're still able to bench them at appropriate times to reinforce messages.

they're ready.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#103 » by Von Bismarck » Sat Mar 5, 2016 2:19 am

Mario as a starter (4 games)

28 minutes per game;

12 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

0,75 TO
0,75 STL

59% for 2
39% for 3
100% FT

But he's not ready!
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#104 » by Dennis Reynolds » Sat Mar 5, 2016 3:43 am

Von Bismarck wrote:Mario as a starter (4 games)

28 minutes per game;

12 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

0,75 TO
0,75 STL

59% for 2
39% for 3
100% FT

But he's not ready!


Bench him and AG. Start Marble!
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#105 » by LacosteM » Sat Mar 5, 2016 8:46 am

The way that Mario got ignored by his teammates (especially in the 1st half) was embarrasing as hell.

This play especially stood out.

http://on.nba.com/1VXMecs

Here Fournier would rather shoot a contested step-back 3 than kick it to an open Mario.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#106 » by SaberT » Sat Mar 5, 2016 10:10 am

LacosteM wrote:The way that Mario got ignored by his teammates (especially in the 1st half) was embarrasing as hell.

This play especially stood out.

http://on.nba.com/1VXMecs

Here Fournier would rather shoot a contested step-back 3 than kick it to an open Mario.

Yeah, this play is prime example. I'd say Fournier is much more prone to do this than say Oladipo. Fournier really has two options and offense and one of it is feed the Vooch. His second option is shoot or drive himself. There is no third option.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#107 » by pepe1991 » Sat Mar 5, 2016 11:40 am

F Fournier and Vuc and their buddyball . They ignore 3 other players and play 2 on 5 every time.
Vučevic is probably worst starting defender in the league along OKafor.

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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#108 » by zelenooq » Mon Mar 7, 2016 2:38 am

Foul,refs said -.-
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#109 » by pinoynurse » Mon Mar 7, 2016 5:06 am

Von Bismarck wrote:Mario as a starter (4 games)

28 minutes per game;

12 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

0,75 TO
0,75 STL

59% for 2
39% for 3
100% FT

But he's not ready!


offense was never an issue with him. skiles made that point clear in multiple interviews. its his defense that needs improvement. he has gotten better in that end and i hope it continues
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#110 » by zelenooq » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:04 pm

pinoynurse wrote:
Von Bismarck wrote:Mario as a starter (4 games)

28 minutes per game;

12 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

0,75 TO
0,75 STL

59% for 2
39% for 3
100% FT

But he's not ready!


offense was never an issue with him. skiles made that point clear in multiple interviews. its his defense that needs improvement. he has gotten better in that end and i hope it continues

as i see he is better defender than fournier right now
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Re: RE: Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#111 » by cedric76 » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:53 pm

zelenooq wrote:
pinoynurse wrote:
Von Bismarck wrote:Mario as a starter (4 games)

28 minutes per game;

12 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

0,75 TO
0,75 STL

59% for 2
39% for 3
100% FT

But he's not ready!


offense was never an issue with him. skiles made that point clear in multiple interviews. its his defense that needs improvement. he has gotten better in that end and i hope it continues

as i see he is better defender than fournier right now

Ok , 3 2 1 .... Let's all remove our homer glasses

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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#112 » by KillMonger » Mon Mar 7, 2016 9:33 pm

Let's not..... They both are bad, fournier is just slightly less so
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#113 » by seeingstars » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:18 pm

I say keep starting Mario for a few reasons:

1. Hell be a mainstay startee sooner or later anyways.
2. Lower Evan's profile in hopes to keep his value realistic for our team matching.
3. Mario plays better alongside players that know how to move the ball, not blackholes such as smith and jennings.
4. He stretches the floor for our slashers.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#114 » by Von Bismarck » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:21 pm

Immature Luigi wrote:Let's not..... They both are bad, fournier is just slightly less so


But the thing is, if Mario continues to get better, as he really is doing and there's no reason he won't do it in the future, he'll be above average defensively in his 4th season for sure.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#115 » by OrlandoDream » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:29 pm

Evan is about to finish his 4th season while Mario is still in his rookie. Are we really saying that 3 years from now, Mario will not play better defense or be a better and more efficient shooter than Fournier? :-?
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#116 » by Von Bismarck » Mon Mar 7, 2016 10:56 pm

OrlandoDream wrote:Evan is about to finish his 4th season while Mario is still in his rookie. Are we really saying that 3 years from now, Mario will not play better defense or be a better and more efficient shooter than Fournier? :-?


For now Fournier shoots better for 3 and plays better D. Mario has him in terms of court vision, passing, free throws and athleticism (for example leaping ability and agility).

I expect Mario to be a good two way player already next season. I see him reaching his prime in his 4th or 5th year and that should last for about 6 years or something like that.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#117 » by LacosteM » Tue Mar 8, 2016 7:36 am

I say start Mario.

Payton/Oladipo/Hezonja/Gordon/Vucevic lineup is posting +21.8 in 64 mins they played togetger. Hezonja's TS% is 60 when he gets to play with those guys and Oladipo's TS% is increased to when Fournier is being replaced with Mario. With the productivity it has shown in these limited mins(especially Bulls game) and with team playing with nothing to lose I don't see why this lineup couldn't get a shot. Numbers are clearly indicating that Hezonja, Victor and AG's efficiency are profiting because of the ball movement this lineup brings. Either way I don't see Fournier having a future with this franchise, and even if he stays he'll most likely be coming off the bench. He might aswell be coming of the bench now.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#118 » by Gordon » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:01 pm

I must say i am slightly disappointed with his rookie campaign. I thought he would struggle out of the gate, but was hoping to see significant improvement by March/April, which hasn`t materialized. We have seen glimpses, and he has the tools to be a starter in this league, but there is also possiblity of him turning into McLemore/Lamb based on his advanced stats projections.
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#119 » by CroAnon » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:29 pm

Haven't been able to watch last few games because of west coast trip and timezones...

How's Mario's game been looking in last 3 games and what do you think is the reason for his latest bad shooting. Just a slump, bad shot selection, rookie wall considering his seasons in Barcelona, is it physical or mental... ?
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Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#120 » by KillMonger » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:13 pm

Gordon wrote:I must say i am slightly disappointed with his rookie campaign. I thought he would struggle out of the gate, but was hoping to see significant improvement by March/April, which hasn`t materialized. We have seen glimpses, and he has the tools to be a starter in this league, but there is also possiblity of him turning into McLemore/Lamb based on his advanced stats projections.

well, it hasnt been consistent for him....his game or his playing time which have both been uneven....he had the bad luck of playing under a coach where his playing time is strictly decided by only what he does on the defensive end no matter how he looks offensively. Hes been a trooper though, hes keeping his mouth shut going to work and doing what he should do....his development was definitely slowed/stunted but hopefully he can gain a lot during the offseason.
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