Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein

[Embiid P]

So does anyone know when the press conference will be held introducing BC to the media? I'm just curious as to what he has to say about the current assets/pieces on the team and whether or not he gives off the vibe that he'll keep them or trade them off.

[Ericb5]

I'd be surprised if Bryan was the final answer. I feel like there will be a duel GM like they wanted, but with someone heading the analytical department. I can't see Harris just throwing that entire premise to the wind. It just wouldn't make sense.

This already doesn't make sense.

The whole idea of naming a replacement that is the son of JC within hours is like someone getting married the week after their wife dies.

It just stinks of lack of character, and JC is supposed to be so high on character. This is completely tone deaf.

On top of that, the whole idea of blessing the process and then bailing on it half way through, especially when during that time the value of your investment has probably tripled, is just stupid.

Forcing Hinkie out right as he is getting to the point where he was going to start cashing in his chips, is just devastating to me.

After years of mindless careerist wandering we FINALLY had a direction, and a plan, and then it is all thrown out the window to hire a near sighted failed GM, who's track record is doing the exact things that we were doing in the previous decade to no avail.

They have us by the short hairs because we love the Sixers, and are forced to root for them anyway.

If Embiid comes back healthy and is the player that virtually everyone thinks he is, then it will be all the more tragic that they bailed on the guy who made it happen. Let alone if we get Simmons, or are able to trade for a star using assets that Hinkie largely conjured out of thin air.

One thing is absolutely undeniable. Bryan Colangelo would not have put us in the position to draft Embiid, let alone have the balls to select him, nor would we have any chance at Simmons or Ingram this year. That is undeniable. If he was hired in 2013 we wouldn't be close to where we are right now.

How many rebuilds in 3 years realistically could produce players of the caliber that we have, or can get this year, especially considering how far in the hole we were to start? Fans from other teams reading this board don't seem to understand how bad of a situation we were in at that time. Only the Nets today are in a worse place than we were in then.


Any aging team that is starting the rebuild process today would KILL for our current position. We have great prospects, great draft picks, plenty of cap room, and a state of the art farm system based on analytics and sports science. Now we kick out the man who did it and replace him with a used car salesman.

I will still follow the Sixers and hope for the best with as much passion as I ever have. I already couldn't want a healthy Embiid or Simmons any more than I currently do, but this is a horrible kick in the balls for someone that was as passionate in 1990 as I am today. I have been through a LOT with this team, and we were finally getting somewhere, and now I am feeling totally betrayed.

The owners lost their nerve, and that was the one thing that could have screwed this up. They gave up on the cook, while the dinner was still in the oven. It may turn out great still, and I am certainly hoping that it does, but this is about the worst news that I could imagine in Sixer land other than Embiid breaking his foot and retiring, and us getting the 4th pick in the lottery.

Seeing as those things haven't happened yet, the future is still bright.







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I think one thing to remember here is that Hinkie resigned, not fired. If you read between the lines, he was going to be marginalized for sure. But he could have stayed and seen this through if he wanted. I certainly don't blame him for quitting, but the FO and ownership certainly didn't expect this. So they are now with a massive vacuum at the analytics portion of the organization and it needs to be filled or they need to fall back in line with other traditional means of choosing talent.

He resigned yes, but he was going to no longer be the GM, and that means that he was essentially fired.

[kriss73]

Did you read this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-76ers-unraveled-sam-hinkie-193118470.html

I'm done with this ownership.

[Ericb5]

So does anyone know when the press conference will be held introducing BC to the media? I'm just curious as to what he has to say about the current assets/pieces on the team and whether or not he gives off the vibe that he'll keep them or trade them.

I think it is going to be on Monday.

You know what he is going to say though. He will say that he will need to go through an evaluation process and figure out what they are going to do, etc...

It isn't like he is going to say what he really thinks.

[76ers]

I hope some beats garner the stones to ask the tough questions. I doubt it though.

[spikeslovechild]

Lots of hate going on in here. To me it looks like BC was coming here regardless to work with Hinkie but Hinkie didn't want to share power and jumped ship. It's a shame because a team of Hinke, BC & JC would've been interesting to watch. (You have the old man with the connections, BC to handle the media & agents and Hinkie to do his thing).

Anyway, with the team knocking on the door of WOAT you have to expect some changes.

Why? I mean the Astros had some of worst records of all time. The cubs as well. 10, 15, 20, 30 wins these are meaningless numbers.

So if Hinkie signed a bunch of mid-level veterans instead of doing the Sac trade and finished with lets say 25 wins. Maybe he goes out and trades one of his firsts for Jeff Teague to get to 30. I mean so what? What does that accomplish? The Sixers still aren't going to the playoffs or winning a championship and you've sacrificed the assets of SAC and eaten into future cap space.

[Mahorn at the 4]

The narrow-mindedness in re to this team and Hinkie from media and other fan bases is comical. His plan was just about to bloom.

Kudos to Jerry- he got his boy a very nice, shiny new toy.

[spikeslovechild]

Did you read this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-76ers-unraveled-sam-hinkie-193118470.html

I'm done with this ownership.

This article is a joke.

Bryan didn't want a job from his daddy because of optics but couldn't get a job without him because he's terrible and everyone knows it.

So I'm supposed to feel better about this hire why?

[kriss73]

Did you read this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-76ers-unraveled-sam-hinkie-193118470.html

I'm done with this ownership.

This article is a joke.

Bryan didn't want a job from his daddy because of optics but couldn't get a job without him because he's terrible and everyone knows it.

So I'm supposed to feel better about this hire why?

What an horrible end.
My only hope is that the Colangelos could replicate their job in Phoenix.
But it doesn't sound good.

[steveb21]

Lots of hate going on in here. To me it looks like BC was coming here regardless to work with Hinkie but Hinkie didn't want to share power and jumped ship. It's a shame because a team of Hinke, BC & JC would've been interesting to watch. (You have the old man with the connections, BC to handle the media & agents and Hinkie to do his thing).

Anyway, with the team knocking on the door of WOAT you have to expect some changes.

Why? I mean the Astros had some of worst records of all time. The cubs as well. 10, 15, 20, 30 wins these are meaningless numbers.

So if Hinkie signed a bunch of mid-level veterans instead of doing the Sac trade and finished with lets say 25 wins. Maybe he goes out and trades one of his firsts for Jeff Teague to get to 30. I mean so what? What does that accomplish? The Sixers still aren't going to the playoffs or winning a championship and you've sacrificed the assets of SAC and eaten into future cap space.

Why? Seriously, you have to ask why? Off the top of my head you have season ticker holders who pay money to see this slop. You have advertisers who don't want to put their name on a piss poor product. And you have the league office and other owners who think fielding a D-league team in order to improve draft position is bad for the game. I'm sure there's other reasons but that's what I got on short notice...

[Sixersftw]

What an horrible end.
My only hope is that the Colangelos could replicate their job in Phoenix.
But it doesn't sound good.

You mean winning nothing and playing 0 defense? We already got that covered.

[76thBearCub]

Lots of hate going on in here. To me it looks like BC was coming here regardless to work with Hinkie but Hinkie didn't want to share power and jumped ship. It's a shame because a team of Hinke, BC & JC would've been interesting to watch. (You have the old man with the connections, BC to handle the media & agents and Hinkie to do his thing).

Anyway, with the team knocking on the door of WOAT you have to expect some changes.

Why? I mean the Astros had some of worst records of all time. The cubs as well. 10, 15, 20, 30 wins these are meaningless numbers.

So if Hinkie signed a bunch of mid-level veterans instead of doing the Sac trade and finished with lets say 25 wins. Maybe he goes out and trades one of his firsts for Jeff Teague to get to 30. I mean so what? What does that accomplish? The Sixers still aren't going to the playoffs or winning a championship and you've sacrificed the assets of SAC and eaten into future cap space.

Why? Seriously, you have to ask why? Off the top of my head you have season ticker holders who pay money to see this slop. You have advertisers who don't want to put their name on a piss poor product. And you have the league office and other owners who think fielding a D-league team in order to improve draft position is bad for the game. I'm sure there's other reasons but that's what I got on short notice...

Perfect examples of only looking at today.

[kriss73]

What an horrible end.
My only hope is that the Colangelos could replicate their job in Phoenix.
But it doesn't sound good.

You mean winning nothing and playing 0 defense? We already got that covered.

This is why it doesn't sound good

[bryanwithawhy]

Did you read this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-76ers-unraveled-sam-hinkie-193118470.html

I'm done with this ownership.

This article is a joke.

Bryan didn't want a job from his daddy because of optics but couldn't get a job without him because he's terrible and everyone knows it.

So I'm supposed to feel better about this hire why?

My favorite part is that he didn't want to go to Philadelphia where they were loaded with talent and picks. He wanted to go to the Nets where he could prove himself. That was the **** article i have ever read. That was the best Jerry could do?

[LongLiveHinkie]

Jerry Colangelo is a back-stabbing slimeball. I will never root for or support this organization as long as he and this ownership are in town. I hope they fail and feel nothing but pain and misery.

[kriss73]

The Bynum flop, 3 years of hell and now this mess.
Please Dr.J, buy this franchise.

[Crooked-I]

What an horrible end.
My only hope is that the Colangelos could replicate their job in Phoenix.
But it doesn't sound good.

You mean winning nothing and playing 0 defense? We already got that covered.

This is why it doesn't sound good

Phoenix was a legit contender for a while. You'd be lucky if Sixers sniff that with or without Hinkie.

[Embiid P]

Lots of hate going on in here. To me it looks like BC was coming here regardless to work with Hinkie but Hinkie didn't want to share power and jumped ship. It's a shame because a team of Hinke, BC & JC would've been interesting to watch. (You have the old man with the connections, BC to handle the media & agents and Hinkie to do his thing).

Anyway, with the team knocking on the door of WOAT you have to expect some changes.

Why? I mean the Astros had some of worst records of all time. The cubs as well. 10, 15, 20, 30 wins these are meaningless numbers.

So if Hinkie signed a bunch of mid-level veterans instead of doing the Sac trade and finished with lets say 25 wins. Maybe he goes out and trades one of his firsts for Jeff Teague to get to 30. I mean so what? What does that accomplish? The Sixers still aren't going to the playoffs or winning a championship and you've sacrificed the assets of SAC and eaten into future cap space.

Why? Seriously, you have to ask why? Off the top of my head you have season ticker holders who pay money to see this slop. You have advertisers who don't want to put their name on a piss poor product. And you have the league office and other owners who think fielding a D-league team in order to improve draft position is bad for the game. I'm sure there's other reasons but that's what I got on short notice...

In that case, maybe it's time for the league to take a long, hard look at its current CBA and how it forces most teams to net superstars through the draft which incentivizes teams to tank to become legit contenders. Yes, Hinkie tanked more blatantly and extremely than any other GM in NBA history, but he was only doing it because the league allowed him to do so. That is until now of course.

The point is, although the NBA has made Hinkie the poster child for how tanking is so wrong and bad for the game and yada yada yada, they fail to realize that they are not without blame for causing Hinkie and countless other GMs before him to do what they had to do to field a perennial championship contender.

[kriss73]

You mean winning nothing and playing 0 defense? We already got that covered.

This is why it doesn't sound good

Phoenix was a legit contender for a while. You'd be lucky if Sixers sniff that with or without Hinkie.

Yes but do you think that the same people (Jerry,Bryan and d'Antoni) could realize the same goal 15 years later?
How many odds?
Nash has retired, maybe Stat is on the market...

[steveb21]

Why? I mean the Astros had some of worst records of all time. The cubs as well. 10, 15, 20, 30 wins these are meaningless numbers.

So if Hinkie signed a bunch of mid-level veterans instead of doing the Sac trade and finished with lets say 25 wins. Maybe he goes out and trades one of his firsts for Jeff Teague to get to 30. I mean so what? What does that accomplish? The Sixers still aren't going to the playoffs or winning a championship and you've sacrificed the assets of SAC and eaten into future cap space.

Why? Seriously, you have to ask why? Off the top of my head you have season ticker holders who pay money to see this slop. You have advertisers who don't want to put their name on a piss poor product. And you have the league office and other owners who think fielding a D-league team in order to improve draft position is bad for the game. I'm sure there's other reasons but that's what I got on short notice...

In that case, maybe it's time for the league to take a long, hard look at its current CBA and how it forces most teams to net superstars through the draft which incentivizes teams to tank to become legit contenders. Yes, Hinkie tanked more blatantly and extremely than any other GM in NBA history, but he was only doing it because the league allowed him to do so. That is until now of course.

The point is, although the NBA has made Hinkie the poster child for how tanking is so wrong and bad for the game and yada yada yada, but they fail to realize that they are not without blame for causing Hinkie and countless other GMs before him to do what they had to do to field a perennial championship contender.

Lol, didn't they take a look at reforming the draft lottery?