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Toodles1980 wrote:I don't know if this has been posted yet (I looked, but couldn't find it so I'm guessing not), but here is the Planning Commission's zoning page for the arena which includes detailed drawings of the development. Pretty interesting to look through. http://city.milwaukee.gov/CityPlanCommissionCPC/ArenaZoning.htm#.VvqojmOrayo
mcfromage wrote:Toodles1980 wrote:I don't know if this has been posted yet (I looked, but couldn't find it so I'm guessing not), but here is the Planning Commission's zoning page for the arena which includes detailed drawings of the development. Pretty interesting to look through. http://city.milwaukee.gov/CityPlanCommissionCPC/ArenaZoning.htm#.VvqojmOrayo
Awesome find, thanks for posting.
MadBlueEdwards wrote:We should place bets on whether we're going to be an "Arena" team or a "Center" team. Maybe they go all trend-setter and call it a "Plaza".
paulpressey25 wrote:Guys, I looked hard at those schematics. I don't see a skywalk. Sure, they have ghosted in a skywalk in the sole artists exterior rendering, but no reference to it on the actual floor by floor plans.
paulpressey25 wrote:Guys, I looked hard at those schematics. I don't see a skywalk. Sure, they have ghosted in a skywalk in the sole artists exterior rendering, but no reference to it on the actual floor by floor plans.
drew881 wrote:MadBlueEdwards wrote:We should place bets on whether we're going to be an "Arena" team or a "Center" team. Maybe they go all trend-setter and call it a "Plaza".
The Kohl Bowl.
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EastSideBucksFan wrote:
Peter Feigen was also touting the skywalk at the Bucks MVP party last week.
paulpressey25 wrote:EastSideBucksFan wrote:
Peter Feigen was also touting the skywalk at the Bucks MVP party last week.
My bad. I had mis-heard the Alex Lasry interview from last week where he said they weren't going to connect the developments via skywalks but after listening to it again I heard he was talking about the other developments. He said there would be a skywalk from the main parking structure "for season ticket holders".
I think they don't want more skywalks than that one though because then people might bypass the stores/restaurants they want to put in.
The Bucks had included the skywalk in an October 2015 filing with the city that was submitted with the team’s initial arena-development plan. However, the skywalk that would traverse West Juneau Avenue appears only as a lightface image in the detailed and updated plans the Bucks submitted to the city March 16.
The Bucks owners have decided to proceed with seeking approval for the skywalk, spokesman Jake Suski said. The city of Milwaukee will require the Bucks to attain an approval for the skywalk that is separate from the arena and parking structure plans.
The city is on track to approve the arena and arena district detailed plans and rezoning by May 24.
The Bucks likely will submit an application for the skywalk after receiving the approvals for the main project, Suski said. The city development website says such approvals typically take two to four months.
The Bucks' plan is for the skywalk to connect the third floor of the new parking garage with the main concourse level of the arena, Suski said.
Why do the Bucks owners want a skywalk?
“It enhances the experience for event attendees and season ticket holders throughout the year and offers a convenience that many future attendees desire,” Suski said via email.
Some business leaders and urban planners dislike skywalks either aesthetically or because they diminish pedestrian traffic at street level. However, downtown Milwaukee is seeing an increasing number of the structures.
Most recently, a skywalk was built to link the new 833 East building to the U.S. Bank Center. Northwestern Mutual plans a skywalk over North Van Buren Street to link its new tower with existing offices.
Downtown Milwaukee Ald. Bob Bauman declined to comment on the proposed arena skywalk.
The $35 million parking structure will be built on Juneau between North Fifth and North Sixth streets. The Bucks have selected J.H. Findorff & Son Inc. as the construction manager.
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paulpressey25 wrote:EastSideBucksFan wrote:
Peter Feigen was also touting the skywalk at the Bucks MVP party last week.
My bad. I had mis-heard the Alex Lasry interview from last week where he said they weren't going to connect the developments via skywalks but after listening to it again I heard he was talking about the other developments. He said there would be a skywalk from the main parking structure "for season ticket holders".
I think they don't want more skywalks than that one though because then people might bypass the stores/restaurants they want to put in.
mcfromage wrote:Highly recommend the Twitter feed of M.L. Schumacher who's live tweeting a presentation the Bucks and Populous are giving right now to the Planning Commission.
https://twitter.com/artcity
Peter Feigin: One of the rationale for the fritting on the glass is to be bird-friendly (birds don't see buildings and fly into them).
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The new Milwaukee Bucks arena's proposed design received its first city approval Monday, helping prepare the $500 million project for a planned construction start this summer.
The Plan Commission voted 4-0 to recommend approval. The detailed plan development also needs Common Council approval.
The preliminary endorsement came despite concerns raised by some commission members about what they said was a need for additional landscaping to better blend the arena with the surrounding neighborhood.
In some ways, the arena is "a beautiful building," said Whitney Gould, a commission member.
"But it seems like there's still a ways to go to integrate it into the cityscape," she said.
The basketball club will be creating a more extensive landscaping plan, said Peter Feigin, Bucks president. He agreed that it's important to activate the space.
The commission's approval is conditioned upon receiving that completed landscaping plan.
Other commission members praised the design by Kansas City-based Populous and Eppstein Uhen Architects Inc., of Milwaukee.
"I think it's really an amazing plan," said Stephanie Bloomingdale, who contrasted it with the "closed in" feeling of the BMO Harris Bradley Center, current home to the Bucks.
"I was not a big fan of the swoop at first," said Larri Jacquart, referring to the arena's curved roof at its main entrance overlooking N. 4th St.
"I've warmed up to that considerably," she said.
The arena's large windows, praised by Jacquart, were designed to make the building "as transparent as possible," said Brad Clark, a Populous senior principal.
The idea, Clark said, is to allow people to connect to the building from the outside, while also allowing people within the building to connect with the city through panoramic views.
Clark also discussed the zinc exterior panels, which will be treated to provide a brown-rust color.
"It's going to hold its color over time," Clark said.
The arena will be just north of the Bradley Center.
In separate votes, the Plan Commission also recommended design approval for the new arena's parking structure, to be built north of W. Juneau Ave. and east of N. 6th St., and the Bucks training center, to be just west of the parking structure.
The proposed parking structure is to include apartments and street-level commercial space, with Feigin saying the Bucks hope to develop the housing component at the same time the parking structure is constructed. The Plan Commission will conduct an additional review on the proposed apartments once those additional details are available.
The arena will be owned by the Wisconsin Center District, a state-created agency that also owns the downtown Wisconsin Center convention facility, the UW-Milwaukee Panther Arena and the Milwaukee Theatre.
A lease between that agency and Deer District LLC, a Bucks affiliate, hasn't yet been completed. The Bucks plan to begin the arena construction in June.
The arena is to be completed in time for the 2018-'19 National Basketball Association season.