Michael Beasley is a gangster

[Smash3]

if he wasn't so stupid he could be a very good player

This should have been the end of this topic, he has all the talent in the world but he is dumb as rocks - and lazy. You can survive being dumb as an NBA player but you can't be lazy too.

[ubernathan]

I'd rather have Beasley than Jeff Green

[ken6199]

if he wasn't so stupid he could be a very good player

This should have been the end of this topic, he has all the talent in the world but he is dumb as rocks - and lazy. You can survive being dumb as an NBA player but you can't be lazy too.

Yes, and that interestingly opens up a whole new conversation here because he, seemingly so far, has been quite the opposite - playing hard, no off court troubles. Yes it's been less than a month, it's hard to say the Chinese league transformed a fringe NBA player, special situation within the Rockets team giving him undeserved green lights, he's seeing this probably his final shot at NBA. Still, it's been refreshing to see that attitude. After all, he wasn't that much of a terrible trouble maker that needs to be 'reborn' to be accepted.

[Edrees]

How is he any different from Nick young? dude could score 30 ppg if given the green light to shoot. I don't see any love for Swaggy P for doing the same thing.

because nick young hasn't even gotten close to shooting at or above 50%

Young's peak was averaging 0.564 TS%. Beasley is at 0.607% now but only based off 8 game sample size. Career wise:

Nick Young TS%: 0.529
Michael Beasley TS%: 0.508

The only thing Beasley is better at than Nick young is rebounding.

Look i'm not trying to say he isn't helping the rockets ,because he is. I'm just saying he's the same exact player he was last time he was in the NBA.

[Legend Of Chim]

How is he any different from Nick young? dude could score 30 ppg if given the green light to shoot. I don't see any love for Swaggy P for doing the same thing.

Michael Beasley is atleast a tier or two above from Nick Young when it comes to player ability.

they both may be dumb. but only one of them has talent

[SKR]

Today the last play, where he did the right play and pass to a better threepoint hitter (Ariza) for the last bucket - Beasley of a couple of years back would have never done that. So there has been improvement of sorts.

[Sorkoram]

One of the most offensively gifted players I've seen. He has a really good feel for the game on the offensive end, defensively he struggles to put it together, but I'm glad he's found a solid landing in Houston.

[OrlandoDream]

Beasley has always been able to score. Its his maturity that bothers GMs. He has always had the talent just lack the motivation and discipline. Great things happen when you lay off the green pasture.

[ken6199]

Stole this from somewhere else. Beasley is in some serious business here.



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[DAWill1128]

Beasley success is the result of a changing league. When he was drafted he was too small to defend power forwards, then he got moved to small forward where being slower diminished his value. Now the nba wants quicker power forwards who can shoot and Beasley is perfectly suited. Beasley is gonna be a monster four for years to come.

[TMU]

Love the way he's revamped his offense. His experience overseas has brought improvement upon himself. When he gets the ball in the paint, he is very quick to attack the basket whether it's with his back to the basket or palming the ball and facing up. Hasn't really seen him settle for a forced jumper and thus has been very efficient. Rockets offense is very stagnant when Harden is cold and the 3s aren't falling, so it's nice to see someone like him come off the bench and bring buckets in the paint. He's also very active on the glass and gets a good amount of boards when he's getting the minutes. Defense needs vast improvement, but that's not just Beasley. The team is failing on defense.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

There's another big factor that is helping Beasley right now, that people aren't really acknowledging.

When he entered the NBA, he was a tweener in a league that valued more defined 3's and 4's. But the league has shifted, and now most teams play guys at the 4 that would be 3's 5-10 years ago, even regularly. That's really helped Michael, because that's what he's always been. Makes it much easier for him to rebound and play defense with the whole league having gone small. Not to mention, his ability to hit the 3 ball only increases his value at that position.

In summary, Beasley as traditional power forward, meh. Beasley as traditional small forward, eh. Beasley as small ball power forward, very nice.

EDIT: OK, you called it before I did, but yup, this exactly

Beasley success is the result of a changing league. When he was drafted he was too small to defend power forwards, then he got moved to small forward where being slower diminished his value. Now the nba wants quicker power forwards who can shoot and Beasley is perfectly suited. Beasley is gonna be a monster four for years to come.

[Bourne85]

There's another big factor that is helping Beasley right now, that people aren't really acknowledging.

When he entered the NBA, he was a tweener in a league that valued more defined 3's and 4's. But the league has shifted, and now most teams play guys at the 4 that would be 3's 5-10 years ago, even regularly. That's really helped Michael, because that's what he's always been. Makes it much easier for him to rebound and play defense with the whole league having gone small. Not to mention, his ability to hit the 3 ball only increases his value at that position.

In summary, Beasley as traditional power forward, meh. Beasley as traditional small forward, eh. Beasley as small ball power forward, very nice.

EDIT: OK, you called it before I did, but yup, this exactly

Beasley success is the result of a changing league. When he was drafted he was too small to defend power forwards, then he got moved to small forward where being slower diminished his value. Now the nba wants quicker power forwards who can shoot and Beasley is perfectly suited. Beasley is gonna be a monster four for years to come.

I actually said this last year on the heat forum lol.

I said Beasleys career might be saved due to this surge of "small ball".

But that's not the only reason. I know Rocket fans hate the coach. But just last night Beasley made two dumb mistakes when he fell for Mitorics pump fake 3 twice. Coach pulled him to the side benched him for the final minute of the first and he was back in the game focused at the start of the second qt. Spo would of benched him so hard, put in a favorite vet like Haslem and would of not played him again all half destroying his confidence.

Rockets coach isn't very good, but atleast he allows a lil freedom, and let's a player like Beasley just play his game. Spo was sticking him in corner all year last year and his offensive game suffered immensely because of it.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

How is he any different from Nick young? dude could score 30 ppg if given the green light to shoot. I don't see any love for Swaggy P for doing the same thing.

He's scoring a lot of points efficiently, he's gotta be making your offence better if he does that. I'm not sure swaggyP really does that. I mean I guess both are ballhogs who break your offence which isn't good, but sometimes you need volume scorers, that can improve your offense.

I mean here's some lol statistics, but Beasley's PER right now is about double nick young's the last few seasons. That said I don't see Beas continuing to put up these kinds of numbers or anything.

Amazingly Beas' orating is under 110 so it's not like his offense is super efficient or anything right now.

[TeamTragic]

Do you realize that you just posted a thread praising Beasley? When you thought this team couldn't get more sad

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Beasley has always been able to score. Its his maturity that bothers GMs. He has always had the talent just lack the motivation and discipline. Great things happen when you lay off the green pasture.

Quite a few flaws here, but Beasley's scoring has always been pretty inefficient and selfish. Adding Beasley to all but the worse teams will probably make your offense worse not better...also I'm not sure smoking mary j blige automaticly makes you a bonehead or bad basketball player. Do you hear this stuff about people who engage in frequent social alcohol consumption?

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GOAT

[OrlandoDream]

Beasley has always been able to score. Its his maturity that bothers GMs. He has always had the talent just lack the motivation and discipline. Great things happen when you lay off the green pasture.

Quite a few flaws here, but Beasley's scoring has always been pretty inefficient and selfish. Adding Beasley to all but the worse teams will probably make your offense worse not better...also I'm not sure smoking mary j blige automaticly makes you a bonehead or bad basketball player. Do you hear this stuff about people who engage in frequent social alcohol consumption?

No, I get it from B-easy himself. He used to consume enough recreational substances for the entire team.

[ken6199]

How is he any different from Nick young? dude could score 30 ppg if given the green light to shoot. I don't see any love for Swaggy P for doing the same thing.

He's scoring a lot of points efficiently, he's gotta be making your offence better if he does that. I'm not sure swaggyP really does that. I mean I guess both are ballhogs who break your offence which isn't good, but sometimes you need volume scorers, that can improve your offense.

I mean here's some lol statistics, but Beasley's PER right now is about double nick young's the last few seasons. That said I don't see Beas continuing to put up these kinds of numbers or anything.

Amazingly Beas' orating is under 110 so it's not like his offense is super efficient or anything right now.

And let me throw in another set of stats (also stole from somewhere else), following Moray's tweet about Beasley's scoring total for his first 250 minutes.

Clyde - 190 pts in 281 min (0.676 pts/min)
Beasley - 168 pts in 257 min (0.653 pts/min)
Harden - 171 pts in 278 min (0.651 pts/min)
Sampson - 170 pts in 275min (0.618 pts/min)
Hakeem - 159 pts in 257 min (0.618 pts/min)
TMac - 139 pts in 273 min (0.509 pts/min)
Yao - 121 pts in 251 min (0.482 pts/min)
Francis - 121 pts in 254 min (0.476 pts/min)

This is very efficient for someone who shoots a lot of long 2s.

[SmoothCriminal]

Beasley success is the result of a changing league. When he was drafted he was too small to defend power forwards, then he got moved to small forward where being slower diminished his value. Now the nba wants quicker power forwards who can shoot and Beasley is perfectly suited. Beasley is gonna be a monster four for years to come.

exactly, how good do you think Micheal Beasley would be if he came out of Kansas State as a freshman this year?

I believe most GM's would take him over Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram