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Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#1 » by dub81 » Wed Apr 6, 2016 12:57 am

Looking back in last year free agency the front office decided to let go of Jeremy Lin and Ed Davis. Essentially they replaced them with Lou and Roy.

I followed both Ed and Jeremy this year closely on league pass and they both had comeback season. Do you think the reason they bounced back was because Byron could not put them in positions to succeed or was it just a bad fit on a bad team?

Entering this off season what can we do to make sure this mistake does not happen again?

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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#2 » by Slava » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:11 am

Huertas and Bass > Lin & Davis.
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Post#3 » by stan francisco » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:46 am

What we can do? Fire BS today so we can judge our talent before the season is over. He makes players worse.
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Post#4 » by stan francisco » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:47 am

I wanted Ed Davis to stick around.
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Post#5 » by gts1 » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:56 am

King Latifah wrote:I wanted Ed Davis to stick around.
So did the Lakers but he signed so fast with Portland once Aldridge was clearly leaving Lakers never got a real chance to talk to him.. Free agency started on Jul 1st and Davis came to agreement with the Blazers early on the morning of the 2nd which means they were negotiating from the start...
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Post#6 » by stan francisco » Wed Apr 6, 2016 2:04 am

He must've been sick of BS and all the solo ball. That's exactly what I want us to do with Whiteside (or Noah), sign him right away.
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Post#7 » by N3LL » Wed Apr 6, 2016 2:13 am

Didn't we miss out in Ed due to the front office putting all their focus in LMA?
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Post#8 » by dub81 » Wed Apr 6, 2016 2:40 am

I think we could have resigned Ed and LM.
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Post#9 » by Desiderium » Wed Apr 6, 2016 4:21 am

gts1 wrote:
King Latifah wrote:I wanted Ed Davis to stick around.
So did the Lakers but he signed so fast with Portland once Aldridge was clearly leaving Lakers never got a real chance to talk to him.. Free agency started on Jul 1st and Davis came to agreement with the Blazers early on the morning of the 2nd which means they were negotiating from the start...


thats BS. lakers front office had their head in the clouds going all in on aldridge and melo that they neglected to try to keep the few players on their team that should have stayed such as Davis and Ellington.
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#10 » by Laker_Kid » Wed Apr 6, 2016 4:35 am

I'd trade Black Bass and Hibbert for Davis back. He'd be better PnR with Russell/Clarkson and could be the perfect guy to play both C and PF positions ala Pau.

I'll always be rooting for Lin even though he sucks at times (Asian pride yo), and I'd probably take him over Lou. I like Lou though, instant offense off the bench is valuable.
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#11 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Apr 6, 2016 5:36 am

Wait Byron was the reason we got rid of Ed - I thought it was MDA?

I wanted to keep Ed and J.Hill Imagin if we had kept both of them for out Center spot with T.Black as well and instead of slow arse hibbert
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#12 » by Laker_Kid » Wed Apr 6, 2016 5:47 am

skullz wrote:Wait Byron was the reason we got rid of Ed - I thought it was MDA?

I wanted to keep Ed and J.Hill Imagin if we had kept both of them for out Center spot with T.Black as well and instead of slow arse hibbert

yeah that totally would have been a more mobile front court. had hope for Hibbert, I guess the Pacers actually won that deal.
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#13 » by milesfides » Wed Apr 6, 2016 6:03 am

It was pretty obvious that Ed Davis wasn't feeling the love from the Lakers and neither was Jeremy Lin. Both expressed frustration w/ PT and role under Scott (not a surprise). Davis turned down his player option because he's not a moron. Why would he want to spend his best earning years in a bad situation? Why wouldn't he take a fair deal on the table for a good team instead of waiting around for a bad team under a bad coach?

Jeremy Lin and Ed Davis actually talked about going to the same team in the offseason. He explicitly stated this in a Q & A with a Taiwanese event, but I don't have the link. It's easily googleable, I've seen links/twitter mentions of this when it happened. Lin called Davis his best p/r big man along with Tyson Chandler. Really, the p/r with Lin and Davis seemed like a potent offensive weapon that even Scott couldn't screw up, but he did, because he was so intent on his safety school version of the princeton offense and catering to a wounded-beast Kobe.

It's too bad Jeremy Lin and Davis couldn't see this version of Kobe - and I'm sure this version of Kobe would have been much more appreciative of pros who play hard and the right way, instead of some of the ass clowns here now, who disgrace the uniform and the fans.

If Scott were fired, which I'm starting to bet on considering the freak show the Lakers have become, why would anybody rule out Jeremy Lin, unless there were some underlying sort of agenda? Forget the haters or the annoying fans. The guy plays both backcourt positions, he's been flexible with his role, he plays hard and well on both ends of the floor, and he actually gets better when you give him more responsibility. He's shown that he's willing to take a discount for opportunity, and that's rare for a proven player coming into his prime.

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Post#14 » by XtotheDeezy » Wed Apr 6, 2016 7:50 am

If I recall, the Lakers didn't even make an attempt to resign Ed. We missed out on Aldridge and ended up with this buttplug of a team.
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Post#15 » by stan francisco » Wed Apr 6, 2016 11:59 am

Get Whiteside or Noah right out of the gates in FA!
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#16 » by Kalidogg24 » Wed Apr 6, 2016 12:19 pm

milesfides wrote:
If Scott were fired, which I'm starting to bet on considering the freak show the Lakers have become, why would anybody rule out Jeremy Lin, unless there were some underlying sort of agenda? Forget the haters or the annoying fans. The guy plays both backcourt positions, he's been flexible with his role, he plays hard and well on both ends of the floor, and he actually gets better when you give him more responsibility. He's shown that he's willing to take a discount for opportunity, and that's rare for a proven player coming into his prime.


Yup I knew Jeremy was having a good season outside of the Byron Bermuda Triangle but once I seen him drop 30 on the Spurs sparking that huge comeback victory with the DPOY Kawhi Leonard guarding him in the 4th quarter I knew he was straight up ballin'! Michael Jordan has even stated that JLin was the biggest pickup for the Hornets this season. An the last time I checked they picked up Nic Batum as well :nod:

His fans on all the message boards can be straight up annoying as most of them are just FOB's from random Asian countries but I must say his haters are equally if not more annoying as well.

It pretty much shows to me that they rather come off as idiots who know nothing about basketball rather than state the facts. :lol:
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#17 » by stan francisco » Wed Apr 6, 2016 12:54 pm

How about those who think Lin is alright but don't get super excited about him in either direction because of his inconsistency, less than good defense etc?
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#18 » by stan francisco » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:03 pm

Slava wrote:Huertas and Bass > Lin & Davis.


Yes.

Huertas, Bass and Ed Davis would've been even better. :-)

I'm not against Lin, just not very excited about him either. Don't get angry at me now, Lin fanatics. It's my opinion, not going to change it because I watch a lot of ball, know what I'm looking for and Lin doesn't have what I think we need.

Off the bench on a championship team? Sure. Starting? There will be no rings. His paycheck doesn't fit the bench and his abilities don't fit a starting role on a contender.
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#19 » by karkinos » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:28 pm

i liked ed in college and was hoping lakers would sign him
oh well
we got hibbert tho amirite

lin can be a starter, but for him to really thrive on the lakers he would need more mature talent around him. lin is one of those guys imo who can really add value to an already deep team but he isn't one to carry a team to the next level or add a new dimension to their game.
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Re: Ed Davis, Jeremy Lin 

Post#20 » by Marionettetc » Wed Apr 6, 2016 1:30 pm

Jeremy Lin

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Ed Davis

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Not only are both of them not having "comeback" seasons, in a lot of cases they are having worse seasons than their career averages, and when they played for the Lakers last year.

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