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Hinkie is available, go get him Jeannie 

Post#1 » by dockingsched » Thu Apr 7, 2016 1:38 am

Not that I really think it's something the lakers would consider, but for sake of discussion if I were in Jeannie's shoes id be drawing up plans to get him asap.

Slava wrote:If Jeannie has a sense of timing, she should clean house immediately and give him the job. This crap season and the Nick Young affair is a perfect excuse to turn a page.


If I'm jeannie i get the family to ask Jim to step down gracefully, move Mitch to vp of bball operations and give Hinkie the gm job. His ability to sell high and make trades in general is paralleled by few. Give him a market where he can legitimately use free agency as a way to acquire talent instead of having to rely exclusively on the draft and he'd work wonders.
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Post#2 » by Slava » Thu Apr 7, 2016 1:44 am

Other than the Knicks if Phil leaves, there aren't even many openings right now and people bold enough to give him a job. Even if we delayed this until the summer, hiring him with a month or so to prepare for the draft would be excellent.

Its been nice having Mitch for this long but the embarrassments of the free agency meetings, the still nascent analytics department in a league where its been arms race to couple with the signings of Nick Young and Lou Williams suggests its time to move on.

We have some good assets we should probably sell high on and make some bold decisions to maximize our chances of climbing out of the purgatory.
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Post#3 » by ALL HAIL » Thu Apr 7, 2016 1:48 am

Hinkie, and others like him, do not understand that building basketball teams require spirit and culture.

Perennial losing teams lack both.
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Post#4 » by TyCobb » Thu Apr 7, 2016 1:53 am

Mitch Kupchak is so much better than this guy.
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Post#5 » by ALL HAIL » Thu Apr 7, 2016 1:56 am

TyCobb wrote:Mitch Kupchak is so much better than this guy.

Is this even saying a lot?
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Re: Hinkie is available, go get him Jeannie 

Post#6 » by Kilroy » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:15 am

In a 13-page letter to members of the Sixers' ownership group, obtained by ESPN.com, Hinkie wrote: "There has been much criticism of our approach. There will be more. A competitive league like the NBA necessitates a zig while our competitors comfortably zag. We often chose not to defend ourselves against much of the criticism, largely in an effort to stay true to the ideal of having the longest view in the room. ...

"Given all the changes to our organization, I no longer have the confidence that I can make good decisions on behalf of investors in the Sixers -- you. So I should step down. And I have."


Just seems like a monumental, self-serving douche to me...

There has to be a middle ground between whatever the 76ers are right now to where his 'longest view in the room' has them...

The GM equivalent of 'taking his jacks and going home?'

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http://deadspin.com/the-76ers-are-run-by-a-ridiculous-ted-humping-moron-1686613279
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Post#7 » by ArC_man » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:22 am

If you stock up draft picks until time goes to infinity, you should have infinite talent and then be able to win infinitely many championships.
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Post#8 » by gts1 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:33 am

TyCobb wrote:Mitch Kupchak is so much better than this guy.
Yep. don't see what others do.. all I see in Hinkie is a numbers guy who doesn't know what the numbers equate to
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Post#9 » by TyCobb » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:38 am

Hinkie is smart, but too extreme. He was literally bad for the game.
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Post#10 » by Crooked-I » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:59 am

I read one of Woj's tweets that he doesn't communicate well with management. I don't see that flying in LA. Plus he has that stigma of tanking which won't be good for getting free agents. Same reason Byron has to go.
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Post#11 » by dockingsched » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:10 am

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TyCobb wrote:Mitch Kupchak is so much better than this guy.
Yep. don't see what others do.. all I see in Hinkie is a numbers guy who doesn't know what the numbers equate to


You have to acknowledge his success in selling high on assets. The way he fleeced Sacramento and earlier the MCW trade that netted them the Lakers pick was outstanding. These are the type of trades the lakers have needed to do.

The way he used cap space to draw assets from other teams is something a large portion of the fan base has been hoping for. Instead of the utter waste that Hibbert was another pick would look a lot better.

People see Hinkie and just see tank but that's a plan devised in 2013 molded to the sixers situation that frankly in the position they were in was probably what they should've been doing.

He showed flexibility this season in working with newly hired Jerry Colangelo and made moves to give up some of those smaller assets diverting from the extreme nature of the plan.

The guy has killed in trades and if you read some articles on the different ventures the team has undergone in the field of sports science under his watch to me it's what this team needs.
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Post#12 » by Marionettetc » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:25 am

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Post#13 » by Slava » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:37 am

Here's his entire resignation letter, I'm about to dive in: http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0406/nba_hinkie_redact.pdf
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Post#14 » by Sofa King » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:34 am

We dont need Hinkie. We're already just as bad as the 6ers.
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Post#15 » by Danny Darko » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:56 am

I thought this was a satire piece. Even if you think kupcake isn't the guy there are other options... hell West 2.0 is on our staff right now.
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Post#16 » by DTouch » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:23 am

So we can then look forward to 3-4 more yrs of this horribleness while chearing for our team to cont. Losing and hoping other team lose on some nights but not against other teams who we hold their draft picks? Sounds like a great a future
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Post#17 » by DTouch » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:30 am

ArC_man wrote:If you stock up draft picks until time goes to infinity, you should have infinite talent and then be able to win infinitely many championships.

Working out great for sixersso far...3yrs of horridness not a franchise changing player in sight
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Post#18 » by indilakeshow » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:59 am

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gts1 wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Mitch Kupchak is so much better than this guy.
Yep. don't see what others do.. all I see in Hinkie is a numbers guy who doesn't know what the numbers equate to


You have to acknowledge his success in selling high on assets. The way he fleeced Sacramento and earlier the MCW trade that netted them the Lakers pick was outstanding. These are the type of trades the lakers have needed to do.

The way he used cap space to draw assets from other teams is something a large portion of the fan base has been hoping for. Instead of the utter waste that Hibbert was another pick would look a lot better.

People see Hinkie and just see tank but that's a plan devised in 2013 molded to the sixers situation that frankly in the position they were in was probably what they should've been doing.

He showed flexibility this season in working with newly hired Jerry Colangelo and made moves to give up some of those smaller assets diverting from the extreme nature of the plan.

The guy has killed in trades and if you read some articles on the different ventures the team has undergone in the field of sports science under his watch to me it's what this team needs.


Do we? His success is (was?) all theoretical and yet to be realized. Even the Laker pick may be delayed to next year when the Lakers could be considerably better (I know, I know, but its a possibility!)
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Post#19 » by Spens1 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:22 am

That #process

If we were to go for any GM in the league if we absolutely had to replace Mitch (outside of the Spurs because that would be the dream) it would be Danny Ferry or Ujiri (as long as he ain't the one drafting), maybe even the current Bucks GM
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Post#20 » by crazyeights » Thu Apr 7, 2016 8:56 am

Weird move by Hinkie.

Yeah his power was being lessened, but he was about to bring in a potential haul of Embiid, Saric, Ingram (1), Hield (4).

Guessing he was being forced out and this is a preemptive move to get out looking like he set the table for the future without having to live with the consequences before getting picked up by some other desperate franchise.

For someone who talks about the process and for a team who tried so openly to be bad, this is really weak, IMO.

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