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Who would you prefer to take with the Washington pick?

Chriss
20
27%
Davis
5
7%
Korkmaz
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3%
Labissiere
4
5%
Luwawu
12
16%
Rabb
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16%
Sabonis
20
27%
 
Total votes: 75

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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1101 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:42 am

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That's why I say Dunn or Murray. You can't pick a guy just to be picking a guy to fill a void; if the void can't be filled effectively, you draft BPA, why rationalize a bad choice to feel better about the pick?

Our list should be:
Simmons
Ingram
Murray
Dunn
Bender
Brown

fyi: I am not high on Bender. Never seen him play against quality opponents and he doesn't play in the league he is in.


I personally would take Brown before Murray. I don't see any need for you guys to take Murray when you have Booker. I can see the Dunn pick if you guys aren't sure about Bledsoe because his injuries. I just think after 2, 3 through like 8 are very even and you take what you need. I think you guys are in need for a forward. I think Brown would be a good pick for you guys if you don't land a top 2 pick





Why would we waste the 3-5 on a guy that isn't very good, versus rolling the dice on Murray? You don't draft a "maybe" role player at 3-5 because of need. I'd rather have Bender.


I thihnk taking Murray is much more of rolling the dice than taking Brown. I think Brown has a much higher ceiling than Murray. Most people believe Brown is the superior prospect over Murray
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1102 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:27 am

I got 2 9s and a 6 in my Final Four. I'm definitely winning this bracket challenge.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1103 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:53 am

Depends which camp you fall in, I've never liked the athletes who can't shoot, because ineffecient players are the most frustrating to me. I'm ok with an Archie Goodwin at 29 rather than a Jaylen Brown at 3.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1104 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:32 am

I really don't like the fact that we're discussing guards. If we've got the 3rd pick, I say we go with one of Bender, Brown, Ellenson or Poeltl. I'd lean toward Brown because I think he could be a two-way player, and I think TJ would be a hell of a 6th man. Bender, Ellenson and Poeltl would give some help up front with Len, but I think there are better bigs in this class projected to be there with the Washington pick than there are wing players. Plus I'm not sold on back to back drafts with unicorns so Bender is a huge red flag like Zinger was, Poeltl seems a little more redundant to Len than he is complementary, and everyone talks about Ellenson's range but he hasn't really produced this season it would seem.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1105 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:39 am

saintEscaton wrote:Vehemently disagree, Murray is the last thing we need.
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I don't really want Murray either, and I'll be real interested if we end up 4th to see who he picks. If Bender is off the board I'd probably see what kind of offers come in or take Dunn to back up and have insurance for Bledsoe....if Boston drops to 5th I think they might want Murray, and we could trade it, because someone else will want Murray. I also think Boston is 3rd, might take Murray over over Bender as well.

I wouldn't be THAT disappointed with Brown, but I'm not too convinced as him and want shooters everywhere and think Warren will continue to improve defensively and want him at 3...but a rotation depending on need would be fine and Brown could replace Tucker and come off bench at least until he develops a better outside shot. I like that he is studious, although so is Knight for that matter.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1106 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:41 am

MrMiyagi wrote:I got 2 9s and a 6 in my Final Four. I'm definitely winning this bracket challenge.


This is the widest open it's been, and I have no idea, but I went mostly chalk with Mich St beating Oregon in championship. I wonder who your 6 seed is.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1107 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:43 am

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MrMiyagi wrote:I got 2 9s and a 6 in my Final Four. I'm definitely winning this bracket challenge.


This is the widest open it's been, and I have no idea, but I went mostly chalk with Mich St beating Oregon in championship. I wonder who your 6 seed is.

It actually isn't the Cats, though I have another bracket with them winning.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1108 » by Damkac » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:19 am

Murray is talented but he is not the player Suns need. It's funny how after all that talking about having classic backcourt with passing pg and 6'6 sg people here wants Murray who is 6'4 and average 2 assists a game.
If Suns have to draft guard then Dunn is a much better fit. It's basically like replacing Bledsoe with his younger, less athletic but better passing version.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1109 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:46 am

I'd just get the player most likely to be All-Star calibre.

I can't imagine a GM saying he picked for need over talent in the top 5.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1110 » by No-Man » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:18 am

This is my last Mock pre-March Madness, the order of selection is the one that fivethirtyeight has as their latest prediction of the Regular Season final standings according to the data and record the teams have produced until today, and their projections for the rest of the games.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/163628/

I have paid a bit more attention to both team needs and predictions of how a GM is likely going to operate, plus my rankings, so it is not only based on my opinion off every prospect.
Feedback is always welcome'd.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1111 » by MathiasPW » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:39 am

Wolves pick Dunn over Rabb 9 times out of 10.

Dieng is playing well, and they need insurance on Rubio.
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Re: RE: Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1112 » by MathiasPW » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:42 am

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saintEscaton wrote:Vehemently disagree, Murray is the last thing we need.
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I don't really want Murray either, and I'll be real interested if we end up 4th to see who he picks. If Bender is off the board I'd probably see what kind of offers come in or take Dunn to back up and have insurance for Bledsoe....if Boston drops to 5th I think they might want Murray, and we could trade it, because someone else will want Murray. I also think Boston is 3rd, might take Murray over over Bender as well.

I wouldn't be THAT disappointed with Brown, but I'm not too convinced as him and want shooters everywhere and think Warren will continue to improve defensively and want him at 3...but a rotation depending on need would be fine and Brown could replace Tucker and come off bench at least until he develops a better outside shot. I like that he is studious, although so is Knight for that matter.


Boston is weak at PF and loaded at guards. Can't see them taking Murray over Bender, unless the talent gap is too big ( which apparently it isn't)
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1113 » by JMac1 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:25 pm

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I personally would take Brown before Murray. I don't see any need for you guys to take Murray when you have Booker. I can see the Dunn pick if you guys aren't sure about Bledsoe because his injuries. I just think after 2, 3 through like 8 are very even and you take what you need. I think you guys are in need for a forward. I think Brown would be a good pick for you guys if you don't land a top 2 pick





Why would we waste the 3-5 on a guy that isn't very good, versus rolling the dice on Murray? You don't draft a "maybe" role player at 3-5 because of need. I'd rather have Bender.


I thihnk taking Murray is much more of rolling the dice than taking Brown. I think Brown has a much higher ceiling than Murray. Most people believe Brown is the superior prospect over Murray


Everyone has an opinion. I agree with Pelton on Murray. BTW, Murray is a freshman just like Brown, so people can't throw that potential crap in there. Murray has dominated as a 18-19year old at the best program in college :-? :o , but yet I should ignore that and take Brown over him, senseless IMO.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1114 » by JMac1 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:27 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'd just get the player most likely to be All-Star calibre.

I can't imagine a GM saying he picked for need over talent in the top 5.


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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1115 » by JMac1 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Btw, my pick is Ingram and to my dismay Simmons, Murray or Dunn is my next pick. I am not saying Murray is the best option, just better than Brown and Bender.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1116 » by JMac1 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:48 pm

On a side note!!!! Fricking Providence and Kentucky both are playing tonight at 6:30 with the Suns playing at 6:00, what a crock. I was hoping to watch basketball from 9 until 9 including the Suns and each game watching a player that we could possibly pick but nope!
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Re: RE: Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1117 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:41 pm

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saintEscaton wrote:Vehemently disagree, Murray is the last thing we need.
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I don't really want Murray either, and I'll be real interested if we end up 4th to see who he picks. If Bender is off the board I'd probably see what kind of offers come in or take Dunn to back up and have insurance for Bledsoe....if Boston drops to 5th I think they might want Murray, and we could trade it, because someone else will want Murray. I also think Boston is 3rd, might take Murray over over Bender as well.

I wouldn't be THAT disappointed with Brown, but I'm not too convinced as him and want shooters everywhere and think Warren will continue to improve defensively and want him at 3...but a rotation depending on need would be fine and Brown could replace Tucker and come off bench at least until he develops a better outside shot. I like that he is studious, although so is Knight for that matter.


Boston is weak at PF and loaded at guards. Can't see them taking Murray over Bender, unless the talent gap is too big ( which apparently it isn't)


But, they already have a stretch in Olynyk and are more ready to compete now and not wait on development for Bender. Plus they have a pg in Smart but he is a defensive guy as is Bradley and they only have Thomas another year and a half. He could command big money and Murray would be good replacement. They are among league lows on 3 pt %...that's my rationale from their standpoint.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1118 » by MathiasPW » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:49 pm

One injury prone stretch four at Olynk and two combo guards at Bradley and Smart (even tho defensive ones as you mentioned).

And, stealing a line from above, u don't draft for need over BPA with a top five pick.
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Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1119 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:22 pm

MathiasPW wrote:One injury prone stretch four at Olynk and two combo guards at Bradley and Smart (even tho defensive ones as you mentioned).

And, stealing a line from above, u don't draft for need over BPA with a top five pick.


Well it all depends on perspective of who BPA is. It's not something written in stone as if every team sees what the consensus BPA is. Bender is pretty much an unknown. It seems like many of their fans and even some mocks have them taking Murray.
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Re: RE: Re: 2016 Draft and College Ball 

Post#1120 » by MathiasPW » Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:33 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:One injury prone stretch four at Olynk and two combo guards at Bradley and Smart (even tho defensive ones as you mentioned).

And, stealing a line from above, u don't draft for need over BPA with a top five pick.


Well it all depends on perspective of who BPA is. It's not something written in stone as if every team sees what the consensus BPA is. Bender is pretty much an unknown. It seems like many of their fans and even some mocks have them taking Murray.

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