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2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft

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Post#21 » by StunnaStan » Wed Apr 6, 2016 7:35 pm

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Yeah man. Stan isn't taking a 4 that doesn't have a jump shot

We need to put a real power foward next to Drummond. Of course if he can hit the midrange/3pt ball it'll be a help but we need a proficient post threat.

You'll see next year how dominanting okafor and embiid will be together. While both can shoot, both okafor and embiid would prefer to just kill you in the post.

Dre isn't anywhere near as skilled as those 2 but hes a manchild with the boards. adding a real pf next to Drummonds intangibles would put us up there in terms of top front courts


What you say makes sense, but we had that in Monroe. Remember? He was Drummond's scapegoat last year. Drummond's game was being stifled because Monroe was clogging up the middle and ruining spacing, bla, bla, bla. Whatever. So now we've got Stan's 4 out, 1 in. That's what he wants, even though the 1 in has a novice, black hole post game.

Greg monroe is not a proficient post threat lol. Monroe does 2 things on offense. Either a. Turn to his left or b. Wait for dump offs (which lead to left handed layups no matter what side of the basket hes on). I like to call players like monroe 1 trick ponys. If he was a good post player, Milwaukee wouldn't be tryna get his bumass outta town but obviously they see hes a bum for the money he makes which is why he won't be a buck next season.

As far as maker concerned, its like this. If he went to college instead of declare for the draft, he would be a top 3-4 pick in the 2017 draft and assuming we improve in the offseason, we wont be anywhere close to get him. But we have the possible luxury to taken this 7ft 1inch dude around 18-20 in the 1st rd this year. Like hello don't make this harder than it should be. How many players will we see like him. Runs like a godamn gazelle, blocks all shots near him (unlike dumb drummond defensively speaking) and hes tall af.

Let alone, throw this 7ft 1 rookie, who may still be getting taller, throw him in the weight room with drummond and baynes, we'd be pleased with the results.

Draft darko #2 but question weather we should take THIS **** at at like 17?!?!?!?!? Lets walk away like bandits in this draft
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#22 » by StunnaStan » Wed Apr 6, 2016 7:46 pm

Also worth noting that his jr yr of hs, he was on same hs team as jamal murray whos currently at Kentucky and a projected top 7 pick. If he would have gone to college, he would've been at Kansas or kentucky.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#23 » by MotownMadness » Thu Apr 7, 2016 12:16 am

StunnaStan wrote:Also worth noting that his jr yr of hs, he was on same hs team as jamal murray whos currently at Kentucky and a projected top 7 pick. If he would have gone to college, he would've been at Kansas or kentucky.

I think everyone thinks your talking about Stone and not Maker. Maker has a decent jumper.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#25 » by ven412 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:32 am

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StunnaStan wrote:Im cool with stone, sabonis, and Davis. I also believe we should consider rolling the dice on thon maker. If we got thon, i think all piston fans get what they want. He's 7ft 1, he can shoot 3s and midrange, can run the floor great, has very good ball handle/moves for a giant, blocks shots (especially help side), plays passing lanes, fast enough to guard stretch 4s such as a draymond and long enough to contest a tall pf such as dirk.

Ive seen him play live as a sophomore and I can tell you now that the kid DOES indeed lift weights. Hes gained a good amount of weight from when i seen him to his announcement mix.

Don't buy into the whole, "he aint play college talk". This guy maker is basically porzingus with slight differences. Maker is faster, dribbles wayyyyy better, shorter by 2 inches, and a more versatile defender. Hes truthfully one of the top 6 (simmons, ingram, hield, dunn, brown, maker) and we should draft him and laugh at the teams who pass on him


I'm sold! I didn't know who he was until there was a thread about him on the general board then I youtubed him and he looks pretty amazing. If he could be a Porzingis or Greek Freak for us it would be awesome. His build looks like a young Kevin Garnett though, hopefully he can put on some weight.


It's probably the ptsd talking, but the flows language around this guy makes me think Darko. Probably not fair to th kid, but...yeah....
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#26 » by treefi » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:52 am

Marquese Chriss PF
Timothe Luwawu SG/SF
Thon Maker PF/C
Denzel Valentine SG
Tyler Ulis PG (growing on me)
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#27 » by Montanabadboy » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:24 pm

treefi wrote:Marquese Chriss PF
Timothe Luwawu SG/SF
Thon Maker PF/C
Denzel Valentine SG
Tyler Ulis PG (growing on me)


I was just going to ask what people think of Tyler Ulis. Me, I'd be fine if we drafted him, assuming we keep our pick.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#28 » by Montanabadboy » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:25 pm

treefi wrote:Marquese Chriss PF
Timothe Luwawu SG/SF
Thon Maker PF/C
Denzel Valentine SG
Tyler Ulis PG (growing on me)


I was just going to ask what people think of Tyler Ulis. Me, I'd be fine if we drafted him, assuming we keep our pick.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#29 » by DarkSyde » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:29 pm

Thom Maker. Looks like he has a younger brother a few inches shorter M. Maker.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#30 » by bballnmike » Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:43 pm

DarkSyde wrote:Thom Maker. Looks like he has a younger brother a few inches shorter M. Maker.

Don't forget the third brother, Maker_84
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#31 » by Lionlifer » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:22 pm

ven412 wrote:
SAKURABA216 wrote:
StunnaStan wrote:Im cool with stone, sabonis, and Davis. I also believe we should consider rolling the dice on thon maker. If we got thon, i think all piston fans get what they want. He's 7ft 1, he can shoot 3s and midrange, can run the floor great, has very good ball handle/moves for a giant, blocks shots (especially help side), plays passing lanes, fast enough to guard stretch 4s such as a draymond and long enough to contest a tall pf such as dirk.

Ive seen him play live as a sophomore and I can tell you now that the kid DOES indeed lift weights. Hes gained a good amount of weight from when i seen him to his announcement mix.

Don't buy into the whole, "he aint play college talk". This guy maker is basically porzingus with slight differences. Maker is faster, dribbles wayyyyy better, shorter by 2 inches, and a more versatile defender. Hes truthfully one of the top 6 (simmons, ingram, hield, dunn, brown, maker) and we should draft him and laugh at the teams who pass on him


I'm sold! I didn't know who he was until there was a thread about him on the general board then I youtubed him and he looks pretty amazing. If he could be a Porzingis or Greek Freak for us it would be awesome. His build looks like a young Kevin Garnett though, hopefully he can put on some weight.


It's probably the ptsd talking, but the flows language around this guy makes me think Darko. Probably not fair to th kid, but...yeah....


Maker scares me, I'd rather take a shot on Zimmerman before him.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#32 » by Redeemed » Fri Apr 8, 2016 2:07 pm

DarkSyde wrote:The Detroit Pistons select Maryland freshman center Diamond Stone in ESPN's latest mock NBA draft.

The Pistons, currently slated to select No. 18 overall, select Stone because "[he] is a low-post beast who can score in a variety of ways. As he continued to work on his conditioning, he would have a chance of being a very nice complement to Andre Drummond on the Pistons' front line.

That comes courtesy of Chad Ford, ESPN's NBA Draft guru.

So what kind of player is Stone?

Upside Motor has a quality analysis of strengths and weaknesses published in January, which means it's reflective of his actual play as a Terapin. A nickel summary of their analysis includes that while young and raw, he's a beast down low who favor's "bully ball" to get positioning under the rim.

They also highlight his emerging jump shot and terrific free-throw rate for a big man as signs he could eventually be a pick-and-pop threat. He's mostly a below-the-rim player, so he won't wow you with blocked shots, but he is allegedly agile enough to guard some power forwards as he learns the nuances of the game.

The most interesting takeaway, and a red flag, is that he is a particularly poor rebounder for a big man, and his deficiency is masked somewhat by his penchant for rebounding his own misses on the offensive end.

The bottom line from Upside Motor has me thinking a lot about former Piston Greg Monroe:

Stone is an 18-year-old center prospect with great hands, good length and above-average agility for the position. While he tends to rely on his strength to play


Diamond Stone reminds me more of Demarcus Cousins than Greg Monroe. He has serious potential as an offensive force with his footwork, bad attitude, and bully-ball approach.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft: Pistons select Diamond Stone in latest ESPN mock draft 

Post#33 » by pistontr » Fri Apr 8, 2016 7:45 pm

We don't need another center.
It will be Timothe Luwawu or Furkan Korkmaz.
Sorry for my poor english

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