cosmofizzo wrote:NavLDO wrote:cosmofizzo wrote:I think we will attempt to compete for a playoff spot next season. It makes a lot of sense. Big free agents available the following year, rookies starting to hit RFA. Starting next season, we're back on the up-cycle. Make no mistake about it.
For those of you hoping for more lottery picks, just remember - we still have Miami's picks coming our way. I expect us to hold on to all of Tucker, Knight and Chandler this offseason and come away from the draft with one rookie power forward who can contribute.
It really only makes sense because Sarver is our owner. If he could just 'eat' some profits for one more season, and allow his GM to build a contender the right way, I think we could potentially be a force by the '17/'18 season.
You want to see something disturbing?
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/phoenix-suns/cap/57% of our cap is tied to three players--Bledsoe, Knight, and Chandler--with the 33 YO as the healthiest, most productive of the 3:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2016&p1=bledser01&y2=2016&p2=knighbr03&y3=2016&p3=chandty01&p4=&p5=&p6=-eFG% = .576 for Chandler, vice .502 (Bledsoe)/.482 (Knight)
-WS = 3.3 (Chandler), 2.3 (Bledsoe), 1.5 (Knight)
-ORtg = 112 (Chandler), 106 (Bledsoe), 100 (Knight)
-DRtg = 107 (Chandler), 107 (Bledsoe), 111 (Knight)
That's a problem, IMO. Next year, that number drops to 43.8%, but Knight is still sucking up 14% of our cap. So that's 44% of our cap spent on 3 non-All-Stars.
I know we have to have a few vets on the squad, but do they have to be $13-14M, non-All-star types??? I'm fairly confident we could sign Teletovic for about 2/3 of what we signed Knight for (maybe $9ish or 3 years?) And based upon Leuer's virtually mediocre play the past couple of months, maybe get him in at $6 per (equivalent to about $4.5M last year). Or how about Tucker for $6M for another couple of years. I'd feel a lot better spending $15M on Teletovic and Tucker, than $14M on Knight.
Six million dollars for Jon Leuer? I heard Hakim Warrick is available...
You take the opportunities you get. You can't just go out and get a max free agent. They have to agree to sign. That's not a plan at all.
I think we're going about this the right way. Hindsight isn't always 20/20. People are complaining because of the way things are going right now, not the way things are likely to go in the future.
And frankly, I'm pretty sick of everyone blaming Sarver for everything. It's nuts. You wish we had taken the Philly route to rebuilding? I don't see dividends being paid there. Boston? Well, while we've drafted Len, Warren and Booker, they've drafted Olynyk, James Young and Rozier. I wouldn't swap assets with either.
Be cool, my babies, be cool
Whoa...slow down, there, slappy. Where have you been for the past, oh, IDK, 5 years, and Sarver's stunts, interviews, etc.
I never once said Philly, I said stop signing non-All-Stars to 15-20% of our cap. Hindsight?? Really?? How many non-All-NBA, 33 YO players receive $13M per for 4 years? That's not hindsight; everyone knew at the time it was an overpay. Getting quality FAs to sign here? How about develop some youth INTO All-Stars, like many teams do. That's all I'm saying. If anything, as I've stated recently, they should attempt an approach closer to Minny's. I'm saying, quit buying non-All-NBA types, that would be 2 in one year, for 2/5ths of our cap this year, and darn near 1/3 of our cap next year. Especially, when we have another $14M, non-All-NBA contract on the books.
And Jon Leuer, for what would be the equivalent of about $4.2M per last year, is a heck of a lot better than Chandler for 3X that much. Sorry bub, that's not hindsight. Jon Leuer, when actually given minutes, like December, was shooting 53%, 39.4% from 3, bringing in 7 Rebs and scoring nearly 12 per game in 26 minutes per game. That's sure as heck worth about $6M at nest year's Salary Cap number of $89M. We could sign him 15X for that amount. Last year the Cap was $63M, or 71% of next years Cap of, again $89M, so yeah, $6M for a bench PF, which we have how many on contract next season?? Oh, that's right, none!
Knight's contract of $14M was ALSO considered an overpay when it happened. Don't believe me?? Go back to posts both on this forum and the T&T forum. Get outta here with your "hindsight" crap--they were junk deals when they happened. At least Chandler made SOME sense, because we needed a Vet Big, but hey, let's trade away IT, a PG, who cost half as much, and gave more production, for Knight, another PG. Oh wait, he was a 'ball hog', thank goodness Knight's not that way...whew...
So when you ACTUALLY understand what I was posting, and ACTUALLY know the difference between a contract signed under $63M, one signed under $70M (this year), and one signed under an $89M Cap, come on back and discuss.
Where did I EVER say following the Philly model...when did I EVER say we could sign any Max FA...and Sarver??? Yeah, he's the owner, the one paying the bills, hiring and firing GMs and HCs...so yeah, I am gonna blame the owner for some of this; McD owns some of this, for sure, but Sarver is FAR from blameless. So again, when you understand what I was getting at, and understand the Cap situation, then feel free to comment, but until then, making baseless accusations as to what I said is pointless, because that's not what I said...like, not even close...
