NBA courts with softest rims or tightest rims?

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NBA courts with softest rims or tightest rims? 

Post#1 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:25 pm

Last night during the Hornets Knicks game the Hornets long-time beat writer made this comment:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/717860108802330624[/tweet]

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MSG has a reputation for some of the NBA's softest rims. Marvin Williams enjoying same.


The Hornets color man Dell Curry has also previously mentioned this season that Atlanta has notoriously tight rims.

As much as we know the NBA wants each set of baskets to be the identical across all their arenas, it only makes sense that each set of rims in each arena is slightly unique in some way or another.

What arenas are known for having soft rims or hard/tight rims? Which arenas are known for being easy or tough to shoot in due to the layout of the arena (depth perception) or lighting?
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Post#2 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:26 pm

Somehow I expected a picture with Agent 00 in a flashy car.
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Post#3 » by Marcus » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:31 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Somehow I expected a picture with Agent 00 in a flashy car.


was thinking the EXACT same.
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Post#4 » by Marcus » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:31 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Somehow I expected a picture with Agent 00 in a flashy car.


was thinking the EXACT same.
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Post#5 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:32 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Somehow I expected a picture with Agent 00 in a flashy car.


:lol:

How did I miss that connection when coming up with that thread title. Hilarious oversight on my part.
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Post#6 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:34 pm

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Post#7 » by Johnny Firpo » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:35 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Somehow I expected a picture with Agent 00 in a flashy car.


This. To the OP, I have no idea of course (not much information on this subject) but I remember playing on very hard and tight metal rims in high school that produced lots of in & out shots.
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Post#8 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:35 pm

changed thread title.
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Post#9 » by DiscoLives4ever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:39 pm

There used to be claims that the Jazz would over-inflate the ball because their offense relied more on layups than jump-shots.
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Post#10 » by TKainZero » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:40 pm

Whichever rim Dwight howard is the closest too becomes the softest by 'Softmosis'
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Post#11 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:50 pm

DiscoLives4ever wrote:There used to be claims that the Jazz would over-inflate the ball because their offense relied more on layups than jump-shots.


makes sense... for example, if you were a team like the Grizzlies of the last few years, a great defensive team with not many outside shooters, why not try to make the rims as tight as you could get away with in order to make all the games ugly.

Somebody should do some analysis on those rims in GS.
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Post#12 » by RIP Kobe » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:53 pm

This is interesting but not sure how much truth there is to it. If it was, we would be hearing about it more from the players, who are actually playing the game, and not watching from the sidelines/tv.

You can really feel which rims are soft or tight if you go up for a dunk. Someone would have complained by now.
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Post#13 » by King of Canada » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:40 pm

I like my rims both soft AND tight

I call BS though.
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Post#14 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:46 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nbarims110608

Here's an article on the subject from back in 2008

“I think it’s hard for two rims to be alike everywhere,” said Utah Jazz point guard Deron Williams. “Some are dunked on more than others, some have more jump shots than others.

“They’re just like cars. All models don’t break down at the exact same time even though it’s the same parts in each car.”


Christopher Arena, the NBA’s vice president of apparel and sporting goods, said every rim is thoroughly tested and measured. A contractor named Drew Sorensen travels to all 30 NBA arenas in the preseason to set each rim. Sorensen uses something called the ERTG Rim Tester, which measures the “rim flex,” a computation based on energy absorption. A weight is dropped from each rim and a tiny microprocessor calculates the flex. The higher the rim-flex number, the softer the bounce, and the more likely your shot will roll in when maybe it shouldn’t have.

Each NBA team is required to buy new rims at the outset of every season – new backboards must be purchased every five seasons – and the league mandates a rim-flex reading of 20 to 35. Once Sorensen signs off on the measurements, he theoretically locks that number in place for the season by placing pieces of tape over the brackets that connect the rim to the backboard brace. Those pieces of tape each have a seal with holographic imagery. If a visiting team were to complain about the flex, the NBA can “go to the tape” to discover whether the rim has been illegally altered.

Sorensen returns to each arena once during the regular season, once during each playoff round and then resets the rims for every NBA Finals game.

Sounds fairly foolproof, but it doesn’t explain why our small sampling of NBA players believes rims feel different in different arenas.


Raja Bell, resident marksman of the Phoenix Suns, said today’s NBA rims are “the same (in) that they are the same dimensions. But act the same and give the same? No.”

“They’re supposed to be the same,” Jazz guard Kyle Korver added, “but they’re not.”


Rim-flex issues can occasionally, but rarely, work against the home team. Last January, Tracy McGrady of the Houston Rockets complained that the rims in his home arena, the Toyota Center, were too tight. McGrady shot 43 percent on the road but only 40 percent at home. His 3-point percentage was not great on the road (32.7 percent), but he was a much-worse 25.7 percent at home. Free throws? Also better on the road (71.4 percent) than at home (63.4 percent).
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Post#15 » by fatlever » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:51 pm

another more recent article from Feb of this year

http://www.inpredictable.com/2016/02/are-there-shooter-friendly-nba-arenas.html


Former NBA guard/forward (and current Phoenix Suns broadcaster) Eddie Johnson seems to think so.


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The @cavs have the best arena for shooters. Bouncy elevated floor, great lighting and soft rims. Works against them against @warriors @nba


The article is basically trying to determine if Cleveland does have soft rims or just EJ having confirmation bias.
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Post#16 » by Lionlifer » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:56 pm

Good stuff, I can't believe the margin they let in! 20-35 reading, that's over a 50% difference between min and max.

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