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Game Thread: Magic (32-43, 12-26 Away) @ Bucks (31-44, 22-15 Home) 4/1 8PM

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Re: Game Thread: Magic (32-43, 12-26 Away) @ Bucks (31-44, 22-15 Home) 4/1 8PM 

Post#561 » by OrlandO » Mon Apr 4, 2016 2:39 pm

fendilim wrote:
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What are those numbers from? They're all sorts of wrong.

Oladipo is on 16ppg, shooting 44%, 35% on 3pa

Fournier is on 14.9ppg, shooting 46%, 41% on 3pa

But Oladipo's post allstar break numbers have been much stronger.

Oladipo - 19.7ppg 47.5% fg on 15.2fga, 35% 3pa, and double Evan's numbers across the board on nearly all other categories.

Fournier - 17ppg 48.9%fg on 12.6fga, 40.1% 3pa

Otherwise, I agree completely with everything you said.

I said 2016 stats... as in stats from the new year, not the entire season.
No offense but using that as comparison is selective statistic.

I think using a whole season stat being as more accurate. Are players suddenly turning into a new leaf when the clock hits 12?

No, but we're not exactly dealing with a player who has reached his full potential yet... a lot of young players turn the corner in their third year. Plus there could have been an adjustment period under new coach skiles. Are we supposed to weigh 2015 the same as 2016 if we're possibly looking at a scenario where something finally clicked in Oladipo after performing poorly and getting benched? Btw, early January is when dipo was reinserted into the starting lineup, so it is not just some random date. He has been balling for 3 consecutive months now. This is the most consistent he's played in his career. You ca't just dismiss how a player is trending just because you want to worry about overall averages. You going to worry about what he did early in his third year if he continues balling for the first couple months in his fourth year? With our developing players, I care more about the present and future than I do the past.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (32-43, 12-26 Away) @ Bucks (31-44, 22-15 Home) 4/1 8PM 

Post#562 » by fendilim » Mon Apr 4, 2016 2:49 pm

OrlandO wrote:
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OrlandO wrote:I said 2016 stats... as in stats from the new year, not the entire season.
No offense but using that as comparison is selective statistic.

I think using a whole season stat being as more accurate. Are players suddenly turning into a new leaf when the clock hits 12?

No, but we're not exactly dealing with a player who has reached his full potential yet... a lot of young players turn the corner in their third year. Plus there could have been an adjustment period under new coach skiles. Are we supposed to weigh 2015 the same as 2016 if we're possibly looking at a scenario where something finally clicked in Oladipo after performing poorly and getting benched? Btw, early January is when dipo was reinserted into the starting lineup, so it is not just some random date. He has been balling for 3 consecutive months now. This is the most consistent he's played in his career. You ca't just dismiss how a player is trending just because you want to worry about overall averages. You going to worry about what he did early in his third year if he continues balling for the first couple months in his fourth year? With our developing players, I care more about the present and future than I do the past.
Just saying that you should look at the season as a whole. I don't see the reason why you have to be selective of the stats, because of one firework show.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (32-43, 12-26 Away) @ Bucks (31-44, 22-15 Home) 4/1 8PM 

Post#563 » by OrlandO » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:08 pm

fendilim wrote:
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fendilim wrote:No offense but using that as comparison is selective statistic.

I think using a whole season stat being as more accurate. Are players suddenly turning into a new leaf when the clock hits 12?

No, but we're not exactly dealing with a player who has reached his full potential yet... a lot of young players turn the corner in their third year. Plus there could have been an adjustment period under new coach skiles. Are we supposed to weigh 2015 the same as 2016 if we're possibly looking at a scenario where something finally clicked in Oladipo after performing poorly and getting benched? Btw, early January is when dipo was reinserted into the starting lineup, so it is not just some random date. He has been balling for 3 consecutive months now. This is the most consistent he's played in his career. You ca't just dismiss how a player is trending just because you want to worry about overall averages. You going to worry about what he did early in his third year if he continues balling for the first couple months in his fourth year? With our developing players, I care more about the present and future than I do the past.
Just saying that you should look at the season as a whole. I don't see the reason why you have to be selective of the stats, because of one firework show.

Because we are talking about picking one over the other this summer. How a young player is trending over the last 3-4 months of the season under a new coach is a pretty big deal in that regard. If we were talking about an older player in his prime or later then the trend would probably be less of a factor. I'm not saying completely ignore Dipo's struggles earlier in the year, but the consistency he's been playing with in the new year is very promising moving forward.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (32-43, 12-26 Away) @ Bucks (31-44, 22-15 Home) 4/1 8PM 

Post#564 » by Blue_and_Whte » Mon Apr 4, 2016 7:07 pm

If it comes down to either or, then we need to keep Oladipo.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (32-43, 12-26 Away) @ Bucks (31-44, 22-15 Home) 4/1 8PM 

Post#565 » by OrlandoNed » Mon Apr 4, 2016 7:14 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:If it comes down to either or, then we need to keep Oladipo.

For sure. His consistency of late on offense and defense is very exciting, although his offensive performance can take a dip from time to time, based on if he has to spend more energy on defense in a particular game.

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