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Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#901 » by Nihilism » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:00 pm

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Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#902 » by KingDavid » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:20 pm

Bish has an unhealthy infatuation with Lance. Either that or he's trolling us.

There is no comparison. If that wild head was on our team, we'd be circling the drain. JJ provides incredible spacing. Lance at 18% is worse than Wade from downtown. Let that settle in. It would be us against a zone defense every night if that scrub was here.

You've lost your mind if you think Lance is a better ball handler than joe. Lance does all this fancy crap and turns the ball over or does something stupid, joe actually gets to where he wants to go whenever he wants and scores with ease against anyone. His ball handling and playmaking has made him a multiple allstar. Lance is just a joke.

Yeah Joe can't be the headline of a championship contender, but Lance can't even headline a lottery team.

He plays good D though. That's about it. Dude is like mario/Wario on steroids.
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Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#903 » by QUIZ » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:25 pm

KingDavid wrote:Bish has an unhealthy infatuation with Lance. Either that or he's trolling us.

There is no comparison. If that wild head was on our team, we'd be circling the drain. JJ provides incredible spacing. Lance at 18% is worse than Wade from downtown. Let that settle in. It would be us against a zone defense every night if that scrub was here.

You've lost your mind if you think Lance is a better ball handler than joe. Lance does all this fancy crap and turns the ball over or does something stupid, joe actually gets to where he wants to go whenever he wants and scores with ease against anyone. His ball handling and playmaking has made him a multiple allstar. Lance is just a joke.

Yeah Joe can't be the headline of a championship contender, but Lance can't even headline a lottery team.

He plays good D though. That's about it. Dude is like mario/Wario on steroids.

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Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#904 » by Bishop45 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:30 pm

KingDavid wrote:Bish has an unhealthy infatuation with Lance. Either that or he's trolling us.

There is no comparison. If that wild head was on our team, we'd be circling the drain. JJ provides incredible spacing. Lance at 18% is worse than Wade from downtown. Let that settle in. It would be us against a zone defense every night if that scrub was here.

You've lost your mind if you think Lance is a better ball handler than joe. Lance does all this fancy crap and turns the ball over or does something stupid, joe actually gets to where he wants to go whenever he wants and scores with ease against anyone. His ball handling and playmaking has made him a multiple allstar. Lance is just a joke.

Yeah Joe can't be the headline of a championship contender, but Lance can't even headline a lottery team.

He plays good D though. That's about it. Dude is like mario/Wario on steroids.


I'm honestly not. Joe's overrated, but my point varies. He's on the team, as long as he doesn't embarrass us in the playoffs I'm fine with him being and doing whatever.

I can live with that opinion, although I don't agree at all with some of those generalizations
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Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#906 » by heat4life » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:53 pm

Joe is a needed bonus, just like Ray Allen was for us on those championship teams but this team is going to need Wade, Dragic and Whiteside (or Bosh if he is back) to perform if we are going to win in the playoffs.
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Re: RE: Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#907 » by KingDavid » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:00 pm

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KingDavid wrote:Bish has an unhealthy infatuation with Lance. Either that or he's trolling us.

There is no comparison. If that wild head was on our team, we'd be circling the drain. JJ provides incredible spacing. Lance at 18% is worse than Wade from downtown. Let that settle in. It would be us against a zone defense every night if that scrub was here.

You've lost your mind if you think Lance is a better ball handler than joe. Lance does all this fancy crap and turns the ball over or does something stupid, joe actually gets to where he wants to go whenever he wants and scores with ease against anyone. His ball handling and playmaking has made him a multiple allstar. Lance is just a joke.

Yeah Joe can't be the headline of a championship contender, but Lance can't even headline a lottery team.

He plays good D though. That's about it. Dude is like mario/Wario on steroids.


I'm honestly not. Joe's overrated, but my point varies. He's on the team, as long as he doesn't embarrass us in the playoffs I'm fine with him being and doing whatever.

I can live with that opinion, although I don't agree at all with some of those generalizations


He's on a minimum contract, how's he overrated?

I'm not able to pull up stats at the moment, but a bbref player comparison is indeed in order. If you just like Lance as a player better than joe, that's fine. If you don't like Joe because he was overpaid for his production, then you must fiercely dislike Arenas...and other players I can name that took full advantage of the market and cashed out, that's fine. But when comparing production, idk if there's much of a comparison. Maybe there is and I don't know...but I don't mind finding out.

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Re: RE: Re: Cleveland @ Miami - Saturday, March 19, 7:30 PM. 

Post#908 » by Bishop45 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:12 pm

KingDavid wrote:
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KingDavid wrote:Bish has an unhealthy infatuation with Lance. Either that or he's trolling us.

There is no comparison. If that wild head was on our team, we'd be circling the drain. JJ provides incredible spacing. Lance at 18% is worse than Wade from downtown. Let that settle in. It would be us against a zone defense every night if that scrub was here.

You've lost your mind if you think Lance is a better ball handler than joe. Lance does all this fancy crap and turns the ball over or does something stupid, joe actually gets to where he wants to go whenever he wants and scores with ease against anyone. His ball handling and playmaking has made him a multiple allstar. Lance is just a joke.

Yeah Joe can't be the headline of a championship contender, but Lance can't even headline a lottery team.

He plays good D though. That's about it. Dude is like mario/Wario on steroids.


I'm honestly not. Joe's overrated, but my point varies. He's on the team, as long as he doesn't embarrass us in the playoffs I'm fine with him being and doing whatever.

I can live with that opinion, although I don't agree at all with some of those generalizations


He's on a minimum contract, how's he overrated?

I'm not able to pull up stats at the moment, but a bbref player comparison is indeed in order. If you just like Lance as a player better than joe, that's fine. If you don't like Joe because he was overpaid for his production, then you must fiercely dislike Arenas...and other players I can name that took full advantage of the market and cashed out, that's fine. But when comparing production, idk if there's much of a comparison. Maybe there is and I don't know...but I don't mind finding out.

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Overrated not overpaid. I love him for the price we are able to have him. All this Joe saved our season stuff is what I responded to and that was a while ago. I made no effort to compare Joe and Lance, if you were reading our conversation earlier, that was Quiz who brought them two up. For all that's given, Joe just isn't an impact player and he's not changing that narrative. Hell even for comparison on a grandeur scale, PER of which is an accumulative offensive grade would have him under Lance... Where offense is supposedly his only and most potent venture. He's a smart basketball player, I definitely don't mind him but the hyperbole's about him and his impact are cringe-worthy

I'd love him on the bench next year.
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Post#909 » by KingDavid » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:58 pm

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I'm honestly not. Joe's overrated, but my point varies. He's on the team, as long as he doesn't embarrass us in the playoffs I'm fine with him being and doing whatever.

I can live with that opinion, although I don't agree at all with some of those generalizations


He's on a minimum contract, how's he overrated?

I'm not able to pull up stats at the moment, but a bbref player comparison is indeed in order. If you just like Lance as a player better than joe, that's fine. If you don't like Joe because he was overpaid for his production, then you must fiercely dislike Arenas...and other players I can name that took full advantage of the market and cashed out, that's fine. But when comparing production, idk if there's much of a comparison. Maybe there is and I don't know...but I don't mind finding out.

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Overrated not overpaid. I love him for the price we are able to have him. All this Joe saved our season stuff is what I responded to and that was a while ago. I made no effort to compare Joe and Lance, if you were reading our conversation earlier, that was Quiz who brought them two up. For all that's given, Joe just isn't an impact player and he's not changing that narrative. Hell even for comparison on a grandeur scale, PER of which is an accumulative offensive grade would have him under Lance... Where offense is supposedly his only and most potent venture. He's a smart basketball player, I definitely don't mind him but the hyperbole's about him and his impact are cringe-worthy

I'd love him on the bench next year.


Oh I'm sorry bish. My reading comprehension failed me again. You know I'm quick to defend anyone wearing our uniform!

Before the Cleveland game, joe was part of our worst defensive lineups. That was a consistency that The lebatard show pointed out. The Cleveland game, joe was a different player defensively. If that's the Joe we get from here on out (I'll believe when I see it) then we can say he saved our season. What he has provided so far is next-level spacing and high iq play. But he was bleeding us out on defense. Except against cleveland.

Our best lineups are with whiteside, winslow, and richardson + any two players. Since the allstar break, those are the players that are saving us. I can't wait to see what Bosh does with all of them when he returns.

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