Iron Maiden: The Troy Daniels Thread

[mrknowitall215]

The results are in beyond small sample size and it's evident that Daniels shouldn't be playing over Lamb. With Daniels on the floor we've been weak in both areas, offense and defense, with one of the few negative net ratings on the roster besides Roberts, Psycho, and goodbye PJ at -2.3 and -22.4 the past 3 games. Smh

Just give Lamb back his damn spot and stop the dumb stuff.

Always was a mercurial decision that I disagreed with to bench and limit Lamb to me , especially for Troy Daniels. I understand the situational aspect, but the Hornets' offense has been clicking on all cylinders outside of Lin's shooting woes, and Daniels' hasn't necessarily improved those efforts. If anything, it appears that the Hornets' offense has stalled with Daniels on the floor since he's not much of a threat to put the ball on the floor, identifying a lack of playmakers to create offense on the floor

[fatlever]

In theory, I kinda get why Clifford made the move to Troy over Lamb with the 2nd unit. Lately the 2nd unit has been Lin-Batum-Frank-Jefferson with either Lamb or Daniels at SG. In that lineup with the first four, you have Lin and Batum that can both pass, run pick and roll and create off the dribble (also Frank who can do it as well). Is there really a need for 3-4 players who can do that, when the first option on offense is always going to be Jefferson. Daniels, as the better spot up 3pt shooter, doesn't need the ball and, in theory create better spacing for Lin, Batum, Jefferson.

However, the results with Troy haven't really changed anything. That unit still struggling to score unless Jefferson is scoring.

Does Al even notice better spacing? He shots over 2-3 defenders regardless.

Last game when Cliff went to the all bench lineup + Lee at the same time, Lamb really would have made more sense. That unit needed another player to create off the dribble to help Lin.

Lamb is just such an oddball of a player. The advanced stats like him - PER, Ortg etc... but he has the worst TS% on the team over the past 14 games (since Lee trade).

[TinmanZBoy]

In theory, I kinda get why Clifford made the move to Troy over Lamb with the 2nd unit. Lately the 2nd unit has been Lin-Batum-Frank-Jefferson with either Lamb or Daniels at SG. In that lineup with the first four, you have Lin and Batum that can both pass, run pick and roll and create off the dribble (also Frank who can do it as well). Is there really a need for 3-4 players who can do that, when the first option on offense is always going to be Jefferson. Daniels, as the better spot up 3pt shooter, doesn't need the ball and, in theory create better spacing for Lin, Batum, Jefferson.

However, the results with Troy haven't really changed anything. That unit still struggling to score unless Jefferson is scoring.

Does Al even notice better spacing? He shots over 2-3 defenders regardless.

Last game when Cliff went to the all bench lineup + Lee at the same time, Lamb really would have made more sense. That unit needed another player to create off the dribble to help Lin.

Lamb is just such an oddball of a player. The advanced stats like him - PER, Ortg etc... but he has the worst TS% on the team over the past 14 games (since Lee trade).

To be fair, lamb's minutes got cut big time since the Lee trade... every time he was on the court, he was a little anxious, trying to do too much on offense, it backfired... his lapses on defense don't help either.... It is a tough situation for him, he and coach need to communicate more, coach needs to help him get going, he is capable and was a big part of early success of this team....

[ChokeFasncists]

Troy needs to return to his role of being a situational player. There doesn't seem to be much to him when he gets constant second unit minutes. He's better as a random five minute throw-in alongside the starters who can get him the ball for unexpected threes.

The second unit looked dreadful last night with Lin being the only player capable of handling the ball and our other option being entering it inside to Al.

Lamb can create a decent shot for himself. Daniels is pretty much only capable of taking a dribble backwards and flinging a 3 up. This experiment shouldn't last longer.

Question is, did Cliff want to play Troy or it's more cuz Lamb was doing things he didn't like?

[mrknowitall215]

All reasoning for playing Daniels over Lamb should be null & void based on the negative results of team performance when Daniels is on the floor versus that of when Lamb is on the floor

[HornetJail]

All reasoning for playing Daniels over Lamb should be null & void based on the negative results of team performance when Daniels is on the floor versus that of when Lamb is on the floor

Are you even watching the games? Until 3-4 games ago, Troy Daniels wasn't even seeing the floor outside of garbage time. The most common three-man lineup involving Daniels this season is Hansbrough/Kaminsky/Daniels. That lineup is saved almost solely for when we're up 20 in the 4th quarter.

Most common four-man lineups with Troy? Those same three with either Brian Roberts or Aaron Harrison.

Top five-man unit with Troy? Troy/Tyler/Frank/Roberts/Harrison.

That tells you everything you need to know.