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Post#961 » by wadeskywalker » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:44 pm

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dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Like it's been for the past x amount of years...without a healthy Wade, the answer is no. Last night was evidence of this...

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Without Bosh I think is the more appropriate answer. A healthy Wade at this stage is some kind of unicorn.

He's been pretty good all year. In the East, we can make noise without Bosh. Having him definitely solidifies us as a legit threat to #TheLand .

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Post#962 » by Tony15 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:47 pm

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dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Yeah, I'm here. The eastern conference has been in flux all year, and regular season results against individual teams don't really matter. The playoffs are a different animal, where adjustments can be made on a game to game basis, no back to backs. When this team engages itself on both ends of the floor (which you and I have both seen, even against the better teams), they have more talent than anyone else in the east aside of Cleveland. Last night was an upsetting loss, but it's not indicative of anything.

Wade is not healthy. That's what I saw. I also saw Spo make a bone head move by not having one of our hottest 3 point shooters on the floor for the final possesion. At the very least, someone else for Charlotte to worry about.

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True dat. Wade also said before the year started that he wanted to play all 82, or something to that effect. He wants to prove that he can be ironman again, and it hasn't panned out of late. He was close to useless in the Chicago win, a borderline detriment in the Denver win, and REALLY useless last night. He needs to take a week off. Him playing through his injuries is hurting this team. Spo making him focal point at the end of the game is hurting this team. Spo being so damn defiant about it afterwards too is hurting this team, and quite frankly pisses me off a little......another discussion entirely. Ah well, on to the next. No sense stressing over a game long since over.
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Post#963 » by wadeskywalker » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:50 pm

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Tony15 wrote:Yeah, I'm here. The eastern conference has been in flux all year, and regular season results against individual teams don't really matter. The playoffs are a different animal, where adjustments can be made on a game to game basis, no back to backs. When this team engages itself on both ends of the floor (which you and I have both seen, even against the better teams), they have more talent than anyone else in the east aside of Cleveland. Last night was an upsetting loss, but it's not indicative of anything.

Wade is not healthy. That's what I saw. I also saw Spo make a bone head move by not having one of our hottest 3 point shooters on the floor for the final possesion. At the very least, someone else for Charlotte to worry about.

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I noticed. Wade also said before the year started that he wanted to play all 82, or something to that effect. He wants to prove that he can be ironman again, and it hasn't panned out of late. He was close to useless in the Chicago win, a borderline detriment in the Denver win, and REALLY useless last night. He needs to take a week off. Him playing through his injuries is hurting this team.

I agree. With his injury, the offense bogs down with him in there. Bad shots, pressing to make a play...

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Post#964 » by dancing2thabeet » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:51 pm

Tony15 wrote:
dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Yeah, I'm here. The eastern conference has been in flux all year, and regular season results against individual teams don't really matter. The playoffs are a different animal, where adjustments can be made on a game to game basis, no back to backs. When this team engages itself on both ends of the floor (which you and I have both seen, even against the better teams), they have more talent than anyone else in the east aside of Cleveland. Last night was an upsetting loss, but it's not indicative of anything. I'm a tad concerned about Wade though....


When was that? The last good team we beat that comes to mind is ... Pacers? A month or a month and a half ago.
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Post#965 » by Tony15 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:57 pm

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dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Yeah, I'm here. The eastern conference has been in flux all year, and regular season results against individual teams don't really matter. The playoffs are a different animal, where adjustments can be made on a game to game basis, no back to backs. When this team engages itself on both ends of the floor (which you and I have both seen, even against the better teams), they have more talent than anyone else in the east aside of Cleveland. Last night was an upsetting loss, but it's not indicative of anything. I'm a tad concerned about Wade though....


When was that? The last good team we beat that comes to mind is ... Pacers? A month or a month and a half ago.

Pacers, Hawks, hell even before the ASB we've beaten CHA twice and if not for porous officiating and scheduling we could've won @TOR and were competitive against GSW. Point being is whether your record against good teams in the regular season is good or not, I've watched enough basketball to know that has little bearing on the playoffs. I've always viewed the regular season as an extended preseason anyway, where you form good habits and gather yourself for the playoffs intensity. We got some things to iron out. That's my take on it anyway. I understand if you have a different perspective.
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Post#966 » by dancing2thabeet » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:02 pm

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Tony15 wrote:Yeah, I'm here. The eastern conference has been in flux all year, and regular season results against individual teams don't really matter. The playoffs are a different animal, where adjustments can be made on a game to game basis, no back to backs. When this team engages itself on both ends of the floor (which you and I have both seen, even against the better teams), they have more talent than anyone else in the east aside of Cleveland. Last night was an upsetting loss, but it's not indicative of anything. I'm a tad concerned about Wade though....


When was that? The last good team we beat that comes to mind is ... Pacers? A month or a month and a half ago.

Pacers, Hawks, hell even before the ASB we've beaten CHA twice and if not for porous officiating and scheduling we could've won @TOR and were competitive against GSW. Point being is whether your record against good teams in the regular season is good or not, I've watched enough basketball to know that has little bearing on the playoffs. I've always viewed the regular season as an extended preseason anyway, where you form good habits and gather yourself for the playoffs intensity. We got some things to iron out. That's my take on it anyway. I understand if you have a different perspective.


Yeah I already said Pacers. Hawks were struggling and were horrible when we beat them, they most certainly don't count. Charlotte was bad before ASB too, they weren't even in the playoff mix. And we haven't won against Toronto or Golden State so bringing them up really doesn't matter here.

I'm not talking about records, I'm talking about how well our team plays basketball. And it's only good enough to beat tanking or struggling teams. I've been waiting a long time for a reasurring win and I still haven't seen one. I agree about building habits, but so far our most notable habit has been losing a 15+ pts lead as soon as possible.
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Post#967 » by Tony15 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:24 pm

Not sure what you're arguing against. We played well against those teams (TOR and GSW) and the results are what they are. Had they won last night, would you be here harping on the fact that a 15 lead was blown? Not being facetious, just asking the question. CHA is a good team....16-4 last 20 games. But to hold up this game as indicative and dismiss our two wins against the same team makes no sense. Everyone not named GSW has lost to good teams. What upsets me is how bad we played after a quarter and a half. To me, a win doesn't hide that. To each his own though. I'm out.


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Post#968 » by dancing2thabeet » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:30 pm

Tony15 wrote:Not sure what you're arguing against. We played well against those teams (TOR and GSW) and the results are what they are. Had they won last night, would you be here harping on the fact that a 15 lead was blown? Not being facetious, just asking the question. CHA is a good team....16-4 last 20 games. But to hold up this game as indicative and dismiss our two wins against the same team makes no sense. Everyone not named GSW has lost to good teams. What upsets me is how bad we played after a quarter and a half. To me, a win doesn't hide that. To each his own though. I'm out.


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I would. This Hornets game was lost for me the minute we start half-assing and blew that lead. Let's not act we are happy with our close wins against Philly and Denver lately which should be 20 pts blowout at least.

This team needs major changes if they want to make noise in the postseason. I doubt 14 games is enough for that.
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Post#969 » by dolphinatik » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:47 pm

Only two people can refocus wade, that's wade and spo. I'm not mad wade took the last shot. I'm mad that that is all we seem to reply on even though w have other options. Wish shoo would man up and tell wade he can go ham in quarters 1-3 because he is sitting 4 and see how the rest of the team responds. Got to break our bad habits. So many more options on the team nite we should be using that to our advantage. Wade cutting without the ball is a beautiful thing we don't use nearly enough. Joe is a wizard and the roofs are showing new things every game. Can spo be proactive with changes?
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Post#970 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:54 pm

Also, the wheels of this Amar'e thing is starting to disassemble. Can't fault him tho, that's been expected after stringing those good runs a month ago..
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Post#971 » by cjiscash » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:26 pm

dolphinatik wrote:Only two people can refocus wade, that's wade and spo. I'm not mad wade took the last shot. I'm mad that that is all we seem to reply on even though w have other options. Wish shoo would man up and tell wade he can go ham in quarters 1-3 because he is sitting 4 and see how the rest of the team responds. Got to break our bad habits. So many more options on the team nite we should be using that to our advantage. Wade cutting without the ball is a beautiful thing we don't use nearly enough. Joe is a wizard and the roofs are showing new things every game. Can spo be proactive with changes?

That's what I've also been trying to to say. Wade can still be great and make plays with the ball in his hands, but when he locks in to playing off the ball he can be even more effective (especially at this point in his career). MJ was still the best player in the league at 34-35, but at that point in his career he was doing most of his damage off the ball and in the post. Obviously D-Wade isn't Jordan (nobody is) but he has some similarities in his game; a great post game, and great off ball instincts.

Wade was super efficient playing more off the ball from 2011-2014 when he relinquished most of the playmaking duties to LeBron and developed his game playing away from the ball. Of course with LeBron on your team he gets most of the attention, so it was easier for Wade to be effective off the ball because he wasn't getting the same type of attention he got in years passed. Even without LeBron, up to this point we've built up a pretty good team to where Wade shouldn't have to feel like he has to do everything for us to be successful.

And finally we're also going to need Spo to grow a pair and stop coddling Wade. Wade is the only player on the team that gets away with literally everything. Spo has no problems yanking out other player for simply making a one bad play, but Wade can have continuous bad plays and he stays in the game. And for the life of me, I don't understand how Spo hasn't forced Wade to work on his 3 point shot. Josh Richardson literally could not buy a jump to start this season and in less than a year he has turned into our best shooter because forced him to practice those shots. Wade has been in the league for 13 years and is still afraid to shoot the 3; and I blame Spo for that because I think he coddles him too much. Sorry for the rant guys, but it's just frustrating watching my all time favorite player's play as of late because it has been hurting the team. :noway:
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Post#972 » by Heat03 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:55 pm

Bosh needs to come back asap to replace Amare. If he's not coming back start Whiteside now and bring McRoberts off the bench over Amare.
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Post#973 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:29 pm

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Post#974 » by QUIZ » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:46 pm

dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Top 3 seed probably not. Move past the 2nd round? Yes, especially if the Raptors overtake the Cavs for the 1st seed.

Now is not the time to go all doom and gloom. Yeah we're currently the 6th seed but we're tied in the loss column with the 3rd seed. It's not like its out of reach.

TJ is going to return and if Bosh does as well it'd be the push that we need.

Come on dancing2thabeet don't get do down. When Bosh went out again you as well as many others thought we were headed for the lottery again.

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Post#975 » by dancing2thabeet » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:57 pm

QUIZ wrote:
dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Top 3 seed probably not. Move past the 2nd round? Yes, especially if the Raptors overtake the Cavs for the 1st seed.

Now is not the time to go all doom and gloom. Yeah we're currently the 6th seed but we're tied in the loss column with the 3rd seed. It's not like its out of reach.

TJ is going to return and if Bosh does as well it'd be the push that we need.

Come on dancing2thabeet don't get do down. When Bosh went out again you as well as many others thought we were headed for the lottery again.

Compared to that we've been balling.


We've been balling against bad teams. What quality games have we won lately? I have zero confidence in this team as of now, man. :noway:
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Post#976 » by ElDoggo » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:29 pm

Tony15 wrote:
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Tony15 wrote:Yeah, I'm here. The eastern conference has been in flux all year, and regular season results against individual teams don't really matter. The playoffs are a different animal, where adjustments can be made on a game to game basis, no back to backs. When this team engages itself on both ends of the floor (which you and I have both seen, even against the better teams), they have more talent than anyone else in the east aside of Cleveland. Last night was an upsetting loss, but it's not indicative of anything.

Wade is not healthy. That's what I saw. I also saw Spo make a bone head move by not having one of our hottest 3 point shooters on the floor for the final possesion. At the very least, someone else for Charlotte to worry about.

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True dat. Wade also said before the year started that he wanted to play all 82, or something to that effect. He wants to prove that he can be ironman again, and it hasn't panned out of late. He was close to useless in the Chicago win, a borderline detriment in the Denver win, and REALLY useless last night. He needs to take a week off. Him playing through his injuries is hurting this team. Spo making him focal point at the end of the game is hurting this team. Spo being so damn defiant about it afterwards too is hurting this team, and quite frankly pisses me off a little......another discussion entirely. Ah well, on to the next. No sense stressing over a game long since over.


Totally hit the nail on the head. Wade is hurt and Spo's insistence on sucking his cock makes both of them look bad. Spo is a good coach that does really dumb and illogical things.
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Post#977 » by Bishop45 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:38 pm

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Post#978 » by dolphinatik » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:43 pm

We can get the 3 seed because bostons schedule is brutal plus we are one of the best in the east. Its up to us.
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Post#979 » by QUIZ » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:49 pm

dancing2thabeet wrote:
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dancing2thabeet wrote:So ... Is there still somebody who thinks we can get a top 3 seed? Or that we can move past 2nd round in playoffs?

Top 3 seed probably not. Move past the 2nd round? Yes, especially if the Raptors overtake the Cavs for the 1st seed.

Now is not the time to go all doom and gloom. Yeah we're currently the 6th seed but we're tied in the loss column with the 3rd seed. It's not like its out of reach.

TJ is going to return and if Bosh does as well it'd be the push that we need.

Come on dancing2thabeet don't get do down. When Bosh went out again you as well as many others thought we were headed for the lottery again.

Compared to that we've been balling.


We've been balling against bad teams. What quality games have we won lately? I have zero confidence in this team as of now, man. :noway:

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Post#980 » by HeatFanDan » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:57 pm

QUIZ wrote:
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QUIZ wrote:Top 3 seed probably not. Move past the 2nd round? Yes, especially if the Raptors overtake the Cavs for the 1st seed.

Now is not the time to go all doom and gloom. Yeah we're currently the 6th seed but we're tied in the loss column with the 3rd seed. It's not like its out of reach.

TJ is going to return and if Bosh does as well it'd be the push that we need.

Come on dancing2thabeet don't get do down. When Bosh went out again you as well as many others thought we were headed for the lottery again.

Compared to that we've been balling.


We've been balling against bad teams. What quality games have we won lately? I have zero confidence in this team as of now, man. :noway:

Well I'm not gonna make you feel any better man. I just choose to never mope. We've been through worse than this.

For real. The overreaction in last night's game thread was laughable. You would've thought it was game 7 of the Finals.

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