Rudy Gobert: Future DPOY

[Litany]

Wow, the hype train is really careening down the tracks now.

I think it would be wise to pull back on the throttle just a bit. He's had a nice run, but, lots of guys have had nice runs. And he's never going to be an MVP unless he's giving you more scoring.

There will be plenty of time later to get that hype train running at full speed later if he can maintain this level of play or even improve.

I think the only risk at this point is injury. He is dominating defensively. That isn't changing.

When a guy gets a good run offensively, like Lin, teams have time to figure him out and learn his weaknesses and how to defend him.

I can't see teams learning how to attack Rudy much better. He's just too athletic, long and quick. He's a menace down low and at this point is in defenders heads when they attack the paint because they may think they are in the clear, but he covers ground so quickly, they aren't.

His weakness can at times be getting backed down by some of the bigger guys like Brook Lopez, but if Rudy adds 10 pounds of muscle I dont see it as a major issue. Rudy did much better in the 2nd half vs Lopez.

I think he's franchise changing talent. I don't see an MVP in there unless his offense grows a lot, as you said, but multiple DPOY's? Yeah. I see it.

[Superbasketball]

I think Gobert can average 20 pts though not sure how long it would take. Depends on how fast he improves his offense.

[dautjazz]

Wow, the hype train is really careening down the tracks now.

I think it would be wise to pull back on the throttle just a bit. He's had a nice run, but, lots of guys have had nice runs. And he's never going to be an MVP unless he's giving you more scoring.

There will be plenty of time later to get that hype train running at full speed later if he can maintain this level of play or even improve.

Who cares about MVPs, many have gotten it, and it hasn't done a thing for their team's championship hopes. Look how valuable Ben Wallace was for Detroit, I think Gobert can become that, and a little more, but without being such an offensive liability,

I think what Utah is doing is in the mold of a Spurs team, more about a system and team play, than stars. I think this is a combination of Snyder's system and what our GM, Lindsey, learned in San Antonio.

This team very much reminds me of the 2004 Pistons

Gobert - B.Wallace - Defensive anchor
D.Favors - R.Wallace - All-Star PF
Hayward - R.Hamilton - Scoring wing
Exum - Billups - Defensive PG

[Litany]

Pretty sweet video put up on the NBA's youtube channel:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJ__4ke_wI[/youtube]

I just love Rudy's fire. He wants to kick your a**

[JimmyTD3]

Haven't watched him play this year but the dude has to have the best nickname(s) in the NBA.

I especially love The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, and The Gobert Report

[TdotBasketball]

Haven't watched him play this year but the dude has to have the best nickname(s) in the NBA.

I especially love The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, and The Gobert Report

The Stifle Tower

....Brazzers.com

[CodyB_]

7+ Footer, Huge Wingspan, Mobile, feel for the game and not a headcase probably makes him a generational talent in the same tier Giannis A.

Frankly at this point I don't see Giannis as the same tier as Gobert at all. Giannis is much more of a run-of-the-mill "superstar prospect" who shows great athleticism and "doing just fine for how young he is" play. Gobert is outright turning a franchise around and is putting up rim protection stats that are just crazy.

I'm inclined to agree.

Gobert's been nothing short of amazing this season. I lump the two together because they might be the only guys in the league not named Anthony Davis or Kawhi Leonard to have length, mobility, basketball IQ and right attitude. It's exciting.

[inquisitive]

i am hoping Clint Capela will be the next Rudy Gobert, but he is always playing in slow motion

[TwoStarz]

His offensive game leaves alot to be desired and from the games I've seen he isn't as dominate of a rebounder as he should be. He needs to put on some weight

[HawaiianJazzFan]

His offensive game leaves alot to be desired and from the games I've seen he isn't as dominate of a rebounder as he should be. He needs to put on some weight

His last two games haven't been great, but his rebounding has been pretty awesome. He is 4th best overall in rebounding rate. Among qualified players he is only behind Deandre Jordan, Drummond, and Omer Asik. Since the all star break, when he became the starter he is averaging 14.3 rebounds in 16 games. Specifically, in March he is averaging 16.2 rebounds. He is also the only NBA player this season to have a double double in the first quarter. The amount of rebounds are even more amazing when you consider that Utah plays at the slowest pace in the NBA. I don't know what more you could ask from him as a rebounder. He has had like 4 games of 20 or more rebounds since the all star break. I think the bigger problem right now is the Jazz need a little more front court depth. I think Gobert is getting a little tired because he is playing, other than Hayward, the most minutes on our team since the all star break.

[Pure_Basketball]

From the few games I've seen from Gobert, his defense and rebounding has been good, but he's an a absolute liability on offense, he's just in the way and when he does get the ball passed to him he turns it over, or just looks flat out clumsy trying to score.

That's where I think the difference is between him and Whiteside, Whiteside looks great on offense with a range of moves offensively including a jumper. Bought was literally sitting under the rim defending Gobert which stuffs the spacing for Utah. That being said it's not all about offense and he is so young that he has a huge amount of time to atleast become serviceable on that end with some hook shots and a baby jumper.

[Xsy]

Whiteside is also like ... three years older, and a headcase.

GSW beat the Jazz tonight in transition, and from the midrange and three. Not a good game for Gobert to show his talents.

[beach house]

i remember when warriors were nonstopgrabbing high risk high ceiling bigs with lottery picks for like a whole decade from 2000-2010
biedrins, pat obryant, diogu, ekpe udoh, anthony randolph.
or trading for them on draft night like brandan wright

all for the hopes of landing a gobert type player
unfortunately for us all the bigs mentioned above turned out to be busts

utah lands the coveted "high ceiling big" with a 2nd round pick smh

congrats to utah fans

[HawaiianJazzFan]

From the few games I've seen from Gobert, his defense and rebounding has been good, but he's an a absolute liability on offense, he's just in the way and when he does get the ball passed to him he turns it over, or just looks flat out clumsy trying to score.

That's where I think the difference is between him and Whiteside, Whiteside looks great on offense with a range of moves offensively including a jumper. Bought was literally sitting under the rim defending Gobert which stuffs the spacing for Utah. That being said it's not all about offense and he is so young that he has a huge amount of time to atleast become serviceable on that end with some hook shots and a baby jumper.

Hassan is definitely the more polished offensive player at this point. The one advantage on offense that I think Gobert has, is Gobert is already a really good passer. I also think that Gobert as of right now is better defensively. Whiteside's blocks are decent but his rim protection numbers aren't great at all, and the more he plays the poorer they get. I mean he isn't doing a terrible job by any means, but he isn't even in the top 20 anymore for players defending at least 3 FGA a game. Gobert has been the best rim protector the entire season. The other big difference is the foul rates. Hassan fouls at a much higher rate than Gobert. I think the one thing that Hassan could learn from Gobert, is that you don't need to go after every block to defend the paint well. Gobert's block numbers have been slipping but his rim defense has remained the same.

[nybluemeadow]

He's shooting .692 from the line this year. Not mindblowing, but hardly "horrible".

What I like about him for a young big, especially one that contests shots often, is that his foul rate is pretty low, and his block-to-foul ratio is pretty high. Shows that he can play hard and smart. Can be a bit fumbly and turn the ball over a little too much on offense though, considering his role.

I see him turning out like Tyson Chandler, or at least being molded into that type of player. Pretty good value for an foreign big coming late in the first round. Seems to be a lot further along and much more of a sure thing than someone of similar age and size like Lucas Nogueira, who was taken eleven spots higher in the same draft.

When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line??? he is shooting .650 from the line. like i said, he is a good prospect and i can see him at 12/9 role player, but he won't be able to play in the fourth and finish games unless its a blow out. he needs to do better than JaVale McGee and Mark Eaton and improve on his free throw shooting

Gobert has great form on his FT shooting... he'll be fine, I don't know why you are so worried about it, no one in our organization is. You should relax man, that is like the one thing you keep pointing out over and over, it can't be good for your blood pressure to worry that much. You haven't mentioned any other aspect of his game. When Karl Malone was 22 he shot FT's at 48%, plus rudy is a hard worker. He needs to do better than Mark Eaton? Mark Eaton averaged 9.7 ppg 11.3 rpg 5.6 bpg playing all 82 games in a season once. If he's better than Eaton, he'll be scary good.

Gobert has looked really bad and it looks like he has lost the hype. He is not even close to being a DPOY this year or even all defensive team. His free throw shooting also looks horrible and his holding him back in closing out games. He has just bad shooting form like DeAndre and Drummond. I think Gobert is shooting .500 from the line. He will never be a Tyson Chandler type of player if he can't play the fourth quarter and shoot 70% from the free throw line

[HawaiianJazzFan]

When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line??? he is shooting .650 from the line. like i said, he is a good prospect and i can see him at 12/9 role player, but he won't be able to play in the fourth and finish games unless its a blow out. he needs to do better than JaVale McGee and Mark Eaton and improve on his free throw shooting

Gobert has great form on his FT shooting... he'll be fine, I don't know why you are so worried about it, no one in our organization is. You should relax man, that is like the one thing you keep pointing out over and over, it can't be good for your blood pressure to worry that much. You haven't mentioned any other aspect of his game. When Karl Malone was 22 he shot FT's at 48%, plus rudy is a hard worker. He needs to do better than Mark Eaton? Mark Eaton averaged 9.7 ppg 11.3 rpg 5.6 bpg playing all 82 games in a season once. If he's better than Eaton, he'll be scary good.

Gobert has looked really bad and it looks like he has lost the hype. He is not even close to being a DPOY this year or even all defensive team. His free throw shooting also looks horrible and his holding him back in closing out games. He has just bad shooting form like DeAndre and Drummond. I think Gobert is shooting .500 from the line. He will never be a Tyson Chandler type of player if he can't play the fourth quarter and shoot 70% from the free throw line

Still the number one rim protector top ten rebounder and he's shooting 60% from the line (59%). He was also injured for 20 games and is adjusting to being scouted much more heavily.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

Gobert has great form on his FT shooting... he'll be fine, I don't know why you are so worried about it, no one in our organization is. You should relax man, that is like the one thing you keep pointing out over and over, it can't be good for your blood pressure to worry that much. You haven't mentioned any other aspect of his game. When Karl Malone was 22 he shot FT's at 48%, plus rudy is a hard worker. He needs to do better than Mark Eaton? Mark Eaton averaged 9.7 ppg 11.3 rpg 5.6 bpg playing all 82 games in a season once. If he's better than Eaton, he'll be scary good.

Gobert has looked really bad and it looks like he has lost the hype. He is not even close to being a DPOY this year or even all defensive team. His free throw shooting also looks horrible and his holding him back in closing out games. He has just bad shooting form like DeAndre and Drummond. I think Gobert is shooting .500 from the line. He will never be a Tyson Chandler type of player if he can't play the fourth quarter and shoot 70% from the free throw line

Still the number one rim protector top ten rebounder and he's shooting 60% from the line (59%). He was also injured for 20 games and is adjusting to being scouted much more heavily.

He's also top ten in defensive rpm. The Jazz are a top ten defense despite not having Exum, and after the all star break they are top 5.

[TKainZero]

I think gobert has been injured a bit this year which has limited his ability.
Utah doesn't have problems in the low post with Favors-Gobert
Exum going down is what really set their year back.

[Daddy 801]

The injury has clearly had an impact on him. Hopefully the offseason will get him back to form.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM

Defensive RPM leaders:
1. Bogut 21 mpg
2. Duncan 24.8 mpg
3. Deandre Jordan 34.2 mpg
4. Draymond Green 34.5 mpg
5. Ian Mahinmi 25.3 mpg
6. Kawhi 32.8 mpg.
7. RUDY GOBERT 32.4mpg

Yeah his defense sucks.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016_leaders.html
3rd in block percentage
8th in rebounding rate
10th in defensive rating
2nd in defensive plus/minus

Yeah his defense sucks.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?sort=DEF_RIM_FG_PCT&dir=-1&CF=MIN*G*15%7CBLK*G*1

Rim protectors who play at least 20 mpg:

1. Rudy Gobert
2. Serge Ibaka
3. Andrew Bogut
4. Biyombo
5-6 both Gasols

Yeah his defense sucks

I guess it's dumb arguing with someone who can't even look up a player's FT percentage properly and who posts after Gobert's had a few rough games.

Still having an impact despite the knee injury he has suffered and considering he doesn't have Exum as a perimeter defender.