Kyrie Irving would rather play somewhere else

[Jamaaliver]

Many seemed to ignore the original article and assumed things are fine. The latest indicates that there is a poor rekatuo ship and that Irving will want out this off season.

Yes. The writing is on the wall in Cleveland. LeBron would be better suited finding some proven, veteran performers to assist him in his championship pursuits...

Something we have in spades.


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[ATLHawksfan21]

If Lebron wants to win another title, he needs to look in the mirror way before he starts blaming others. His refusal to adapt to a more team-oriented offense is killing that team. That fool insists on jacking up poor shots outside when he is one of the worst jumpshooters in the league.

[PandaKidd]

Lebron is getting to be like RG3 IMO. Just way to big for his britches. Hes upset Curry and GSW are better, so he blames everyone else. The difference is there is no CHECK in place like Wade/Riley to make him see the bigger picture.

Hell continue to play GM and continue to hold CLE hostage.

[Jamaaliver]

Lebron is getting to be like RG3 IMO. Just way to big for his britches. Hes upset Curry and GSW are better, so he blames everyone else. The difference is there is no CHECK in place like Wade/Riley to make him see the bigger picture.

Hell continue to play GM and continue to hold CLE hostage.

Wow.

It's amazing how much the perception of a team/player can change in a few months.

First place in the conference. Five straight Conference Championships including two NBA championships along the way...now he's being compared to a backup QB who's never accomplished anything?

Just...wow.

[hawkschop1]

When will yall learn the Hawks will not do anything sexy? Ever. Is Kyrie even coach-able?

[HMFFL]

Lebron is getting to be like RG3 IMO. Just way to big for his britches. Hes upset Curry and GSW are better, so he blames everyone else. The difference is there is no CHECK in place like Wade/Riley to make him see the bigger picture.

Hell continue to play GM and continue to hold CLE hostage.

I think it's understandable why Lebron would be upset that Golden State and Curry are receiving more attention. It's natural but it also hurts Bron's wallet that he's not the most popular player at the moment. Curry has outsold Lebron, Irving, Rose, and Durant combined in shoes too.
I have been pulling for GS because it keeps the media from discussing Lebron as much, but I also just like what GS is doing, and I have always been a Curry fan. I never expected him to take over like he's proven to do. I liked Harden as the best 2 guard in the draft.

Comparing him to RG3 is probably reaching. RG3 was never good enough to act the way he did, Lebron is.

[PandaKidd]

Lebron is getting to be like RG3 IMO. Just way to big for his britches. Hes upset Curry and GSW are better, so he blames everyone else. The difference is there is no CHECK in place like Wade/Riley to make him see the bigger picture.

Hell continue to play GM and continue to hold CLE hostage.

Wow.

It's amazing how much the perception of a team/player can change in a few months.

First place in the conference. Five straight Conference Championships including two NBA championships along the way...now he's being compared to a backup QB who's never accomplished anything?

Just...wow.

not careers, attitude, perception.

Cmon dont try and characterize me as a LBJ hater, im the furthest thing from it. But cryptic tweets? Hes done this for the last 2 years. Last year were shots at Love, this year its KI. I mean Lebron has gotten EVERYTHING HE WANTS in CLE. And now its I HAVE TO CARRY THIS TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS (YOU MEAN THE TEAM YOU PICKED???)

Hes not the same player he was last year. He is shooting worse, hes not posting up, he doesnt play the same defense, now theres rumors of animosity with KI (reported by Windhorst not some Sports Take Blog).

I meant Lebron is becoming about as annoying as RG3. ME ME ME ME ME , everyone elses fault, etc. Im starting to feel toward LBJ like i feel toward RG3. Thats where the comparison ends.

I think hes pissed off that GSW/Curry are going to keep him from winning a championship. Hes not good enough to beat them by himself, and hes not the leader he thinks he is.

[PandaKidd]

Lebron is getting to be like RG3 IMO. Just way to big for his britches. Hes upset Curry and GSW are better, so he blames everyone else. The difference is there is no CHECK in place like Wade/Riley to make him see the bigger picture.

Hell continue to play GM and continue to hold CLE hostage.

I think it's understandable why Lebron would be upset that Golden State and Curry are receiving more attention. It's natural but it also hurts Bron's wallet that he's not the most popular player at the moment. Curry has outsold Lebron, Irving, Rose, and Durant combined in shoes too.
I have been pulling for GS because it keeps the media from discussing Lebron as much, but I also just like what GS is doing, and I have always been a Curry fan. I never expected him to take over like he's proven to do. I liked Harden as the best 2 guard in the draft.

Comparing him to RG3 is probably reaching. RG3 was never good enough to act the way he did, Lebron is.

Currys shoes are $110-120 vs Lebrons $200-250 (depending on ELITE or not)

Lebron 13s were WILDLY accepted to be the ugliest shoe hes ever released. It was never accepted, the AJ 30 I will almost bet would outsell him.

Kobe they totally punted this years shoes because of his retirement. They havent sold well.

Irving shoes have never been popular.

Rose hasnt been popular in 4 years.

Durant, havent been popular since the KD4/5.

(Im kind of a shoe freak )

I mean YES Curry has sold shoes because of who he is, but UA only sells HIS SHOE, his is the ONLY popular model that people even talk about. I would bet the Curry 2 is NOT OUTSELLING the Lebron/KD though. I bet those figures were the Curry 1 vs the Lebron 12 (also a very dissapointing shoe)

[Jamaaliver]

Cmon dont try and characterize me as a LBJ hater, im the furthest thing from it.

I meant Lebron is becoming about as annoying as RG3. ME ME ME ME ME , everyone elses fault, etc.
I think hes pissed off that GSW/Curry are going to keep him from winning a championship. Hes not good enough to beat them by himself, and hes not the leader he thinks he is.

I get what you mean. And my frustration isn't with you specifically as much as it is with the narrative surrounding these guys nowadays. I consider myself fortunate that I was able to watch Magic Johnson, M Jordan, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James all in their primes.

All great players, maybe the four best I ever saw play...

All divas, prima donnas and glory hogs.

• Magic got a coach fired in 1981. His teammates got Pat Riley fired years later.
• Jordan rebelled against Phil Jackson in the early days, was rumored to be the reason Doug Collins was fired, regularly broke out of the triangle offense and on multiple occasions got into fist fights with teammates...in practice.
• Kobe was a ballhog, feuded with Shaq, ignored constructive criticism and was pretty unbearable teammate as well.

Shaq was lazy. Iverson hated practice.

All of these kids are petulant, spoiled brats. Always have been. The only thing different today than 25 years ago is the scrutiny. Whereas reporters knew of Jordan's gambling and philandering...it largely went unreported. Magic literally slept with hundreds of girls...even through his marriage. And it was swept under the rug by the media (mostly) until his HIV diagnosis.

LeBron has tension with a teammate... and suddenly it's on the 24 hour news cycle...because that's what ESPN, FoxSports, Sports Illustrated do. They take minor things and run them over and over again. They decide who to love (Steph, Peyton) and who to hate (Dwight, Tom Brady).

LBJ is the same spoiled diva he was ten years ago, the same one from 'The Decision' telecast 6 years ago. But his team is #1 in the East. #3 in the league. On pace for more wins than last season. On pace for home court through the Conference Finals.


This minor blip in a 6 month long regular season is nothing. But, ultimately, it's LBJ who gets judged by history every time his team fails to add another ring.

LBJ wants to win. he is a diva. He is spoiled. But he's no more or less than any of the other greats who experienced the same issues along the way.

His team just lacks the strong Front Office leadership and respected coaches that all the other great ones had...and as a result he gets all the flack.

[jayu70]

I think the difference with LeBron is that he never takes ownership of losses. It's always somebody elses fault more often than not.

[Jamaaliver]

I think the difference with LeBron is that he never takes ownership of losses. It's always somebody elses fault more often than not.

But is he wrong?

CLE went from worst team in the East to 2 games from a NBA Title. All on the back of LBJ. Despite inexperienced teammates. Despite an underwhelming coach.

Lebron James is the reason CLE is a contender. Point Blank.

If he retired tomorrow. CLE might not win a single post season game. And they'd be back in the lottery next season.

And again, the losses have been few and far between for him. They're in first place.

[PandaKidd]

Um, im as old as you are ( I think) and magic/kobe/jordan never blamed teammates or sent out subtle tweets or pics aimed at shaming their teammates.

Jordan punched Kerr, and we didnt hear about it until years later.

I know social media is different animal now, but , Lebron isnt the mental compoetitor that ANY of those guys you listed are/were.

[PandaKidd]

I feel like Lebron got by on sheer talent and physicality. Now thats not good enough because there are people better than him talent wise or equal.

[jayu70]

I think the difference with LeBron is that he never takes ownership of losses. It's always somebody elses fault more often than not.

But is he wrong?

CLE went from worst team in the East to 2 games from a NBA Title. All on the back of LBJ. Despite inexperienced teammates. Despite an underwhelming coach.

Lebron James is the reason CLE is a contender. Point Blank.

If he retired tomorrow. CLE might not win a single post season game. And they'd be back in the lottery next season.

And again, the losses have been few and far between for him. They're in first place.

It's not a matter of him being wrong or right, it's all in how he has handled it compared to guys like Magic, Bird and MJ.

[Jamaaliver]

It's not a matter of him being wrong or right, it's all in how he has handled it compared to guys like Magic, Bird and MJ.

THAT...is an excellent point.

[Jamaaliver]

Um, im as old as you are ( I think) and magic/kobe/jordan never blamed teammates or sent out subtle tweets or pics aimed at shaming their teammates.

Jordan punched Kerr, and we didnt hear about it until years later.

I know social media is different animal now, but , Lebron isnt the mental compoetitor that ANY of those guys you listed are/were.

Yeah, we're pretty close in age. (I was born in late 70s)

And I didn't mean to hijack the thread or anything. I just think all these guys grew up in the spotlight. All made mistakes. All received criticism...fair and unfairly. But the 24 hour news coverage of today adds scrutiny that didn't exist for certain guys.

But hearing that LBJ and KI are on the outs just seems like ESPN over saturation. Creating drama. Cavs are still tops in the Conference, on pace for more wins than the previous year. This lack of chemistry is till nowhere as volatile as the Kobe-Shaq feud 12 years ago. Now THAT was petty and juvenile.

Jordan also punched Will Perdue. For setting hard screens in practice. But my point was that teammates fight. A lot. It's how it gets presented by the media after the fact that shapes the public perception.


And Kobe was a terrible teammate.

Kobe can be consumed with surprising anger, which he's displayed toward me and toward his teammates....He rebels against authority

Here

Jackson states that the Lakers suspended talks over a contract extension after he shouted to General Manager Mitch Kupchak "I won't coach this team next year if [Bryant] is still here. He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid." According to Jackson, in Bryant's exit interview with him he stated that O'Neal's fate with the Lakers would affect his decision to return, saying "I'm tired of being a sidekick."


All these guys are prima donnas. The difference is twitter is now around to document every second of it.

[HMFFL]

Why would Lebron openly take fault for his team when the media and majority of the fans always blame his teammates? It's always is fellow teammates or management for not adding more all-stars to the team, never Lebron's fault.

[CoachD]

KI is not mediocre, KI isnt ovverrated. Hes a top 5 PG in the league. Hes a pure scorer. Hes also got a bit of an ego (as most PGs do).

Teague and MIllsap for KI and YOU WOULD PASS? ARE YOU INSANE? I cant believe i just read that. MIllsap is an EXPIRING come next year, and so is Teague. Id do that deal in a heartbeat. KI is 10 times the player either of those guys are, and I LOVE MILLSAP , but hes 30 and aging.

KI does have some red flags with his injury history. for sure. Problem is he would fit here because DS wouldnt play second fiddle anymore. Unless he wants to play the 2 guard.

Keep in mind the coaches that KI has played for. Keep in mind the team he has been on before last year. Defense is a concern but not a deal breaker

Top 5 pg?

He's not better than Curry, Paul, Lillard, Lowry or Westbrook. How is he top 5?

Defensively, he is one of the worst guards in the NBA - and that's with a guy like LeBron behind him, and decent defensive 2s that try to take the load off of him.

[PandaKidd]

Put KI on the Blazers with no other options. I put him ahead of Lillard personally. Remember this is his AFTER INJURY year which historically sees lower numbers. Its called the LOST YEAR for a reason.

[PandaKidd]

Um, im as old as you are ( I think) and magic/kobe/jordan never blamed teammates or sent out subtle tweets or pics aimed at shaming their teammates.

Jordan punched Kerr, and we didnt hear about it until years later.

I know social media is different animal now, but , Lebron isnt the mental compoetitor that ANY of those guys you listed are/were.

Yeah, we're pretty close in age. (I was born in late 70s)

And I didn't mean to hijack the thread or anything. I just think all these guys grew up in the spotlight. All made mistakes. All received criticism...fair and unfairly. But the 24 hour news coverage of today adds scrutiny that didn't exist for certain guys.

But hearing that LBJ and KI are on the outs just seems like ESPN over saturation. Creating drama. Cavs are still tops in the Conference, on pace for more wins than the previous year. This lack of chemistry is till nowhere as volatile as the Kobe-Shaq feud 12 years ago. Now THAT was petty and juvenile.

Jordan also punched Will Perdue. For setting hard screens in practice. But my point was that teammates fight. A lot. It's how it gets presented by the media after the fact that shapes the public perception.


And Kobe was a terrible teammate.

Kobe can be consumed with surprising anger, which he's displayed toward me and toward his teammates....He rebels against authority

Here

Jackson states that the Lakers suspended talks over a contract extension after he shouted to General Manager Mitch Kupchak "I won't coach this team next year if [Bryant] is still here. He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid." According to Jackson, in Bryant's exit interview with him he stated that O'Neal's fate with the Lakers would affect his decision to return, saying "I'm tired of being a sidekick."


All these guys are prima donnas. The difference is twitter is now around to document every second of it.

again, the difference is Lebron isnt handling his BUSINESS on the court.

Hes going on on Twitter and subtly jabbing at teammates.