Arena Construction - Make pitch for ASG in 22/23. pg 95

[soboMP3]

I think it looks awesome. Big fan, and looking forward to seeing it built!

[Badgerlander]

Yeah I know the local idiots fought against it but it sucks. I really wish they have chosen a different location. Absolutely nothing in walking distance from the arena, but hey lets have an outdoor plaza for a winter sport dominant arena, stupid and shortsighted as usual for our elected idiots

Huh? It'll be walking distance to Old World 3rd Street which has several restaurants/bars.

too far for me when its cold plus its the opposite direction of my car so nope

[Sigra]

I like it.

[Bucknado]

I'm guessing the new owners were sitting in Bel Aire and thinking "we need a cool, original design. Hmmm..."

[paulpressey25]

Many people don't want to walk outside in the dead of winter, not to mention walk outside downtown. It would have been nice to have the Bucks be the business that starts connecting buildings like in Minny.

Precisely. You could easily do a skywalk link into this thing.

[Black_Dragon]

The more I look at this and think about it the more it pisses me off. You're building something brand **** new and are intentionally making it look like it's a piece of crap pile of rust that's been around for 100 years and been abandoned for 50. Nothing says rust belt like adding a bunch of **** that makes a brand new building look like it's covered in rust.

This is exactly why I wanted something modern and not old school because we get **** who go all the way over to industrial and we end up with this steaming pile of ****.

Whether you like the renderings or not, you must live a sad life if you get this worked up about it haha.

[paulpressey25]

Properly patinated zinc can look amazing. I don't know how it will look on this large of a scale tho.

That's the part that is an open question. It does look like a beer barrel from the outside in the renderings but might look really good when done.

Or it could look like a rusting industrial building which would be bad. Certainly higher risk elements here with this thing.

(Wish you guys hadn't said the hairpiece thing. Have to admit that now is sticking with me)

[SkilesTheLimit]

It looks like a cheap knockoff of Bàrclays Center, which also looks hideous.

Yeah, I'm not liking the In-and-Out Burger boomerang design.

I wish they would've done a design similar to the Magic's arena which is phenomenal both inside and out.

[vlietinho]

Nice! I better start saving some khash to see it live

[Perishable517]

Not that impressive. Once the Bucks knew they'd be on the hook for any overages, any chance of a truly spectacular design went out the window. The cheaper the better from their viewpoint. Looks like a cookie cutter design.

You clearly don't understand the meaning of 'cookie cutter.' There are gripes one can have with the design, but the images clearly depict a one-of-a-kind building.

Personally, I think it looks pretty interesting. Not sold on the rusted exterior but the lobby looks awesome.

I'm actually a fan of the rusted exterior...it's a bold design and the rusted look, I think, ties in the new and old (without looking cheap like the convention center).

[imithanos]

Nice!!

Hopefully I get to visit it during a June playoff game. You have some nice beer festivals there, right?

[sidney lanier]

Properly patinated zinc can look amazing. I don't know how it will look on this large of a scale tho.

That's the part that is an open question. It does look like a beer barrel from the outside in the renderings but might look really good when done.

Or it could look like a rusting industrial building which would be bad. Certainly higher risk elements here with this thing.

(Wish you guys hadn't said the hairpiece thing. Have to admit that now is sticking with me)

I remember the CorTen steel fad of the 1970s. May still be going on, I don't know. During my misspent youth I walked past the building at Cornell derisively known as "Old Rusty" many times. Its CorTen cladding was a drippy mess of crap-colored streaks back then.I assume the patination/faux-weathering technology is better now.

Despite my beer barrel joke, I do kind of like the design. This is a building to have fun in, so cut loose from boring rectilinearity and have some fun with it.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Yeah I know the local idiots fought against it but it sucks. I really wish they have chosen a different location. Absolutely nothing in walking distance from the arena, but hey lets have an outdoor plaza for a winter sport dominant arena, stupid and shortsighted as usual for our elected idiots

Huh? It'll be walking distance to Old World 3rd Street which has several restaurants/bars.

too far for me when its cold plus its the opposite direction of my car so nope

I bet you walk farther to go shopping at the mall.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Not that impressive. Once the Bucks knew they'd be on the hook for any overages, any chance of a truly spectacular design went out the window. The cheaper the better from their viewpoint. Looks like a cookie cutter design.

You clearly don't understand the meaning of 'cookie cutter.' There are gripes one can have with the design, but the images clearly depict a one-of-a-kind building.

Personally, I think it looks pretty interesting. Not sold on the rusted exterior but the lobby looks awesome.

I'm actually a fan of the rusted exterior...it's a bold design and the rusted look, I think, ties in the new and old (without looking cheap like the convention center).

Precisely why many in Milwaukee won't like it.

[HaroldinGMinor]

All this talk about walking in cold weather.....has any one ever figured out how many home games were played when the weather outside the arena was below zero the last, say, five seasons? How about below 10 degrees? Below 20?

[mcfromage]

Properly patinated zinc can look amazing. I don't know how it will look on this large of a scale tho.

That's the part that is an open question. It does look like a beer barrel from the outside in the renderings but might look really good when done.

Or it could look like a rusting industrial building which would be bad. Certainly higher risk elements here with this thing.

(Wish you guys hadn't said the hairpiece thing. Have to admit that now is sticking with me)

I remember the CorTen steel fad of the 1970s. May still be going on, I don't know. During my misspent youth I walked past the building at Cornell derisively known as "Old Rusty" many times. Its CorTen cladding was a drippy mess of crap-colored streaks back then.I assume the patination/faux-weathering technology is better now.

Despite my beer barrel joke, I do kind of like the design. This is a building to have fun in, so cut loose from boring rectilinearity and have some fun with it.

Your takes are on point here Sid! I thought beer barrel immediately too, but I dont think of it as a negative. Where others see rust I see wood.

[MickeyDavis]

All this talk about walking in cold weather.....has any one ever figured out how many home games were played when the weather outside the arena was below zero the last, say, five seasons? How about below 10 degrees? Below 20?

That's a moot point. Skywalks would be convenient and keep people within the complex to maximize revenue. If done properly and incorporated from the beginning they can be aesthetically pleasing. Every piece of the new development should be connected.

[Badgerlander]

Huh? It'll be walking distance to Old World 3rd Street which has several restaurants/bars.

too far for me when its cold plus its the opposite direction of my car so nope

I bet you walk farther to go shopping at the mall.

bet i dont go shopping at the mall

[Ron Swanson]

I like the design. The exterior looks like a hard court wrapped around the one side. Even if you don't like the design, it's certainly original. I'm sick of all these new "modern" arenas and stadiums being built that are 99% glass and windows.

[Finn]

I remember the CorTen steel fad of the 1970s. May still be going on, I don't know. During my misspent youth I walked past the building at Cornell derisively known as "Old Rusty" many times. Its CorTen cladding was a drippy mess of crap-colored streaks back then.I assume the patination/faux-weathering technology is better now.

A bit OT, but an interesting bit of history: CorTen @ Cornell