Signed By Indiana - The Jeremy Lamb Thread

[Zombiesonics]

Advanced stats are less meaningful for 15 MPG role players that only play against second units.

He plays 20 mpg ( I know recently it's 15 mpg, so that discounts the first three months( half) of the season?) him and Ginobili are the only bench players with a presence on these lists. So if raw stats and advanced stats are inapplicable to lamb, I'm guessing only the eye test matters huh... How come there aren't a ton( read more than 2) of sg's on second units with good numbers if they all are going to town vs opposing second units?

Look lambs individual defense stinks but it doesn't outweigh his impact as an ABOVE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE player period. He's also friggin 23. The idea that posters on here are dissapointed in him is truly bizzare, but not surprising considering how badly you guys wanted to off Kemba until this season.

[yosemiteben]

Disappointment would require high expectations. I'm not disappointed, or I guess I'm only slightly disappointed because I thought he'd have a higher 3PT% than PJ (which he hasn't on the season), I just think he needs to work on his defense and perimeter shooting.

He's young and has nice potential. He also is clearly behind Batum, Lin, and Lee as rotation options, and he doesn't need more minutes.

[Braggins]

Its almost like he has hit the "rookie" wall, which kind of makes sense considering this is his first season as a regular rotation player and hes basically the same age as Frank. Hes talented and coachable, so I expect some decent improvement over the next few years.

[catch20two]

He's played well this season. Just need to improve his 3pt shooting and defensive hustle in the offseason. Sporting a 17 PER, the same TS% as Batum at .537, and a better DBPM than Lin. He's as good of a bench wing if not the best we've had in my 5 years of watching this team.

[JDR720]

Its almost like he has hit the "rookie" wall, which kind of makes sense considering this is his first season as a regular rotation player and hes basically the same age as Frank. Hes talented and coachable, so I expect some decent improvement over the next few years.

can you really say this is his first year as regular rotation player? he played 78 games his 2nd year at 19.7mpg that is the same as he is getting here. his stats are pretty similar too.

[UNCNYC]

WTF is a "RUSTLER"? Sounds like a porno star. To top it off his name is JEREMY smdh

[mrknowitall215]

He's played well this season. Just need to improve his 3pt shooting and defensive hustle in the offseason. Sporting a 17 PER, the same TS% as Batum at .537, and a better DBPM than Lin. He's as good of a bench wing if not the best we've had in my 5 years of watching this team.

This. I felt more compelled to put out my disdain for Lamb not playing as much when Hairston was on the roster. Hairston was a negative net offensively and defensively across the board. I never understood why he and Lamb split minutes

[yosemiteben]

He's played well this season. Just need to improve his 3pt shooting and defensive hustle in the offseason. Sporting a 17 PER, the same TS% as Batum at .537, and a better DBPM than Lin. He's as good of a bench wing if not the best we've had in my 5 years of watching this team.

Chop off Lamb's killer November and his TS% for the rest of the season drops to 50.1%. His 60% TS% in November was fantastic, but we haven't seen that version of Lamb since then.

[catch20two]

He's played well this season. Just need to improve his 3pt shooting and defensive hustle in the offseason. Sporting a 17 PER, the same TS% as Batum at .537, and a better DBPM than Lin. He's as good of a bench wing if not the best we've had in my 5 years of watching this team.

Chop off Lamb's killer November and his TS% for the rest of the season drops to 50.1%. His 60% TS% in November was fantastic, but we haven't seen that version of Lamb since then.

Eh chop off Batum's November and he's been a poor 3pt shooter all season. You have to take it in as a whole.

[catch20two]

So I guess you can say the same for Batum huh Yosemite? Lol

[catch20two]

Don't even get me started on the low TS% of Lin or even Hairston. Lol

[yosemiteben]

He's played well this season. Just need to improve his 3pt shooting and defensive hustle in the offseason. Sporting a 17 PER, the same TS% as Batum at .537, and a better DBPM than Lin. He's as good of a bench wing if not the best we've had in my 5 years of watching this team.

Chop off Lamb's killer November and his TS% for the rest of the season drops to 50.1%. His 60% TS% in November was fantastic, but we haven't seen that version of Lamb since then.

Eh chop off Batum's November and he's been a poor 3pt shooter all season. You have to take it in as a whole.

I agree, they've both been underwhelming in their scoring efficiency. Batum brings much more to the table besides that, whereas Lamb does not.

[yosemiteben]

So I guess you can say the same for Batum huh Yosemite? Lol

Exactly, Batum's primary value to this team is not efficient scoring, it's playmaking and directing traffic on the floor. Batum is also a much better defender and just an all around far superior player.

[catch20two]

So I guess you can say the same for Batum huh Yosemite? Lol

Exactly, Batum's primary value to this team is not efficient scoring, it's playmaking and directing traffic on the floor. Batum is also a much better defender and just an all around far superior player.

I'm about to do a lookup of how Lamb has faired playing with starters since you love to use the attribution that he's only been productive against backups.

[yosemiteben]

I'm about to do a lookup of how Lamb has faired playing with starters since you love to use the attribution that he's only been productive against backups.

Do it, would be interested to see. Will have about as much weight though as Lin fans pointing to his starting numbers compared to his backup numbers.

I was surprised to learn Lamb has a 50% TS since December started, thought it would be higher than that.

[catch20two]

Sadly Lamb has only played 45 minutes with the regular starters of Kemba, Batum, Marv, and Zeller all season but the results is totally positive on both ends of the ball. The teams ORating is 106.5 and DRating is 93.9 with a positive net rating of 12.6.

Why doesn't this group play together more? Because mythically, mystically, and mysteriously somewhere between them outplaying their opponent Lamb has held them back. Lol

[yosemiteben]

You know what they say about sample sizes. 45 minutes over 60 games is not exactly meaningful data.

[catch20two]

You know what they say about sample sizes. 45 minutes over 60 games is not exactly meaningful data.

I already know it's a small sample size which sticks to my point that nobody know how well or not he'd play with our starters against other starters but all signs point towards the team being successful in that aspect outside of Cliff giving him quick yanks for players that have had less success in that aspect a la Hairston (maybe Lin, maybe Lee). I just dislike hearing people say the that they're disappointed in him and saying things like I understand why he's not playing many minutes if he hasn't been a detriment to the team in basically no areas, just his minutes have been limited in to coach's decision in which Cliff has his right even if I disagree with it a bit.

Lamb has faired well this season and I'm looking forward to his improvements this offseason all the while hoping Cliff give him a longer leash going into these playoffs because I believe he give us a better chance to win when he get a consistent 20-25 minutes on the floor.

[catch20two]

I'm about to look up our win percentage on games in which he's played over 20 minutes.

[catch20two]

We are only 13-12 in games with Lamb playing over 20 minutes with him averaging 13 points on 49% shooting, 2 assist, and 6 rebounds. Not too impressive but not too shabby either considering that only 1 of those games is post-Hairston weighing us down to a sub .500 record and was a win against the Bucks with him scoring 14 in 23 minutes on 60% shooting.