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Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein

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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#361 » by wickedwrister » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:15 am

This is literally the worst outcome possible from 3 years ago. Tank and have to deal with a horrible team for multiple years and then get impatient at the last second and stupidly cash in your chips to rush back to the middle of the pack Ed Snider style.

Imagine running a billion dollar organization and then hiring a 78 year old executive who insists on living across the country, drives your chief executive out and then insists the best person to replace him is his son......How is that smart? Of all the people in the world qualified to replace Hinkie they think Jerry's son is the best?

Seriously f#$%# this ownership group. Last 3 years as a Sixer fan was the first time I had hope since 2001 and just when it looked like there was going to be a benefit from it they get cold feet.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#362 » by Negrodamus » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:15 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0406/nba_hinkie_redact.pdf

Letter.

Just extraordinary. A joy to read. I'll truly miss his tutelage of the Sixers.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#363 » by 76ciology » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:16 am

NYSixersFan wrote:Hinkie is an Analytics geek...he is not an NBA GM....he may have convinced many on this forum that he is and that's your problem for falling for it.


Yes. But Hinkie doesn't just look at analytics alone. His decision making is a cross of various principles.

For example, you read about Philip Tetlocks' Superforecaster (which seems to be what Hinkie has read based on his resignation letter), he talks about the best superforecasters considering all sources before making a prediction (Fox beats hedgehogs).

Like a previous poster said, what Hinkie did wrong was making this team unwatchable for 3 years. Those losing records caught everyone's attention that prevents him to do what he wants.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#364 » by TeamTragic » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:18 am

You guys didn't see this coming after Colangelo was hired to "help the franchise"? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#365 » by 76ciology » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:19 am

Negrodamus wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:http://espn.go.com/pdf/2016/0406/nba_hinkie_redact.pdf

Letter.

Just extraordinary. A joy to read. I'll truly miss his tutelage of the Sixers.


Great read. Great mind
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#366 » by mksp » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:23 am

What a disaster.

And hiring f'ing Colangelo's son the same day is a knife in all our backs.

Harris wants to sell the team. It was a great investment by him. F the fans.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#367 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:23 am

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t_smith979 wrote:
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Yea, if he sends him to Iraq instead of Qatar, fire him immediately

You will love it when you prove everyone wrong and we are wasting all our assets to get back onto the treadmill wont you.


I will love it when we are competitive on a nightly basis; with the chance of bringing in top free agents and winning championships.


You think Brian will accomplish this? He couldn't keep Bosh. Recruited noone of note when he was in Tor.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#368 » by Stanford » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:26 am

GoranTragic wrote:You guys didn't see this coming after Colangelo was hired to "help the franchise"? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Of course we did. We've been bummed out since the hire, but you can't stress about it every day.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#369 » by 76ciology » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:27 am

GoranTragic wrote:You guys didn't see this coming after Colangelo was hired to "help the franchise"? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Honestly, I was in denial. Oh nevermind..
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#370 » by AAKing23 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:28 am

Some of you talking about switching teams need to leave already, I understand being upset but you guys need to relax a bit
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Post#371 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:30 am

mksp wrote:What a disaster.

And hiring f'ing Colangelo's son the same day is a knife in all our backs.

Harris wants to sell the team. It was a great investment by him. F the fans.


Another thing people forget is that Brian was going to not only sign Fields but trade for Nash. He also would have conceivably then traded Lowry.

He was a disaster. The only thing that got in the way of him totally screwing things up was his own ineptness. I mean alot of GM's bemoan the trades they weren't able to make Brian breathes a sigh of relief.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#372 » by DaddyCool19 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:30 am

I think you guys will end up lucky on draft day. First the NBA forces you an old man as a "consultant" who now got rid of the tank master, who will try to build a mediocre trademill team as tanking is bad mkay.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#373 » by mksp » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:34 am

AAKing23 wrote:Some of you talking about switching teams need to leave already, I understand being upset but you guys need to relax a bit


It's about more than basketball.

It's about right versus wrong.

It's about the enjoyment we get rooting for a team that is being run thoughtfully and intelligently and with purpose versus a team that is doing things like everyone else.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#374 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:37 am

One thing we all have in common now is our dislike for Josh Harris
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#375 » by Sixerscan » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:40 am

DaddyCool19 wrote:I think you guys will end up lucky on draft day. First the NBA forces you an old man as a "consultant" who now got rid of the tank master, who will try to build a mediocre trademill team as tanking is bad mkay.

Pretty sure i'd rather lose the lottery than the lottery actually be fixed.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#376 » by ET Da Gawd » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:40 am

mksp wrote:
AAKing23 wrote:Some of you talking about switching teams need to leave already, I understand being upset but you guys need to relax a bit


It's about more than basketball.

It's about right versus wrong.

It's about the enjoyment we get rooting for a team that is being run thoughtfully and intelligently and with purpose versus a team that is doing things like everyone else.

Precisely, this is a shortsighted franchise that is not dedicated to building a true winner. People think it's easy to build from the ground up, it's cool though, they'll sleep in the bed they made. I however know when enough is enough. If you told me 3 years we were tanking and acquiring money and assets to have the colangelo boys make decisions I woulda been left. Can't follow ineptness, that would be true stupidity.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#377 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:41 am

I hope the Colangelo family brings success to your organization. Bryan is a good GM, he made mistakes in Toronto no doubt, but he did a lot of good as seen in our team presently. I think he's learned a lot from sitting out for a few years and now back with his dad, I think he's going to do good things for Philly.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#378 » by 76ciology » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:44 am

0 - 100 wrote:I hope the Colangelo family brings success to your organization. Bryan is a good GM, he made mistakes in Toronto no doubt, but he did a lot of good as seen in our team presently. I think he's learned a lot from sitting out for a few years and now back with his dad, I think he's going to do good things for Philly.


His past mistakes scares the hell out of me.

But I'm hoping and expects he learns from them. I believe in the law of average/mean reversion. I'm also quick to cut my losses, so I'd probably stop being a Sixers fan as soon as Colangelo clan starts to show signs that will lead this team into perpetual mediocrity and decline.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#379 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:49 am

76ciology wrote:
0 - 100 wrote:I hope the Colangelo family brings success to your organization. Bryan is a good GM, he made mistakes in Toronto no doubt, but he did a lot of good as seen in our team presently. I think he's learned a lot from sitting out for a few years and now back with his dad, I think he's going to do good things for Philly.


His past mistakes scares the hell out of me.

But I'm hoping and expects he learns from them. I believe in the law of average/mean reversion. I'm also quick to cut my losses, so I'd probably stop being a Sixers fan as soon as Colangelo clan starts to show signs that will lead this team into perpetual mediocrity and decline.


This is definitely a dream job for any new GM coming in with all the flexibility and draft picks coming up. Draft night should be interesting for you guys (I hope Lakers lose their pick for the crap they surrounded Kobe with).
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

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