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Post#1921 » by ddb » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:01 pm

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robbie84 wrote:Has anyone watched much of Ben Bentil?
Can he defend? Looked pretty average on D in the few games I've watched, but reminds me a lot of Draymond Green on the offensive end.

In which world does Bentil reminds you of Draymond? they play 0 alike, Bentil is a scorer, he has the midrange shooting and can score inside, his 3pt is still inconsistent but he will be a solid shooter, the problem is that defensively he is more of a smallball C, but he cant protect the rim, havent seen him defend the p&r or switching onto perimeter players at all.
He reminds me of Al Harrington, he is basically a back-up scoring big, to give you a scoring punch from the bench.


Bentil can score on the block, and pick n pop. Nice offensive PF/C prospect. Needs to defend more. Plays like MSpeights a bit
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Post#1922 » by ddb » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:10 pm

As the NCAA year approaches it's end, my top 7 has changed.

I still have Simmons/Ingram as my Top 2. But from there I have moved Buddy Hield up to #3. I had him mid lottery for awhile but I can no longer ignore how good he is. His game is going to translate very well. At the very least I think he can be a CJ McCollum type player in the NBA.

From there I have Kris Dunn, Dragden Bender (Bender is the mystery man) at 4/5

DMurray, JMurray, JBrown, IRabb, Skal are the guys I look at beyond the Top 5.

If Boston is at #3, #4 or #5 and Hield is available, I think you draft him and figure it out later. Make deals.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 2015-16 

Post#1923 » by Edug27 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:40 pm

ddb wrote:As the NCAA year approaches it's end, my top 7 has changed.

I still have Simmons/Ingram as my Top 2. But from there I have moved Buddy Hield up to #3. I had him mid lottery for awhile but I can no longer ignore how good he is. His game is going to translate very well. At the very least I think he can be a CJ McCollum type player in the NBA.

From there I have Kris Dunn, Dragden Bender (Bender is the mystery man) at 4/5

DMurray, JMurray, JBrown, IRabb, Skal are the guys I look at beyond the Top 5.

If Boston is at #3, #4 or #5 and Hield is available, I think you draft him and figure it out later. Make deals.


Spot on. Although I do think Dunn and Hields age may work against them if a team like Philly ends up with the 3/4 picks. They'd probably want the 20 year old rather than the 23.
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Post#1924 » by 24istheLAW » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:06 pm

Timothe Luwawu is fascinating to me. The combo of proto-facilitating skills, the way he finishes through the contact, the shot trajectory, the obvious defensive tools... fascinating.

Its hard to compare him to the NCAA prospects but the blend of floor and ceiling with him is attractive. If the shot is real you've got a higher floor than most NBA prospects as a 3&d payer on the wing. And if his playmaking skills continue to develop, the sky is the limit on his ceiling.
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Post#1925 » by Antetogumbo » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:05 pm

https://youtu.be/VeC7a92gEdg

Really like this dude, if we get 3 or 4 pick i would be happy if we picked heild.
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Post#1926 » by ddb » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:45 pm

Antetogumbo wrote:https://youtu.be/VeC7a92gEdg

Really like this dude, if we get 3 or 4 pick i would be happy if we picked heild.


great stuff. That's the type of gym rat we want. But there would need to be trades beyond that. Can't go into next season with IT-Bradley-Smart-Hield-Rozier-Hunter-Young-Crowder all in the fold at guard/wing spots...that's not even counting Turner if he re-signs, or any free agents (Durant) Just can't happen. Deals would need to happen.
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Post#1927 » by Ben-N1ce » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:51 pm

Antetogumbo wrote:https://youtu.be/VeC7a92gEdg

Really like this dude, if we get 3 or 4 pick i would be happy if we picked heild.


Yep.
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Post#1928 » by Gomes3PC » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:27 pm

ddb wrote:
Fischella wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Has anyone watched much of Ben Bentil?
Can he defend? Looked pretty average on D in the few games I've watched, but reminds me a lot of Draymond Green on the offensive end.

In which world does Bentil reminds you of Draymond? they play 0 alike, Bentil is a scorer, he has the midrange shooting and can score inside, his 3pt is still inconsistent but he will be a solid shooter, the problem is that defensively he is more of a smallball C, but he cant protect the rim, havent seen him defend the p&r or switching onto perimeter players at all.
He reminds me of Al Harrington, he is basically a back-up scoring big, to give you a scoring punch from the bench.


Bentil can score on the block, and pick n pop. Nice offensive PF/C prospect. Needs to defend more. Plays like MSpeights a bit

He's not gonna cut it at C in the NBA as he's probably 6-7. That said, he is lightning quick, strong as a bull and has NBA range for a big, so I could see him becoming an energy big for an uptempo team.
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Post#1929 » by Gomes3PC » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:28 pm

Antetogumbo wrote:https://youtu.be/VeC7a92gEdg

Really like this dude, if we get 3 or 4 pick i would be happy if we picked heild.

That would be a major mistake.
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Post#1930 » by KumaJG » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:43 pm

I like Buud Hield...dont think he is top 3-5 worthy. Plus I am kinda combo guard fatigue.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 2015-16 

Post#1931 » by robbie84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:06 am

Fischella wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Has anyone watched much of Ben Bentil?
Can he defend? Looked pretty average on D in the few games I've watched, but reminds me a lot of Draymond Green on the offensive end.

In which world does Bentil reminds you of Draymond? they play 0 alike, Bentil is a scorer, he has the midrange shooting and can score inside, his 3pt is still inconsistent but he will be a solid shooter, the problem is that defensively he is more of a smallball C, but he cant protect the rim, havent seen him defend the p&r or switching onto perimeter players at all.
He reminds me of Al Harrington, he is basically a back-up scoring big, to give you a scoring punch from the bench.


Yes, you basically just described Draymond Green on offense. lol. I said his D would need work.
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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Post#1932 » by robbie84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:07 am

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One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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Post#1933 » by No-Man » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:15 am

robbie84 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Has anyone watched much of Ben Bentil?
Can he defend? Looked pretty average on D in the few games I've watched, but reminds me a lot of Draymond Green on the offensive end.

In which world does Bentil reminds you of Draymond? they play 0 alike, Bentil is a scorer, he has the midrange shooting and can score inside, his 3pt is still inconsistent but he will be a solid shooter, the problem is that defensively he is more of a smallball C, but he cant protect the rim, havent seen him defend the p&r or switching onto perimeter players at all.
He reminds me of Al Harrington, he is basically a back-up scoring big, to give you a scoring punch from the bench.


Yes, you basically just described Draymond Green on offense. lol. I said his D would need work.

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Post#1934 » by threrf23 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:18 am

I tend to think that Caris Levert is getting slept on a bit. Anybody gonna disagree? The guy gained about 55 pounds in college (started at 150 lbs), I am thinking that could be an explanation for his leg/foot injury issues.
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Post#1935 » by peachbucket » Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:23 am

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Buddy is making me feel a lot better about this draft...love his lightning quick release which enables him to get his shot off without much separation. Reminds me a bit of Michael Redd.
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Post#1936 » by Captain_Caveman » Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:31 am

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Crazy graph until you actually read it.
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Post#1937 » by pfm » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:56 am

The scale on that chart is hilarious.
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Post#1938 » by BfB » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:08 am

robbie84 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Has anyone watched much of Ben Bentil?
Can he defend? Looked pretty average on D in the few games I've watched, but reminds me a lot of Draymond Green on the offensive end.

In which world does Bentil reminds you of Draymond? they play 0 alike, Bentil is a scorer, he has the midrange shooting and can score inside, his 3pt is still inconsistent but he will be a solid shooter, the problem is that defensively he is more of a smallball C, but he cant protect the rim, havent seen him defend the p&r or switching onto perimeter players at all.
He reminds me of Al Harrington, he is basically a back-up scoring big, to give you a scoring punch from the bench.


Yes, you basically just described Draymond Green on offense. lol. I said his D would need work.


No - ball handling, playmaking, and defense define Dray. Bentil is a scorer only at this point.

He needs to show a better commitnent to defense and rebounding at the NBA level to make an impact beyond occassional scoring punch. I'm very intrigued to see if he does so.
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Post#1939 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:09 pm

peachbucket wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Image


Buddy is making me feel a lot better about this draft...love his lightning quick release which enables him to get his shot off without much separation. Reminds me a bit of Michael Redd.

Adam Morrison had a 61% true shooting percentage.
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Post#1940 » by 24istheLAW » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:13 pm

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This is the worst graph in the universe.

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