Marquese Chriss

[doordoor123]

Kinda plays like a wing who had a late growth spurt, he was rerutied intially as a tight ened so still developing a feel for the game. Could work on the fundamentals of boxing out and establishing the inside position, he averaged nearly the same amount of offensive boards as defensive ones per game

Yeah, though he doesn't have a soft touch, I can see him becoming a good post player in time and drawing a lot of fouls. He already shoots through contact, he's explosive and athletic. I really don't think he's as raw as everyone makes him out to be. Just needs to figure a few things out and I think he's good by the end of his first season. I also don't think you draft him to be at the end of your bench (a lot of people have the Raptors taking him). He's a guy that can take minutes right away and can out-athlete bench players. His calling card is also defense and most teams want defenders playing. I like the Magic taking him if they plan on making Aaron Gordon a SF (what he's mostly playing right now).

[cedric76]

Kinda plays like a wing who had a late growth spurt, he was rerutied intially as a tight ened so still developing a feel for the game. Could work on the fundamentals of boxing out and establishing the inside position, he averaged nearly the same amount of offensive boards as defensive ones per game

Yeah, though he doesn't have a soft touch, I can see him becoming a good post player in time and drawing a lot of fouls. He already shoots through contact, he's explosive and athletic. I really don't think he's as raw as everyone makes him out to be. Just needs to figure a few things out and I think he's good by the end of his first season. I also don't think you draft him to be at the end of your bench (a lot of people have the Raptors taking him). He's a guy that can take minutes right away and can out-athlete bench players. His calling card is also defense and most teams want defenders playing. I like the Magic taking him if they plan on making Aaron Gordon a SF (what he's mostly playing right now).

Yeah , him to the magic makes too much sense

[doordoor123]

Kinda plays like a wing who had a late growth spurt, he was rerutied intially as a tight ened so still developing a feel for the game. Could work on the fundamentals of boxing out and establishing the inside position, he averaged nearly the same amount of offensive boards as defensive ones per game

Yeah, though he doesn't have a soft touch, I can see him becoming a good post player in time and drawing a lot of fouls. He already shoots through contact, he's explosive and athletic. I really don't think he's as raw as everyone makes him out to be. Just needs to figure a few things out and I think he's good by the end of his first season. I also don't think you draft him to be at the end of your bench (a lot of people have the Raptors taking him). He's a guy that can take minutes right away and can out-athlete bench players. His calling card is also defense and most teams want defenders playing. I like the Magic taking him if they plan on making Aaron Gordon a SF (what he's mostly playing right now).

Yeah , him to the magic makes too much sense

They also LOVE athletes. Remember they wanted to trade for Bledsoe, drafted Oladipo, Gordon, Hezonja and Payton (whose calling card was his movement). Would not be surprised if they took another athlete to counter-balance Vucevic. At the same time, I think if Ivan Rabb is still there they take him instead.

[Notanoob]

Is no one else concerned about his horrific rebounding numbers?

[cedric76]

Yeah, though he doesn't have a soft touch, I can see him becoming a good post player in time and drawing a lot of fouls. He already shoots through contact, he's explosive and athletic. I really don't think he's as raw as everyone makes him out to be. Just needs to figure a few things out and I think he's good by the end of his first season. I also don't think you draft him to be at the end of your bench (a lot of people have the Raptors taking him). He's a guy that can take minutes right away and can out-athlete bench players. His calling card is also defense and most teams want defenders playing. I like the Magic taking him if they plan on making Aaron Gordon a SF (what he's mostly playing right now).

Yeah , him to the magic makes too much sense

They also LOVE athletes. Remember they wanted to trade for Bledsoe, drafted Oladipo, Gordon, Hezonja and Payton (whose calling card was his movement). Would not be surprised if they took another athlete to counter-balance Vucevic. At the same time, I think if Ivan Rabb is still there they take him instead.

Yea, there is many players that Orlando would love at 11:
Chriss,rabb,skal,deyonte and even maker

[CunningLinguist]

Is no one else concerned about his horrific rebounding numbers?

He's a strong offensive rebounder. Defensively, he needs to gain strength which will help him box out. When looking at his numbers you also have to consider he only played 25 minutes a game, mostly due to foul trouble.

[Notanoob]

He's a strong offensive rebounder. Defensively, he needs to gain strength which will help him box out. When looking at his numbers you also have to consider he only played 25 minutes a game, mostly due to foul trouble.

I always look at things per40, don't worry. His DRB numbers are still quite terrible.

I think that people are getting a little too excited for a guy who is clearly a project. I certainly like his upside.

[sweetcity]

I have him going 9th to Toronto right now

[Kevin Willis]

His work ethic needs to improve - you can see it in his play. His discipline needs to improve - you can see it in his foul rate. His fundamentals need to improve - you can see him in his boxing out and where he is positioned on the floor. His maturity needs to improve - you can see it in his interviews.

But no player is perfect, if this can be corrected he can be a rotation player.

[doordoor123]

His work ethic needs to improve - you can see it in his play. His discipline needs to improve - you can see it in his foul rate. His fundamentals need to improve - you can see him in his boxing out and where he is positioned on the floor. His maturity needs to improve - you can see it in his interviews.

But no player is perfect, if this can be corrected he can be a rotation player.

Disagree completely. Do you know how difficult it is to defend the way he does at his size? Takes discipline to be a defender like that. Discipline a lot of NBA players don't have or there would be much better defenders. His foul rate is lack of understanding and lack of coaching. Their coach preached defense and that's it, otherwise Murray would have improved more than he has. College coaches aren't trying to train their kids for the NBA, especially at a school like Washington. They're just trying to win. And this "maturity" bull is bull. He has a young face and has a younger voice, but other than that I don't know what you're seeing. I think some people see "raw" and they decide they need to pick apart things that aren't there because in their head, they see "raw."
Yes, he needs to improve his all-around game, but he has enough there. If he's surrounded by the right people, he will be fine and he will be a great player. I will bet that in his career he won't be just "a rotation player" -- that's how much I believe in him.

[Kevin Willis]

I like Marquese obviously but his maturity / worth ethic issues are not from me, they're from people who've seen him workout. It was new to me as well until I found out.

Like I said he has discipline issues, I don't care if others have these issues - I am saying he has issues that will prevent him from being a rotation player next year. His foul rate was one of the worse in the NCAA. Washington isn't the only team with bad coaching, that's on him to correct and learn.

[cedric76]

He 'll be a very good nba player

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[doordoor123]

I like Marquese obviously but his maturity / worth ethic issues are not from me, they're from people who've seen him workout. It was new to me as well until I found out.

Like I said he has discipline issues, I don't care if others have these issues - I am saying he has issues that will prevent him from being a rotation player next year. His foul rate was one of the worse in the NCAA. Washington isn't the only team with bad coaching, that's on him to correct and learn.

Well if he has any issues, teams will see when workouts come. And I think it is absolutely about coaching. Maybe he's trying to pass his classes and didn't have time to practice because he otherwise wouldnt be able to play. Coaches are there to set an example and show these kids what it looks like to have a high work ethic. They're also there to push them to succeed.

[whitehops]

after doing some study on marquese this is my little summary on him:

The first thing that stands out is his athleticism. Has great mobility both moving laterally and in a straight line. His jumping is extremely impressive, not only jumps high but gets off the ground quickly as well. He is coordinated to boot. Has a good, versatile skill set offensively, even though it needs to be refined a great deal. His shot looks natural, smooth though his release is a little low. Can be very active which, combined with his athleticism, can have a big impact. The issue is that that actvity is not always there. He's a classic young player in the sense that he seems to have relied purely on athletic ability thus far and makes a ton of fundamental mistakes. Ball watches on defense, has tunnel vision on offense and lacks fundamentals in a lot of areas. Marquese is a pure "upside" pick and will only be as good as he works (and is coached) to be. Likely won't contribute in the NBA for a year or two, at least.

i think ideally he projects as a 3/4 but he would have to improve his skill set a great deal to effectively play the 3. it would take him a while before he could play 5 for stretches too, imo.

[GimmeDat]

If I remember correctly, Chriss took up basketball late (correct me if I'm thinking of someone else). That factor, combined with his age, suggests he could be a hell of a player, if he displays the required work ethic and open-ness to learn.

From the sounds if it, those qualities in him might be lacking, but there's a ton of room for growth if he develops. Definitely a PF at the next level, imo.

[nabbs]

Does the narrative of him having the tools and athleticism to be a special offensive and defensive presence on the floor remind you have Hassan Whiteside?? The lack of maturity, which is evident from him, would also support the comparison.

[3rdside]

Antonio McDyess is a pretty good comparison


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[3rdside]

He could be that good easily


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[doordoor123]

Does the narrative of him having the tools and athleticism to be a special offensive and defensive presence on the floor remind you have Hassan Whiteside?? The lack of maturity, which is evident from him, would also support the comparison.

Chriss doesn't lack maturity. Hassan does. And no, they're nothing alike.

[saintEscaton]

His stock is on the rise. But taking him in the Top 5 is a massive reach IMO. He is a tweener in the mold of TJones/Queef/Marvin Williams and plays like a guard who had a late growth spurt. His go go gadget hops make him a lob threat and he can finish with authority in traffic as a roll man with soft hands and a promising midrange touch and right baby hook for a kid new to the game. Will over commit and rack up flashy weakside blocks leaving his teammates vulnerable biting on everything and has a hard time staying on the floor. Fouled out in 15 of his 34 games. Surprisingly he tested terribly in lane agility, but he can stay in front of his man he just is too upright with little leverage in his defensive stance so he is blown by easily. Most concering is that he posted the second worst defensive rebound rate among first round prospects in the last 30 years, he doesn't box out or try to establish the inside position. He has a hard time anticipating the trajectory of the ball and just tries to corral it at its highest point(he was originally recruited as a tight end), he will be called for reaching behind the back in the NBA.