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Re: RE: Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#521 » by truth18 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:40 pm

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OK, fine. Its your board. Not intending to cause problems.


What problems? He's just telling you why you are wrong.


Just not wanting to aggravate. He told me to get out, so I am.


Get out of here with that **** is a colloquial phrase. He's not literally telling you to leave, just that you should think before you jump to conclusions.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#522 » by 76ers » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:48 pm

Lol, such a cowardice move by the organization and ownership. Not to let Hinkie at least finish what he started is a disgrace.

Nepotism at its finest hiring daddy's son to reap the benefits of Hinkie's asset accumulation. Bryan Colangelo has proved he's not a good GM in this league and I expect nothing more than to become mediocre again. The ultimate fear of myself and most Sixers fans who were supporting the process. The signing of middling free agents, ala the Jeff Teagues of the world will be signed and we will be back to fighting for the 7/8 seed.

It's a sad day to be a Sixers fan, and I have lost all faith in the organization.

I could write a whole damn essay on this but I don't have it in me. This is an empty feeling for me.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#523 » by BobThornton » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:53 pm

jcsunsfan wrote: He has an excellent eye for talent and treats players with ultimate respect. JC himself is a free agent draw.


Great eye for talent? He communicates with the team on a day to day basis via skype. He probably spends most of his time in his den watching "Murder She Wrote". He's 80 FFS.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#524 » by 76thBearCub » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:59 pm

The only thing keeping me sane is we won't have to wait long to see what the intentions are here. We should know by the end of this off season.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#525 » by Ericb5 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:03 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I'd be surprised if Bryan was the final answer. I feel like there will be a duel GM like they wanted, but with someone heading the analytical department. I can't see Harris just throwing that entire premise to the wind. It just wouldn't make sense.


This already doesn't make sense.

The whole idea of naming a replacement that is the son of JC within hours is like someone getting married the week after their wife dies.

It just stinks of lack of character, and JC is supposed to be so high on character. This is completely tone deaf.

On top of that, the whole idea of blessing the process and then bailing on it half way through, especially when during that time the value of your investment has probably tripled, is just stupid.

Forcing Hinkie out right as he is getting to the point where he was going to start cashing in his chips, is just devastating to me.

After years of mindless careerist wandering we FINALLY had a direction, and a plan, and then it is all thrown out the window to hire a near sighted failed GM, who's track record is doing the exact things that we were doing in the previous decade to no avail.

They have us by the short hairs because we love the Sixers, and are forced to root for them anyway.

If Embiid comes back healthy and is the player that virtually everyone thinks he is, then it will be all the more tragic that they bailed on the guy who made it happen. Let alone if we get Simmons, or are able to trade for a star using assets that Hinkie largely conjured out of thin air.

One thing is absolutely undeniable. Bryan Colangelo would not have put us in the position to draft Embiid, let alone have the balls to select him, nor would we have any chance at Simmons or Ingram this year. That is undeniable. If he was hired in 2013 we wouldn't be close to where we are right now.

How many rebuilds in 3 years realistically could produce players of the caliber that we have, or can get this year, especially considering how far in the hole we were to start? Fans from other teams reading this board don't seem to understand how bad of a situation we were in at that time. Only the Nets today are in a worse place than we were in then.


Any aging team that is starting the rebuild process today would KILL for our current position. We have great prospects, great draft picks, plenty of cap room, and a state of the art farm system based on analytics and sports science. Now we kick out the man who did it and replace him with a used car salesman.

I will still follow the Sixers and hope for the best with as much passion as I ever have. I already couldn't want a healthy Embiid or Simmons any more than I currently do, but this is a horrible kick in the balls for someone that was as passionate in 1990 as I am today. I have been through a LOT with this team, and we were finally getting somewhere, and now I am feeling totally betrayed.

The owners lost their nerve, and that was the one thing that could have screwed this up. They gave up on the cook, while the dinner was still in the oven. It may turn out great still, and I am certainly hoping that it does, but this is about the worst news that I could imagine in Sixer land other than Embiid breaking his foot and retiring, and us getting the 4th pick in the lottery.

Seeing as those things haven't happened yet, the future is still bright.







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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#526 » by WVU » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:08 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I'd be surprised if Bryan was the final answer. I feel like there will be a duel GM like they wanted, but with someone heading the analytical department. I can't see Harris just throwing that entire premise to the wind. It just wouldn't make sense.


This already doesn't make sense.

The whole idea of naming a replacement that is the son of JC within hours is like someone getting married the week after their wife dies.

It just stinks of lack of character, and JC is supposed to be so high on character. This is completely tone deaf.

On top of that, the whole idea of blessing the process and then bailing on it half way through, especially when during that time the value of your investment has probably tripled, is just stupid.

Forcing Hinkie out right as he is getting to the point where he was going to start cashing in his chips, is just devastating to me.

After years of mindless careerist wandering we FINALLY had a direction, and a plan, and then it is all thrown out the window to hire a near sighted failed GM, who's track record is doing the exact things that we were doing in the previous decade to no avail.

They have us by the short hairs because we love the Sixers, and are forced to root for them anyway.

If Embiid comes back healthy and is the player that virtually everyone thinks he is, then it will be all the more tragic that they bailed on the guy who made it happen. Let alone if we get Simmons, or are able to trade for a star using assets that Hinkie largely conjured out of thin air.

One thing is absolutely undeniable. Bryan Colangelo would not have put us in the position to draft Embiid, let alone have the balls to select him, nor would we have any chance at Simmons or Ingram this year. That is undeniable. If he was hired in 2013 we wouldn't be close to where we are right now.

How many rebuilds in 3 years realistically could produce players of the caliber that we have, or can get this year, especially considering how far in the hole we were to start? Fans from other teams reading this board don't seem to understand how bad of a situation we were in at that time. Only the Nets today are in a worse place than we were in then.


Any aging team that is starting the rebuild process today would KILL for our current position. We have great prospects, great draft picks, plenty of cap room, and a state of the art farm system based on analytics and sports science. Now we kick out the man who did it and replace him with a used car salesman.

I will still follow the Sixers and hope for the best with as much passion as I ever have. I already couldn't want a healthy Embiid or Simmons any more than I currently do, but this is a horrible kick in the balls for someone that was as passionate in 1990 as I am today. I have been through a LOT with this team, and we were finally getting somewhere, and now I am feeling totally betrayed.

The owners lost their nerve, and that was the one thing that could have screwed this up. They gave up on the cook, while the dinner was still in the oven. It may turn out great still, and I am certainly hoping that it does, but this is about the worst news that I could imagine in Sixer land other than Embiid breaking his foot and retiring, and us getting the 4th pick in the lottery.

Seeing as those things haven't happened yet, the future is still bright.


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This 100%. It hurts bad. Really bad. The feeling of betrayal is real here.

This was the summer that things would start to formulate and all of our asset accumulation could be utilized. Only to hand over the keys to a moron. HOW COULD THEY **** THIS UP SO BADLY
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#527 » by 76thBearCub » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:12 pm

I remember people on this board used to bring up Linkin Park, and cutting themselves.

Anybody want to join me?
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#528 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:20 pm

Here's an idea.....how bout you wait till the Colangelo's do something worthy of criticism before you criticize them?
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Post#529 » by XtremeDunkz » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:23 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:Here's an idea.....how bout you wait till the Colangelo's do something worthy of criticism before you criticize them?

It will come soon enough.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#530 » by tk76 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:23 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:Here's an idea.....how bout you wait till the Colangelo's do something worthy of criticism before you criticize them?


OK... Jerry Colangelo just hired his son as GM without doing even a cursory search. In what field of endeavor would it be considered a good move to hire the son of an advisor without doing a search? Or maybe you think GM choices are best made on hereditary grounds. Maybe Hinkie's biggest failing was that he did not hire his son as an executive?
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#531 » by TeamTragic » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:23 pm

ET Da Gawd wrote:
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ET Da Gawd wrote:Wow, this is the end of it all man. We're gonna be looking like Phoenix real quick, I'll stick around to watch the city burn but I'm out.

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Except Phoenix is one of the most winning franchises in NBA history. Nice try you Spurs clod :lol:

Yall aint won a chip since like the 70s though bro...lmao, good "wins"


Not every team had Stern creating double standards. Then there was your asterisk-based championship :lol:
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#532 » by Ericb5 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:30 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:Here's an idea.....how bout you wait till the Colangelo's do something worthy of criticism before you criticize them?


I am ONLY criticizing them on what they have done already.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#533 » by Ericb5 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:33 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
ET Da Gawd wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Except Phoenix is one of the most winning franchises in NBA history. Nice try you Spurs clod :lol:

Yall aint won a chip since like the 70s though bro...lmao, good "wins"


Not every team had Stern creating double standards. Then there was your asterisk-based championship :lol:

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You are putting forth an obviously false narrative.

Can you at least admit 2 things? 1- Horry moves was dirty. 2- Nash embellished after he was on the ground by flailing his arms. He didn't embellish the hit itself like you claimed.

" Had Nash not thrown himself into the side of the court..."

That's a complete reconstruction of reality and it's pathetic that you would feel the need to do that.


Also, if a player gets punched in the face for real and he acts more hurt than he really is, it's not a flop.

"a flop is an intentional fall by a player after little or no physical contact by an opposing player in order to draw a personal foul "

That was clearly not a flop. If you want to be a liar, good for you.


Okay, that's great and all, the foul was called, etc., but the reaction of the teammates who couldn't think about the consequences of their actions cost them...Basketball is also mental...sorry....


The fact that you are still complaining about this after multiple championships and signing LMA this past season tells me that you are just an ungrateful ****. Stop pretending the Spurs franchise wasn't getting preferential treatment.


Am I really reading an argument between a Suns fan and A Spurs fan on a Sixers board?

Do you guys knock on your neighbors door to see if you can come inside to argue with your own wife?
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Post#534 » by NJ SixerFan » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:34 pm

I'm completely against Hinkie resigning and couldn't be any angrier that his replacement is going to be BC. I trust Hinkie with this crucial offseason regarding the draft, free agency, and trades that will likely be made. Hinkie has shown the ability to come out ahead on trades. Had proven he won't sign middling free agents to big money just to fight for mediocrity. Also trust him to make the right picks with w.e picks the sixers actually end up with. Buddy heild incoming with the first overall pick with BC running the show.

Hope everyone for Hinkie being gone are ready for the jah for Schroeder trade. Also maxing out never accomplished anything in their careers middle of the pack veteran free agents to big long term money.

You know it's bad when you are a 10 win team on the season everyone knows you're bad and they come here to offer their condolences at the hiring of BC. Welcome to fighting for the 8th seed boys.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#535 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:34 pm

tk76 wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:Here's an idea.....how bout you wait till the Colangelo's do something worthy of criticism before you criticize them?


OK... Jerry Colangelo just hired his son as GM without doing even a cursory search. In what field of endeavor would it be considered a good move to hire the son of an advisor without doing a search? Or maybe you think GM choices are best made on hereditary grounds. Maybe Hinkie's biggest failing was that he did not hire his son as an executive?



I don't care if he hired his son, wife or dog...let's see what moves are made.....unlike the blind Hinkie cult, I won't support them unconditionally....I won't make excuses for them.....if I hate their moves, I will be calling for their heads as well
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#536 » by TeamTragic » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:34 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Am I really reading an argument between a Suns fan and A Spurs fan on a Sixers board?

Do you guys knock on your neighbors door to see if you can come inside to argue with your own wife?


Accidentally quoted a different thread. Sorry :lol:
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#537 » by BobThornton » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:35 pm

Josh PICKED the Hinkie plan. This was what he wanted to do.

I truly believed that Silver stepped in after the 0fer start and the Okafor fight and threatened to take the team away unless he gave control to someone like Colangelo. That Silver had the power to Sterling the Sixers. It really makes the most sense to me. Silver HATED the tank and made it clear he thought it was bad for the NBA.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#538 » by Negrodamus » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:40 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I'd be surprised if Bryan was the final answer. I feel like there will be a duel GM like they wanted, but with someone heading the analytical department. I can't see Harris just throwing that entire premise to the wind. It just wouldn't make sense.


This already doesn't make sense.

The whole idea of naming a replacement that is the son of JC within hours is like someone getting married the week after their wife dies.

It just stinks of lack of character, and JC is supposed to be so high on character. This is completely tone deaf.

On top of that, the whole idea of blessing the process and then bailing on it half way through, especially when during that time the value of your investment has probably tripled, is just stupid.

Forcing Hinkie out right as he is getting to the point where he was going to start cashing in his chips, is just devastating to me.

After years of mindless careerist wandering we FINALLY had a direction, and a plan, and then it is all thrown out the window to hire a near sighted failed GM, who's track record is doing the exact things that we were doing in the previous decade to no avail.

They have us by the short hairs because we love the Sixers, and are forced to root for them anyway.

If Embiid comes back healthy and is the player that virtually everyone thinks he is, then it will be all the more tragic that they bailed on the guy who made it happen. Let alone if we get Simmons, or are able to trade for a star using assets that Hinkie largely conjured out of thin air.

One thing is absolutely undeniable. Bryan Colangelo would not have put us in the position to draft Embiid, let alone have the balls to select him, nor would we have any chance at Simmons or Ingram this year. That is undeniable. If he was hired in 2013 we wouldn't be close to where we are right now.

How many rebuilds in 3 years realistically could produce players of the caliber that we have, or can get this year, especially considering how far in the hole we were to start? Fans from other teams reading this board don't seem to understand how bad of a situation we were in at that time. Only the Nets today are in a worse place than we were in then.


Any aging team that is starting the rebuild process today would KILL for our current position. We have great prospects, great draft picks, plenty of cap room, and a state of the art farm system based on analytics and sports science. Now we kick out the man who did it and replace him with a used car salesman.

I will still follow the Sixers and hope for the best with as much passion as I ever have. I already couldn't want a healthy Embiid or Simmons any more than I currently do, but this is a horrible kick in the balls for someone that was as passionate in 1990 as I am today. I have been through a LOT with this team, and we were finally getting somewhere, and now I am feeling totally betrayed.

The owners lost their nerve, and that was the one thing that could have screwed this up. They gave up on the cook, while the dinner was still in the oven. It may turn out great still, and I am certainly hoping that it does, but this is about the worst news that I could imagine in Sixer land other than Embiid breaking his foot and retiring, and us getting the 4th pick in the lottery.

Seeing as those things haven't happened yet, the future is still bright.







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I think one thing to remember here is that Hinkie resigned, not fired. If you read between the lines, he was going to be marginalized for sure. But he could have stayed and seen this through if he wanted. I certainly don't blame him for quitting, but the FO and ownership certainly didn't expect this. So they are now with a massive vacuum at the analytics portion of the organization and it needs to be filled or they need to fall back in line with other traditional means of choosing talent.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#539 » by steveb21 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:48 pm

Lots of hate going on in here. To me it looks like BC was coming here regardless to work with Hinkie but Hinkie didn't want to share power and jumped ship. It's a shame because a team of Hinke, BC & JC would've been interesting to watch. (You have the old man with the connections, BC to handle the media & agents and Hinkie to do his thing).

Anyway, with the team knocking on the door of WOAT you have to expect some changes.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#540 » by sam-hinkie » Thu Apr 7, 2016 7:51 pm

Gotta give realgm a break no more lurking till the lottery have to cool down sigh there's a meme with wolverine with a bulls cap holding a picture with thibs would be dope if someone made a sixers version with hinkie in the picture


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