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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#461 » by blacksun » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:24 pm

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MR PAUL is it true da chandler wants out o PHX??

No, it seems people are taking an answer to a question about wins affecting this year's draft lottery chances and twisting it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcoro/status/711359364460707840


Yeah, if you saw the interview it was clearly regarding playing hard vs losing for better lotto position.


He said way more than necessary, but his answer was taken out of context. Anything for them clicks.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#462 » by SideSwipe » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:04 am

Going along with the Jmac Blake trade above, that leaves us with a very respectable team.

Bled, Booker, Tucker, Griffin, Chandler with a bench of Knight, Goodwin, Jenkins, Williams plus roughly $20 million in FA money, and assuming all three Suns picks this year go to the Clips. A decent Knight trade and some good FA signings, would make that a very tough team. Also for those that say that is a #7 seed- that's fine. A number 7 seed and a respectable showing in the playoffs one year can get us on a lot of FA lists to keep building to a high seed.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#463 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:55 am

SideSwipe wrote:Going along with the Jmac Blake trade above, that leaves us with a very respectable team.

Bled, Booker, Tucker, Griffin, Chandler with a bench of Knight, Goodwin, Jenkins, Williams plus roughly $20 million in FA money, and assuming all three Suns picks this year go to the Clips. A decent Knight trade and some good FA signings, would make that a very tough team. Also for those that say that is a #7 seed- that's fine. A number 7 seed and a respectable showing in the playoffs one year can get us on a lot of FA lists to keep building to a high seed.


I think it would be a first round exit playoff team with the current watered down west after the top 3 or 4, but only if Chandler was healthy and could provide some rim protection and he would likely only get worse over time.

The biggest problem with a Blake trade is the fact that he would be a FA next summer and would probably leave us to go to the Lakers or another big market.

I am excited to build through the draft. I would kind of hate to trade a bunch of guys we've been drafting and developing and probably picks for a probable one year rental.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#464 » by JMac1 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:38 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:Going along with the Jmac Blake trade above, that leaves us with a very respectable team.

Bled, Booker, Tucker, Griffin, Chandler with a bench of Knight, Goodwin, Jenkins, Williams plus roughly $20 million in FA money, and assuming all three Suns picks this year go to the Clips. A decent Knight trade and some good FA signings, would make that a very tough team. Also for those that say that is a #7 seed- that's fine. A number 7 seed and a respectable showing in the playoffs one year can get us on a lot of FA lists to keep building to a high seed.


I think it would be a first round exit playoff team with the current watered down west after the top 3 or 4, but only if Chandler was healthy and could provide some rim protection and he would likely only get worse over time.

The biggest problem with a Blake trade is the fact that he would be a FA next summer and would probably leave us to go to the Lakers or another big market.

I am excited to build through the draft. I would kind of hate to trade a bunch of guys we've been drafting and developing and probably picks for a probable one year rental.


And if the team was better than your prediction, what could happen?
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#465 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:49 am

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SideSwipe wrote:Going along with the Jmac Blake trade above, that leaves us with a very respectable team.

Bled, Booker, Tucker, Griffin, Chandler with a bench of Knight, Goodwin, Jenkins, Williams plus roughly $20 million in FA money, and assuming all three Suns picks this year go to the Clips. A decent Knight trade and some good FA signings, would make that a very tough team. Also for those that say that is a #7 seed- that's fine. A number 7 seed and a respectable showing in the playoffs one year can get us on a lot of FA lists to keep building to a high seed.


I think it would be a first round exit playoff team with the current watered down west after the top 3 or 4, but only if Chandler was healthy and could provide some rim protection and he would likely only get worse over time.

The biggest problem with a Blake trade is the fact that he would be a FA next summer and would probably leave us to go to the Lakers or another big market.

I am excited to build through the draft. I would kind of hate to trade a bunch of guys we've been drafting and developing and probably picks for a probable one year rental.


And if the team was better than your prediction, what could happen?


Well how good do you think they would be? I mean I was saying they could be as high as the 4 seed (assuming Durant stays), and they MAYBE get past the first round in a 4/5 matchup. Do you think that team is better than GS, SA or OKC? I don't know about the Clips...I was going to say they would get worse without Blake but they haven't been, so with whatever they got in return from us, they would probably get better. Then you have Memphis who is legit with Gasol.

If, as you seem to suggest, they were better than OKC, GS or SA or all of them, then yes, maybe Blake would want to stay. But that sounds like a pipe dream to me. I know some around here like to smoke the pipe on occasion, but I don't think adding Blake makes us better than any of those three.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#466 » by saintEscaton » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:52 am

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I think it would be a first round exit playoff team with the current watered down west after the top 3 or 4, but only if Chandler was healthy and could provide some rim protection and he would likely only get worse over time.

The biggest problem with a Blake trade is the fact that he would be a FA next summer and would probably leave us to go to the Lakers or another big market.

I am excited to build through the draft. I would kind of hate to trade a bunch of guys we've been drafting and developing and probably picks for a probable one year rental.


And if the team was better than your prediction, what could happen?


Well how good do you think they would be? I mean I was saying they could be as high as the 4 seed (assuming Durant stays), and they MAYBE get past the first round in a 4/5 matchup. Do you think that team is better than GS, SA or OKC? I don't know about the Clips...I was going to say they would get worse without Blake but they haven't been, so with whatever they got in return from us, they would probably get better. Then you have Memphis who is legit with Gasol.

If, as you seem to suggest, they were better than OKC, GS or SA or all of them, then yes, maybe Blake would want to stay. But that sounds like a pipe dream to me. I know some around here like to smoke the pipe on occasion, but I don't think adding Blake makes us better than any of those three.


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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#467 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:58 am

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And if the team was better than your prediction, what could happen?


Well how good do you think they would be? I mean I was saying they could be as high as the 4 seed (assuming Durant stays), and they MAYBE get past the first round in a 4/5 matchup. Do you think that team is better than GS, SA or OKC? I don't know about the Clips...I was going to say they would get worse without Blake but they haven't been, so with whatever they got in return from us, they would probably get better. Then you have Memphis who is legit with Gasol.

If, as you seem to suggest, they were better than OKC, GS or SA or all of them, then yes, maybe Blake would want to stay. But that sounds like a pipe dream to me. I know some around here like to smoke the pipe on occasion, but I don't think adding Blake makes us better than any of those three.


Our fanbase is getting desperately impatient ,Sarver wants a convenient out from blowing it all up


Our best bet by a long shot to build a contender is through the draft. If we can navigate and find that right star or two to add to the ones we have already drafted, we will be fine. It will be pretty tough to compete with those three I mentioned with for awhile anyway, especially GS and OKC, because they are young. SA isn't likely going anywhere quickly either.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#468 » by JMac1 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:51 am

bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I think it would be a first round exit playoff team with the current watered down west after the top 3 or 4, but only if Chandler was healthy and could provide some rim protection and he would likely only get worse over time.

The biggest problem with a Blake trade is the fact that he would be a FA next summer and would probably leave us to go to the Lakers or another big market.

I am excited to build through the draft. I would kind of hate to trade a bunch of guys we've been drafting and developing and probably picks for a probable one year rental.


And if the team was better than your prediction, what could happen?


Well how good do you think they would be? I mean I was saying they could be as high as the 4 seed (assuming Durant stays), and they MAYBE get past the first round in a 4/5 matchup. Do you think that team is better than GS, SA or OKC? I don't know about the Clips...I was going to say they would get worse without Blake but they haven't been, so with whatever they got in return from us, they would probably get better. Then you have Memphis who is legit with Gasol.

If, as you seem to suggest, they were better than OKC, GS or SA or all of them, then yes, maybe Blake would want to stay. But that sounds like a pipe dream to me. I know some around here like to smoke the pipe on occasion, but I don't think adding Blake makes us better than any of those three.



Well our goal is to get a superstar that is disgruntled because that's the only way it is going to happen. I guess we can get Curry and Durant instead. Or keep picking in the top five in horrible drafts and maybe after 20 years we can make the playoffs......
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#469 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:23 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
And if the team was better than your prediction, what could happen?


Well how good do you think they would be? I mean I was saying they could be as high as the 4 seed (assuming Durant stays), and they MAYBE get past the first round in a 4/5 matchup. Do you think that team is better than GS, SA or OKC? I don't know about the Clips...I was going to say they would get worse without Blake but they haven't been, so with whatever they got in return from us, they would probably get better. Then you have Memphis who is legit with Gasol.

If, as you seem to suggest, they were better than OKC, GS or SA or all of them, then yes, maybe Blake would want to stay. But that sounds like a pipe dream to me. I know some around here like to smoke the pipe on occasion, but I don't think adding Blake makes us better than any of those three.


Our fanbase is getting desperately impatient ,Sarver wants a convenient out from blowing it all up

It's already been blown up. Who are we kidding here?


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Post#470 » by Qwigglez » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:41 am

I don't think Blake Griffin is the answer and I think Cavs/Clips might do a swap of KLove for Griffin.
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Post#471 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:10 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I don't think Blake Griffin is the answer and I think Cavs/Clips might do a swap of KLove for Griffin.


That could make sense.
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Post#472 » by TeamTragic » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:21 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:I don't think Blake Griffin is the answer and I think Cavs/Clips might do a swap of KLove for Griffin.


That could make sense.


It would make sense for Cleveland. Why would Clippers help them?
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#473 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:33 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:I don't think Blake Griffin is the answer and I think Cavs/Clips might do a swap of KLove for Griffin.


That could make sense.


It would make sense for Cleveland. Why would Clippers help them?


Love playing with Paul and Jordan makes more sense than Blake in Cleveland.
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Post#474 » by thamadkant » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:21 am

If suns plan to mingle with the Warriors and Spurs in the next 2 to 3 years.. Then they need backcourt and SF who can become defensive stalwarts... Long, versatile and quick... For switching and guardingbl multiple players.
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Post#475 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:36 am

1UPZ wrote:If suns plan to mingle with the Warriors and Spurs in the next 2 to 3 years.. Then they need backcourt and SF who can become defensive stalwarts... Long, versatile and quick... For switching and guardingbl multiple players.


Hopefully focus is on building a solid foundation for the next 10 years over hoping to mingle with GS and SA in the next 2-3 years.
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Re: The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 

Post#476 » by letsgosuns » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:09 am

Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria 1h1 hour ago
Ben Simmons has withdrawn from school officially and is moving to Phoenix until the NBA Draft, source tells @SNYtv
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Post#477 » by TeamTragic » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:31 am

letsgosuns wrote:Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria 1h1 hour ago
Ben Simmons has withdrawn from school officially and is moving to Phoenix until the NBA Draft, source tells @SNYtv


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Post#479 » by Damkac » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:41 am

Watson's biggest achievement in his short head coach career is raising Kieff's value so Suns got 1st round pick for him. I would be eternally grateful for him if he can do something similar with Chandler and Knight. Maybe try to make Booker/Chandler pick & roll our 1st offensive option and say to Chandler that he must play good if he wants to be traded. If he would end the season with double-double games and good defence maybe he could be traded for expiring at least.
Trading Knight for little return would suck considering what Suns gave for him. So I think he is not going anywhere in nearest future.
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Post#480 » by Bogyo » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:41 am

Damkac wrote:Watson's biggest achievement in his short head coach career is raising Kieff's value so Suns got 1st round pick for him. I would be eternally grateful for him if he can do something similar with Chandler and Knight. Maybe try to make Booker/Chandler pick & roll our 1st offensive option and say to Chandler that he must play good if he wants to be traded. If he would end the season with double-double games and good defence maybe he could be traded for expiring at least.
Trading Knight for little return would suck considering what Suns gave for him. So I think he is not going anywhere in nearest future.


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