Superteam vs Rebuild?

[myersia]

I was thinking about the Celtics before they got KG and Ray. They had a young Al Jefferson and appeared to be in a similar flux as we currently are. I know it is highly unlikely that we get the ability to make a super team this year. But nonetheless I would just like to open up the discussion if Bron came to us and said hey I am interested in coming to the lakers but could you sign Wade and trade for melo and CP3 would you do it? Or would you stick with the young guns and rebuild for the long term? I just want to hear your thoughts.

[Spanish_Laker]

I'd stick to our young core without hesitating. I wouldn't roll the dice on an aging core of superstars and then become the Brooklyn Nets, a terrible team without picks for years. I don't want to experience another 2012-13 Lakers. I think our core of Russell, Clarkson, Randle and company could turn into something special sooner than later.

[Slava]

Even with the super teams you had atleast one guy who was with the franchise for a while and knew what it meant. In the Celtics' case it was Pierce, in Miami's case it was Wade, Lebron at Cavs and in Lakers' case it was Kobe & Pau even if that did not work out too well owing to the lack of cohesion between the rest. If we get those guys it might work out as I can see CP3 being a very driven guy who will get things together but it certainly won't feel like a Lakers win unless we have atleast one building block come through the franchise.

[iamworthy]

I'd tell Lebron to get the hell out of here. Lakers are currently in a very good position. We have really good young pieces that are going to get better, possibly a top 3 pick, and a ton of cap space. If played right lakers can set this team up nice for the next 15 yrs. Ill pass on the super team that MIGHT produce something for 1-3 years.

[ratra_1211]

I'd tell Lebron to get the hell out of here. Lakers are currently in a very good position. We have really good young pieces that are going to get better, possibly a top 3 pick, and a ton of cap space. If played right lakers can set this team up nice for the next 15 yrs. Ill pass on the super team that MIGHT produce something for 1-3 years.

its nice to see someone with the same stance as i do on this kinda stuff

[myersia]

What's nice is we have so much cap space and our young valuable pieces that we honestly may be in the best position out of all NBA teams to be a true contender in several years if we get the right pieces. A super team that included Durant, Russell, someone like Boogie would be something I would have to consider. Any team with Bron is intriguing. I am just happy we have the magic to make anything happen.

[trevm37]

With the way the warriors and spurs look, why not take some time rebuilding?

[ALL HAIL]

Tradewise, if all it took were: (1) Randle and Lou Williams for Carmelo Anthony and (2) the #3 pick and Anthony Brown for Chris Paul, I'd be all for it ...

Keeping Russell here to be tutored by a bunch of HOFers for a handful of years is priceless to me, and it secures a "life" after the old guys hang'em up.

[DTouch]

With the cap we have just tell Lebron tto recruit wade and durant. Why waste asset on playoff choker cp3 and that perennial loser melo. We all know how james playing gm worked out with the love/wiggins deal. For what love has given them, they could found much cheaper alternatives that do the same thing which is what frye has given them. If anything love is getting traded this summer if frye can keep up his 3pt shooting

[ALL HAIL]

What's nice is that all the role players that'd be needed to make it come together are already on the roster.

[ALL HAIL]

I'd start James at center, Carmelo at PF, and Nickk Young at the three.

Russell would lead the bench along with Bass and Kelly.

Until his jumper came along, Nance would play on the frontline maybe 15 minutes a games (ONLY with LBJ and Carmelo), as my early-Rodman type designated, disrupter, defensive stopper/hustle, energy guy (@ 3,4, and 5).

It'd all depend in those trades for me though. I'm not breaking the bank for Paul and Anthony.

[Vae Victus]

If we're serious about making a Superteam asap (assuming we draft Simmons or Ingram), then i think what we need to do is swallow our pride and try to sign Dwight Howard for a 1 year +1 player option max and go from there. Yea yea cue all the complaints/insults, but he's the "best" attainable big on the market and with him as a main piece we can use him to try to entice a top flight FA.

C - Dwight
PF- Randle, Nance
SF- Simmons, Brown
SG- DD?, Young (although i doubt he'll be around after the latest scandal)
PG - DLo, Lou (god i want this chucker traded)

From here we still have a max slot available, and while everyone's pipe dream is Durant, realistically we can sign someone like Demar DeRozan, who i think does everything we need except shoot 3s at an elite rate. Hire a good coach and we're easily a playoff team (my pick is Blatt). We got 2 playmakers in DLo/Simmons, finishers everywhere else. 3pt shooting is gonna be bad, but DLo gets the best PnR partner in DHo and an ok post option as well. It's not IDEAL but its realistic and workable in the short and maybe long term as we figure out Simmons final position and get a real 3D SF if he's not one and trade Randle for whatever we can get to fill holes.

Hand off a crap pick to PHI and laugh at their faces, see where things are with DHo. By limiting it to a 1+1 deal we massively reduce our risk if he gets hurt and sucks. If he balls out, well victory heals all wounds and we can determine how much we wanna pay him then. He bolts due to balling out then we're in MUCH better position to lure topflight FA compared to this year as we were in the playoff hunt and had a good showing. Try to go after Boogie at this point would be my suggestion, using Randle as the main bait.

Now i wouldnt necessarily go down this path, no point trying to rebuild ASAP since even best case scenario (we magically draft Simmons, sign DHo, KD) we still get murdered by SA or GSW. But then the upside to rebuilding early is that we dont have to worry about our giving high picks to PHI like hapless BRK is forced to do this year (and coupla future drafts too OUCH).

[Kilroy]

Judging from past experience, I think you want someone other than LeBron building your team...

Also you have to remember, these guys all started in the league young and already have a ton of miles on them... They're on the Kobe career trajectory, not the Kareem... Passing 30 was a real significant milestone for them and passing 35 may be pretty much game over... They all look like shells of their former selves already, and Wade is just about done. In all honesty, I'm not sure that's even a "Super Team" in this league... Who takes the last shot? My guess would be 'Player 5.'

It's a bad mix of talent and age IMO, and if LeBron brought it to us, I'd probably push back a little.

That said, if we can sign LeBron or Durant (personally my first choice), it immediately changes our build mode. Should make things much easier. So you do what you can to bring him here, but you don't turn over the franchise to him.

[DTouch]

If we're serious about making a Superteam asap (assuming we draft Simmons or Ingram), then i think what we need to do is swallow our pride and try to sign Dwight Howard for a 1 year +1 player option max and go from there. Yea yea cue all the complaints/insults, but he's the "best" attainable big on the market and with him as a main piece we can use him to try to entice a top flight FA.

C - Dwight
PF- Randle, Nance
SF- Simmons, Brown
SG- DD?, Young (although i doubt he'll be around after the latest scandal)
PG - DLo, Lou (god i want this chucker traded)

From here we still have a max slot available, and while everyone's pipe dream is Durant, realistically we can sign someone like Demar DeRozan, who i think does everything we need except shoot 3s at an elite rate. Hire a good coach and we're easily a playoff team (my pick is Blatt). We got 2 playmakers in DLo/Simmons, finishers everywhere else. 3pt shooting is gonna be bad, but DLo gets the best PnR partner in DHo and an ok post option as well. It's not IDEAL but its realistic and workable in the short and maybe long term as we figure out Simmons final position and get a real 3D SF if he's not one and trade Randle for whatever we can get to fill holes.

Hand off a crap pick to PHI and laugh at their faces, see where things are with DHo. By limiting it to a 1+1 deal we massively reduce our risk if he gets hurt and sucks. If he balls out, well victory heals all wounds and we can determine how much we wanna pay him then. He bolts due to balling out then we're in MUCH better position to lure topflight FA compared to this year as we were in the playoff hunt and had a good showing. Try to go after Boogie at this point would be my suggestion, using Randle as the main bait.

Now i wouldnt necessarily go down this path, no point trying to rebuild ASAP since even best case scenario (we magically draft Simmons, sign DHo, KD) we still get murdered by SA or GSW. But then the upside to rebuilding early is that we dont have to worry about our giving high picks to PHI like hapless BRK is forced to do this year (and coupla future drafts too OUCH).

Thats not a super team....thats a fringe playoff team....thats a terrible spacing team....this is just a variant of the bucks. ...they have a ver talented trio with parker/giannis/Middleton but only Middleton shoots 3s well

[SlimShady83]

If Lakers ever got Lebron - I'd just stop following the Lakers Period. I'd choose Durant over him any day of the week.
Id choose Westbrook over Wade any day of the week.
I'd choose Irving over CP3
And Melo - well I'd just never pic him as he ain't no winner. Sorry melo fans.

This of course is just my Opinion

[politm]

If Lakers ever got Lebron - I'd just stop following the Lakers Period. I'd choose Durant over him any day of the week.
Id choose Westbrook over Wade any day of the week.
I'd choose Irving over CP3
And Melo - well I'd just never pic him as he ain't no winner. Sorry melo fans.

This of course is just my Opinion

We're in no position to chose. If Bron says "I wanna' sign with the Lakers" there is no way we're telling him to gtfo.

[SlimShady83]

If Lakers ever got Lebron - I'd just stop following the Lakers Period. I'd choose Durant over him any day of the week.
Id choose Westbrook over Wade any day of the week.
I'd choose Irving over CP3
And Melo - well I'd just never pic him as he ain't no winner. Sorry melo fans.

This of course is just my Opinion

We're in no position to chose. If Bron says "I wanna' sign with the Lakers" there is no way we're telling him to gtfo.

lol I know that - we can barely even get Durant and yet everyone talking about a superteam lol.
I don't want no superteam

[DTouch]

If Lakers ever got Lebron - I'd just stop following the Lakers Period. I'd choose Durant over him any day of the week.
Id choose Westbrook over Wade any day of the week.
I'd choose Irving over CP3
And Melo - well I'd just never pic him as he ain't no winner. Sorry melo fans.

This of course is just my Opinion

Yes you can choose but those players decision matter more than yours lol

[gts1]

Rebuild... We're just digging out of the hole the last shot at building a superteam put the Lakers in. These aren't stars entering the peak of their careers...

Aging stars with lot's of mileage on them is just one injury away from setting the team back another 4 to 5 years. With the way the CBA works now it's not something you go for and if it doesn't work you change direction and within a season you're back to where you were, now you screw up your hands are tied financially for years

[TylersLakers]

You go with the young guys and plan that way. With that said, you keep the flexibility for scenarios like this open. We have the salary cap to absorb three max players and if LeBron and KD want to team up then absolutely you bring them on. You'd be a fool not to. Just keep the flexibility that we have and keep on building assets like Randle, Nance, Russell, Clarkson, etc.