Compare the Bucks to the Magic

[tiderulz]

If what happened to the Bucks happened to the Magic, the answer is very simple according to Magic fans as we have all heard it here before:

Kidd's coaching style is negatively affecting the players and he must be fired Asap!!!

In addition, Kidd is holding back the young kids and stunting their superstar potential!!!!

except he is playing the young kids.

[BadMofoPimp]

If what happened to the Bucks happened to the Magic, the answer is very simple according to Magic fans as we have all heard it here before:

Kidd's coaching style is negatively affecting the players and he must be fired Asap!!!

In addition, Kidd is holding back the young kids and stunting their superstar potential!!!!

except he is playing the young kids.

So are the MAGIC!!!!

[ezzzp]

Payton>mcw
Oladipo>middleton
Hezonja<giannis
Gordon>=parker
Vuc>monroe

More realistically...
Payton = Carter-Williams; neither can shoot. MCW is a better rebounder, Payton a better passer, both turn the ball over more than they should, MCW gets blocks and steals, but also fouls more because of it.

Oladipo = Middleton; they take the same number of shots, but Vic is a below average shooter and Middleton is above average. Vic rebounds better, they are about the same as passers, Vic is better defensively even if he is overrated.

Fournier/Hezonja << Antetokounmpo; Giannis is pretty freaking good, and he still has a lot of room for growth.

Gordon >> Parker; Who would have thought this 2 years ago? Gordon and the Freak are the 2 guys I value most on either team.

Monroe >> Vucevic; Monroe is the better rebounder again this year, Monroe is better in FG%, 2PT%, eFG%, TS%, and gets double the FT attempts. They are about equal as passers, and defensively.

I agree with your assessments...the only difference in future outlook is that the Bucks cap flexibility isn't quite as good as the Magic's due to when their key free agents come due in relation to the 2016 + 2017 cap expansions and the 2018 cap deflation. Monroe player option + MCW and Giannis' restricted free agency couldn't have come at worse time for them as the cap will be at its peak.

[seeingstars]

Hoping Jennings destroys kemba

[monchief]

The bucks made the playoffs last year while the Magic wallowed in the lottery.

I didn't watch the bucks much last year so I have to ask you guys, how much of that is due to their far superior coaching (kidd vs vaughn) and how much is due to their players actually being better?

Roster for upcoming year:

MCW vs Payton

Middleton vs Oladipo

Parker vs Harris

Henson vs Gordon

Monroe vs Vuc

Giannis vs Hezonja

Bayless vs Watson

Mayo vs Fournier

You guys all realize the roster the bucks had that made the playoffs is not that one right? And that roster you are comparing has 30 wins right now. They suck too.

MCW was not their PG when they got all those wins, it was Brandon Knight. They were 30-23 before trading Knight for MCW, they finished the year with 42-40. Went 12-17 with MCW. Zaza was also a far better fit for them than Monroe is. On top of that, guys like Bayless and Mayo were much better last year. With Monroe in the middle, it's not really a surprise their defense fell off a cliff this year compared to last. DRTG last year 102.2 (4th in NBA) DRTG this year 108.3 (24th in NBA).

You are comparing the wrong thing.

[ezzzp]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/woj-report--potential-problems-for-jason-kidd-170123197.html?soc_src=copy

Woj talks about how Jason Kidd is the cause of Milwaukee's ills...said he engineered the MCW trade etc.