Buddy Hield

[Duke4life831]

Is he a good slasher because looking at some highlights he's able to get into the paint and make some good passes. That gives me the impression that he can do more on offense than run off screens and shoot.

I don't want to say he's James Harden because Harden was a better slasher and passer coming out of college while Buddy is the better shooter, but Buddy can be molded into one of the best scoring SGs in the league with his skillset.

Buddy makes 4.2 shots a game inside of the 3 point line at a 53% clip. JJ made 4.5 shots a game inside 3 point line at a 52% clip. Buddy has a somewhat limited handle. I don't see his driving ability transferring to the NBA. It's much easier to drive at the college level than at the NBA level. That's why I brought up JJ's numbers, Buddy relies a lot more on the 3 point shot than JJ did as a senior, JJ attempted about 1 more 2 point shot and 2 more free throws a game than Buddy. Buddy looks like he is going to be just a run off screens and catch and shoot guy.

[H2tObes]

I don't think age matters too much with Hield. Fact of the matter is the guy can play basketball at an extraordinary level and has gotten better every year.

[Prez]

I love his skill set for the Bucks. We have regularly looked our smoothest when we have a rangy SG (Mayo, Vaughn) slotted at point but run the offense through Giannis/Middleton/Jabari as point forwards. All we need Buddy to do is move without the ball, torch teams on catch and shoots, off screens, etc. Maybe occasionally create off the dribble but for the most part he'd just be bringing the ball up and initiating. At 6'4" and athletic I'm sure we'd be fine with him guarding PGs.

[NuggetsWY]

Is he a good slasher because looking at some highlights he's able to get into the paint and make some good passes. That gives me the impression that he can do more on offense than run off screens and shoot.

I don't want to say he's James Harden because Harden was a better slasher and passer coming out of college while Buddy is the better shooter, but Buddy can be molded into one of the best scoring SGs in the league with his skillset.

Buddy makes 4.2 shots a game inside of the 3 point line at a 53% clip. JJ made 4.5 shots a game inside 3 point line at a 52% clip. Buddy has a somewhat limited handle. I don't see his driving ability transferring to the NBA. It's much easier to drive at the college level than at the NBA level. That's why I brought up JJ's numbers, Buddy relies a lot more on the 3 point shot than JJ did as a senior, JJ attempted about 1 more 2 point shot and 2 more free throws a game than Buddy. Buddy looks like he is going to be just a run off screens and catch and shoot guy.

Korver isn't much of a slasher either - but when your game is that good in one aspect, another aspect doesn't matter so much. Ray Allen was not a slasher, neither was Reggie Miller, and the list goes on. Some good slash a little, but they weren't good at it.

[No-Man]

Ray Allen was miles ahead as an athlete compared to Hield, people dont remember him playing with the Bucks or Sonics where he was a franchise perimeter player that played a ton on the ball as well, same with Miller, people only remember their last years when they played mostly as spot-up shooters, and nothing more.
The difference is, that Hield ceiling is that, and that is if his shooting fully translates, not just to a good level, lets say Ellington, Meeks, Daequan Cook, but to an elite level like those guys who are top5 shooters of all time.
All this talk is laughable honestly.

[Duke4life831]

Is he a good slasher because looking at some highlights he's able to get into the paint and make some good passes. That gives me the impression that he can do more on offense than run off screens and shoot.

I don't want to say he's James Harden because Harden was a better slasher and passer coming out of college while Buddy is the better shooter, but Buddy can be molded into one of the best scoring SGs in the league with his skillset.

Buddy makes 4.2 shots a game inside of the 3 point line at a 53% clip. JJ made 4.5 shots a game inside 3 point line at a 52% clip. Buddy has a somewhat limited handle. I don't see his driving ability transferring to the NBA. It's much easier to drive at the college level than at the NBA level. That's why I brought up JJ's numbers, Buddy relies a lot more on the 3 point shot than JJ did as a senior, JJ attempted about 1 more 2 point shot and 2 more free throws a game than Buddy. Buddy looks like he is going to be just a run off screens and catch and shoot guy.

Korver isn't much of a slasher either - but when your game is that good in one aspect, another aspect doesn't matter so much. Ray Allen was not a slasher, neither was Reggie Miller, and the list goes on. Some good slash a little, but they weren't good at it.

I'm not saying Hield can be a good player. I was comparing him to JJ who is putting up a 47/47 season while scoring 16 a game. My post was in reply to someone saying they thought he was going to be a good slasher.

[vincecarter4pres]

Something like Kris Middleton in the NBA?

[robbie84]

anyone thinking that Buddy might go #3 after his recent Iowa State performance?
For those that missed it:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLS-BcPGcY[/youtube]

[RSCD3_]

[YouTube]https://youtu.be/5w_DVvCmYAQ[/YouTube]

[NuggetsWY]

Isn't he the guy they said, "Good outside shot but not much else"???

[JMac1]

Isn't he the guy they said, "Good outside shot but not much else"???

Same thing they said about Booker. Buddy and Jamal are ballers.

[NuggetsWY]

Yeah, that Booker, just not fit for the NBA, too young, too limited --- TOO WRONG!!! ROFL

[Cruel_Ruin]

I love this kid. He's going to be special, just needs to go to the right situation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WbCMPWPFmw[/youtube]

His physical build and his shooting ability remind me a lot of Wes Matthews, but it doesn't seem like Buddy has a postgame yet. Will be good for him to develop one given his strength and limited creativity off the dribble. But if that jumper is real and not just a season-long fluke, look out.

[JMac1]

Just looked his stats, 50 40 90

[Barnsey]

Why does Hield have the reputation that he's lacking athleticism? He looks plenty athletic to me. Maybe he's not elite, but the guy is bouncy; he has nice twitch-athleticism. That first step is no lesser than someone like James Harden. Jamal Murray is someone whose lateral quickness is lacking. Hield is fine. There's no reason he can't develop into at least a decent defender if the rumours about his great work habits are true.

Look at him here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hchlU1DL6y8[/youtube]

That's athletic. The way he drives. He can even soar for blocks. And he's super fluid in his movements.

I would honestly take Hield in the top 5. That's more a testament to how weak this draft is at the top, but this guy is shooting 53.2% on 2pt jumpers while his usage is at 28.0%. That's super efficient. His TS% is 0.66 while scoring 27.4ppg per 40 pace adjusted! That's incredible. I don't care if he's 22 years old already, the dude could score 20ppg in today's pace&space / pick&roll NBA offenses. He can score off the ball or he can create for himself. And he's prolific about it. That's valuable. He's very passionate and dedicated too from what i gather. I think he has star potential on the offensive side.

[sweetcity]

I think he's one of the more solid 2G prospects in the last few years. He's not Devin Booker, but he's going to be a way better NBA player then Danny Green for example

[vincecarter4pres]

IDK what it is, but have watched him a few times lately and although his handle is much improved I feel like he doesn't know what to do with it yet.

Like he'll beat his man on the perimeter off isolation one on one using his handle and first step, then literally let his man catch back up to him when the help steps up. Maybe it's by design because he draws a defender and causes a number of switches leaving someone open for a corner three or under the basket, but I've also seen him then take a heavily contested midrange J, in the NBA he's not going to nail as many of those with the longer, rangier defenders.

Maybe I haven't seen him enough this year or last and it's more of an isolated random incident, but it's weird. I'll say though, it's actually kind of encouraging if my suspicions are true. Because if he's able to get past his man in the same fashion in the NBA, he can eventually learn what to do as a secondary move or action once he gets close to the paint, instead of bringing it back and allowing the man who was guarding him, who he got by, to catch up to him and thus continue to collapse and break the defense down.

[B-Ball Freak]

Kid is a stud, he will be a very good scorer in the next level.

[vincecarter4pres]

I watch him and I often think like Bradley Beal, but an overall better shooter, at the NBA level.

Maybe a guy with similar raw stats, just hopefully without all the health concerns, but better advanced stats, percentages and thus impact.

A guy who's around a 17 or 18ppg scorer, maybe 17/5/3 guy with average defense and good BBIQ. Maybe struggles his rookie year as an inefficient 13ppg guy, comes in his sophomore vastly improved, then has a couple seasons of good above average play and impact and possibly blows up for 4 or 5 seasons before his true prime is gone as an efficient low 20's scorer as a 1A or 1B option on a good playoff team, as the 2nd or 3rd best player.

Probably has a high ceiling as well, don't see him as a guy who could be worse then a double digit scoring starter you can throw in any lineup.

[Barnsey]

I like the Beal comparison. I'm gonna use that.

I think vincecarter4pres also nailed how his career arch will go. Although i honestly think 20ppg is realistic.

Hield may be even more prolific / ballsy as a shooter-scorer. He nails contested threes on a regular basis. It reminds me of Curry (just that element though, calm down)