Political Roundtable Part VIII

[nate33]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FoxNewsInsider/status/710823504090824706[/tweet]

Trump deserves it. He is Hitler. The guy that did it will probably be on CNN tomorrow, lauded as a hero.

[dckingsfan]

And then there is Bernie's SS promise to increase SS spending... and he is pulling Hillary with him.
http://tinyurl.com/zvebze3

So, basically allow SS to go bankrupt - smh. I expected a bit more of her.

The estimates are that both the Sanders and Clinton proposals would suck out 10 to 15 Trillion over the next 50 to 75 years... remember that shrinking pie for all other programs like infrastructure...

All these crazy ideas (including crazy Republican ideas like permanent war in the Middle East) will persist until there's a collapse of the dollar and people finally get serious. It's a shame that it's going to take a financial calamity before anyone gets serious, but it is what it is.

Yep, it is very frustrating - and I think from the majority of Americans (probably a vast majority). It is an elephant in the room - everyone knows it needs to be dealt with and any kind of rational discussion immediately goes to - you are trying to get rid of SS.

Sanders is basically asking Hillary to jump into federal insolvency with him. She should tell him to jump first and laugh from on top of the proverbial bridge.

[fishercob]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FoxNewsInsider/status/710823504090824706[/tweet]

Trump deserves it. He is Hitler. The guy that did it will probably be on CNN tomorrow, lauded as a hero.

Not surprising given his inflammatory rhetoric. He definitely strikes me as the political figure other than Obama that some loony is most likely to take a shot at.

[crackhed]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/710948914157891584[/tweet]

lol. said it a long time ago.. u have to be a moron to support trump for president of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[tontoz]

The Republican candidates really didn't go after Trump enough about his lying and abusiveness. I doubt the Dems make that mistake. I bet they go ham on Trump.

[dckingsfan]

This kind of worries me a bit... Crazy dems do some silly stuff - like protest his events and then he will say to his supporters to do the same - and then we could have some seriously bad things happen.

[TGW]

Zards....why in hell are you voting for Hillary? Hillary and Bill have been nothing but awful to Afican Americans. Probably moreso than Trump could ever be.

Where did I say I was voting for Hillary? But you can be assured that I won't be voting for Trump.

Didn't you say you were going to vote for whoever wins the Democratic primaries?

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[CobraCommander]

I'm not saying I'm a republican (said every republican in a liberal city) but the republicans being this messed up isn't good for the people. Any of the People republican or democrat- conservative or liberal- or any one else. There really isn't a true balance to the force...I mean government if the parties don't truly challenge each other as to not swing the government too far in any direction (left or right). Can you imagine an America where Hillary has NO true mandate from the people but her conscience. Last time a president had a blank slate was....hmmm right after nine eleven. The demcrates really couldn't push back too hard against a war president and...say hello to a whole bunch of attacks on human rights that will never truly be repealed (patriot act) because when the act is ended they didn't repeal everything. They replealed the obvious things and left the truly insidious cracks in your rights in place. Like naturalized citizens can be locked up on terrorism charges and LOSE their citizenship. Hmmm seems logical right...how long till that is extended to those born here? Couple that with Birthers and anything can happen...

I sense the dark side surrounding this election--- clouding everything.

[Wizardspride]

Click to read the rest

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/18/hillary-clinton-doesnt-need-white-men/

Hillary Clinton doesn’t need white men


The New York Times today has an article of a kind we’ve seen before and will likely see many times again before this election is over, warning that Hillary Clinton has a serious problem with white men, a problem that could threaten her ability to win a general election:

White men narrowly backed Hillary Clinton in her 2008 race for president, but they are resisting her candidacy this time around in major battleground states, rattling some Democrats about her general-election strategy.

While Mrs. Clinton swept the five major primaries on Tuesday, she lost white men in all of them, and by double-digit margins in Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio, exit polls showed — a sharp turnabout from 2008, when she won double-digit victories among white male voters in all three states…

The fading of white men as a Democratic bloc is hardly new: The last nominee to carry them was Lyndon Johnson in 1964, and many blue-collar “Reagan Democrats” now steadily vote Republican. But Democrats have won about 35 to 40 percent of white men in nearly every presidential election since 1988. And some Democratic leaders say the party needs white male voters to win the presidency, raise large sums of money and, like it or not, maintain credibility as a broad-based national coalition.

I’m not sure who the “Democratic leaders” are who think that, because the only one the article quotes is Bill Richardson, who’s been out of politics for a few years and frankly was never considered a strategic genius to begin with. But here’s the truth: Hillary Clinton doesn’t need white men.

Let’s be more specific. Clinton will have the support of tens of millions of white men. But she doesn’t need to do any better among them than any Democrat has, and even if she does worse, she’ll probably be completely fine.

That’s because whites are declining as a proportion of the electorate as the country grows more diverse with each passing year. In 1992, just 24 years ago, whites made up 87 percent of the voters, according to exit polls. By 2012 the figure had declined to 72 percent. Since women vote at slightly higher rates than men, white men made up around 35 percent of the voters.

Those numbers will be lower this year, which means that even if nothing changes in how non-whites vote, Republicans will need to keep increasing their margins among whites to even stay where they are overall — in other words, to keep losing by the same amount.

[dckingsfan]

I'm not saying I'm a republican (said every republican in a liberal city) but the republicans being this messed up isn't good for the people. Any of the People republican or democrat- conservative or liberal- or any one else. There really isn't a true balance to the force...I mean government if the parties don't truly challenge each other as to not swing the government too far in any direction (left or right). Can you imagine an America where Hillary has NO true mandate from the people but her conscience. Last time a president had a blank slate was....hmmm right after nine eleven. The demcrates really couldn't push back too hard against a war president and...say hello to a whole bunch of attacks on human rights that will never truly be repealed (patriot act) because when the act is ended they didn't repeal everything. They replealed the obvious things and left the truly insidious cracks in your rights in place. Like naturalized citizens can be locked up on terrorism charges and LOSE their citizenship. Hmmm seems logical right...how long till that is extended to those born here? Couple that with Birthers and anything can happen...

I sense the dark side surrounding this election--- clouding everything.

And then you have David Brooks admitting he is out of touch but has the tag line - "No, Not Trump, Not Ever". And then Noonan challenging him that there could be a substantive transformation of the Republican party going on. Democrats coming over... no one really understands what is happening.

Dark forces indeed...

[DCZards]

Zards....why in hell are you voting for Hillary? Hillary and Bill have been nothing but awful to Afican Americans. Probably moreso than Trump could ever be.

Where did I say I was voting for Hillary? But you can be assured that I won't be voting for Trump.

Didn't you say you were going to vote for whoever wins the Democratic primaries?

My bad. I did say that. I'm certainly not going to vote for the Repub nominee so what choice do I have?

[closg00]

Trump is a very sick man with NPD apparently, what is his obsession with Megyn Kelly? Totally unhinged and not Presidential material.

[DCZards]

This kind of worries me a bit... Crazy dems do some silly stuff - like protest his events and then he will say to his supporters to do the same - and then we could have some seriously bad things happen.

There's a BIG difference between "crazy dems" (who may or may not be Democrats) protesting events and a presidential candidate urging his supporters to do the same. That is indeed a recipe for trouble.

[AFM]

I'm waiting for the Trump Kelly sextape.

[crackhed]

it'll last 2 minutes long, and feature a very shaken kelly

[FAH1223]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/711033371946852352[/tweet]

Massive tax cuts for the wealthy, cut all social programs, cut education, destroy the state budget!!

Neo-Liberalism for America! Forever!

[dckingsfan]

This kind of worries me a bit... Crazy dems do some silly stuff - like protest his events and then he will say to his supporters to do the same - and then we could have some seriously bad things happen.

There's a BIG difference between "crazy dems" (who may or may not be Democrats) protesting events and a presidential candidate urging his supporters to do the same. That is indeed a recipe for trouble.

Well, that is exactly my point. Political protesting is part of our process. But I am worried that a few of the crazies will cross the line. And I worry that Trump and his supporters will not have a rational and reasonable response. And that it will escalate to some serious violence.

Maybe you don't share my concern - but to me, it is worrisome.

[dckingsfan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/711033371946852352[/tweet]

Massive tax cuts for the wealthy, cut all social programs, cut education, destroy the state budget!!

Neo-Liberalism for America! Forever!

Well, at least you picked a one sided article - no mention of Illinois

[crackhed]

open letter to donald trump

by glen beck

I know that any man with as much success and power as you have, to spend any of his limited and valuable time, tweeting all night and day after day for months, like a 14 year old boy, means, to me,
that someone must have hurt you badly in your past.

I have been there Donald. I know.

No one will say it, and you certainly won't admit it, but my guess is, you were deeply hurt or abused when you were young.

It explains your entire act.

It is as if you stopped maturing in the 8th grade. You are a 14 year old boy trapped in a 70 year old body.