Suns @ Rockets

[jcsunsfan]

what happens if we end up tied with BKN?

They win Pick 1

SUNS luck takes over. Brooklyn get the #1 pick because McD just had to beat Houston for no logical reason

If BKN gets the #1 pick, there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD of knowing whether this win impacted it or not. There are hundreds of number combinations to choose from . There is no way to know whether the combo choses is an extra from this or not.

AND, you can bet that McD did not want to beat Houston at all. It was the players that beat Houston. McD wants the ping pong balls.

[SSOL]

They win Pick 1

SUNS luck takes over. Brooklyn get the #1 pick because McD just had to beat Houston for no logical reason

If BKN gets the #1 pick, there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD of knowing whether this win impacted it or not. There are hundreds of number combinations to choose from . There is no way to know whether the combo choses is an extra from this or not.

AND, you can bet that McD did not want to beat Houston at all. It was the players that beat Houston. McD wants the ping pong balls.

Not true. The number combinations would have been assigned to Phoenix.

[letsgosuns]

The Rockets lost this game more than the Suns won. The Suns did not even play that well. The Rockets were just awful down the stretch. They were terrible last night too against the Mavericks. I just hope this win does not screw the Suns with their draft position. That pick could decide the next decade of what happens to the franchise.

[bwgood77]

They win Pick 1

SUNS luck takes over. Brooklyn get the #1 pick because McD just had to beat Houston for no logical reason

If BKN gets the #1 pick, there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD of knowing whether this win impacted it or not. There are hundreds of number combinations to choose from . There is no way to know whether the combo choses is an extra from this or not.

AND, you can bet that McD did not want to beat Houston at all. It was the players that beat Houston. McD wants the ping pong balls.

If we stay tied, yes, since they were randomly split you never know. If we fall one below them in pecking order it's obviously more clear cut, but it still comes down to pure luck. That's what makes it kind of funny. If we fall back of Brooklyn, and they get the #1 pick and we drop to 5-6, people will go crazy, but if we fall back of Brooklyn and we win the lottery and they get the 4th-6th pick, people will be ecstatic and there is no blame. So much of fan support depends on situations that could always go either way, whether a last second shot in a deciding championship game going in and out for a loss meaning a coach can't win a championship to the luck of the lottery being what decides how good a front office is.

[bwgood77]

The Rockets lost this game more than the Suns won. The Suns did not even play that well. The Rockets were just awful down the stretch. They were terrible last night too against the Mavericks. I just hope this win does not screw the Suns with their draft position. That pick could decide the next decade of what happens to the franchise.

You really think there is a player in this draft that can define a decade? I don't think there is an Anthony Davis or Towns in this one, but even with AD it appears one guy can only do so much. It's too bad that we can't have a guy like that in this draft to play with Booker.

Ingram theoretically could be a Durant type, so he is the best bet. Simmons...can he be like LeBron? Lets hope so if we get him. Those two guys are a cut above, but you never know how these guys will pan out....and especially the next tier.

But obviously I want a top two pick.

[bwgood77]

SUNS luck takes over. Brooklyn get the #1 pick because McD just had to beat Houston for no logical reason

If BKN gets the #1 pick, there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD of knowing whether this win impacted it or not. There are hundreds of number combinations to choose from . There is no way to know whether the combo choses is an extra from this or not.

AND, you can bet that McD did not want to beat Houston at all. It was the players that beat Houston. McD wants the ping pong balls.

Not true. The number combinations would have been assigned to Phoenix.

I believe your answer refers to if we finish 4th and not tied, splitting combinations which is what I believe his answer is referring to...a tie and combination split.

[letsgosuns]

The Rockets lost this game more than the Suns won. The Suns did not even play that well. The Rockets were just awful down the stretch. They were terrible last night too against the Mavericks. I just hope this win does not screw the Suns with their draft position. That pick could decide the next decade of what happens to the franchise.

You really think there is a player in this draft that can define a decade? I don't think there is an Anthony Davis or Towns in this one, but even with AD it appears one guy can only do so much. It's too bad that we can't have a guy like that in this draft to play with Booker.

Ingram theoretically could be a Durant type, so he is the best bet. Simmons...can he be like LeBron? Lets hope so if we get him. Those two guys are a cut above, but you never know how these guys will pan out....and especially the next tier.

But obviously I want a top two pick.

I am thinking more about trading the pick for a superstar. A top three pick is what a team wants. Anything lower than that makes it tougher to get a top player in trade.

[rsavaj]

well that was unfortunate

[starbosa10]

i think it's 9 out of the last 12/13 years a team who entered the lottery #4 or later (later as in 5,6,7, etc) has won it. it's all random

[bwgood77]

The Rockets lost this game more than the Suns won. The Suns did not even play that well. The Rockets were just awful down the stretch. They were terrible last night too against the Mavericks. I just hope this win does not screw the Suns with their draft position. That pick could decide the next decade of what happens to the franchise.

You really think there is a player in this draft that can define a decade? I don't think there is an Anthony Davis or Towns in this one, but even with AD it appears one guy can only do so much. It's too bad that we can't have a guy like that in this draft to play with Booker.

Ingram theoretically could be a Durant type, so he is the best bet. Simmons...can he be like LeBron? Lets hope so if we get him. Those two guys are a cut above, but you never know how these guys will pan out....and especially the next tier.

But obviously I want a top two pick.

I am thinking more about trading the pick for a superstar. A top three pick is what a team wants. Anything lower than that makes it tougher to get a top player in trade.

Oh yeah, that's right. I keep forgetting superstars are available for a high pick.

[Jdiddy701]

Usually I'm one to root for the Suns to lose but I hate the Rockets. I'm happy we won. Oh well


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[bhawk]

This was Earl Watson and PJ and the rest of the Suns giving Sarver and McD the middle finger. Why the hell would they break the Villanova coach news before the season ends? It defies logic.

[bwgood77]

This was Earl Watson and PJ and the rest of the Suns giving Sarver and McD the middle finger. Why the hell would they break the Villanova coach news before the season ends? It defies logic.

The Suns are not breaking any news about that. Or at least I certainly hope not. But it's almost certainly based on rumors or perhaps nothing at all.

[letsgosuns]

You really think there is a player in this draft that can define a decade? I don't think there is an Anthony Davis or Towns in this one, but even with AD it appears one guy can only do so much. It's too bad that we can't have a guy like that in this draft to play with Booker.

Ingram theoretically could be a Durant type, so he is the best bet. Simmons...can he be like LeBron? Lets hope so if we get him. Those two guys are a cut above, but you never know how these guys will pan out....and especially the next tier.

But obviously I want a top two pick.

I am thinking more about trading the pick for a superstar. A top three pick is what a team wants. Anything lower than that makes it tougher to get a top player in trade.

Oh yeah, that's right. I keep forgetting superstars are available for a high pick.

Idk if you are being serious or sarcastic. When you factor in the Suns own pick and all the other picks they own, they can make great offers for just about any player out there. I expect the pick to be available for the right player.

[bondom34]

I know you guys wanted to tank, but screw the Rockets.

[TeamTragic]

I know you guys wanted to tank, but screw the Rockets.

Why so much hate for the Rockets?

[bondom34]

I know you guys wanted to tank, but screw the Rockets.

Why so much hate for the Rockets?

A few reasons:
1. Having to deal with "Harden trade herp derp" constantly. Love seeing them fail for that.

2. Screw Bev, he's dirty and cost OKC a title.

3. They're just not an easy bunch to root for.

4. Having Harden fans on the PC board tell everyone how great he was last season makes this better.

I could add more but that covers the main points.

[bwgood77]

I am thinking more about trading the pick for a superstar. A top three pick is what a team wants. Anything lower than that makes it tougher to get a top player in trade.

Oh yeah, that's right. I keep forgetting superstars are available for a high pick.

Idk if you are being serious or sarcastic. When you factor in the Suns own pick and all the other picks they own, they can make great offers for just about any player out there. I expect the pick to be available for the right player.

I am not sure who you consider superstars but the ones I can think of are unlikely on the table. The only semi one that might be is Love and Cleveland doesn't want picks, they need players to play with LeBron now. So I am being sarcastic, because you keep saying we will trade for a superstar but there are only a handful of them and teams with them won't trade them for unknowns unless they have to. Blake Griffin is the one other guy, but he is a free agent soon, so that would be a risk. In my estimation, he would be the ONLY possibility, but we could probably only do it later with a guy like Telly signed, but we still don't really have enough unless they want a guy like Knight, and Paul's time is running short, so he probably wouldn't be happy with picks either.

I don't think people competing blow it up. Chicago doesn't look like they make the playoffs, so there is Butler people have mentioned, but he is more of a young cornerstone to build around, and they would get rid of vets to competing teams more than trade a key guy who could be with them for 10 years rather than trade him for picks...they already have him, Portis, McDermott and others, including their own lottery pick this year. And is he a superstar anyway?

[letsgosuns]

Oh yeah, that's right. I keep forgetting superstars are available for a high pick.

Idk if you are being serious or sarcastic. When you factor in the Suns own pick and all the other picks they own, they can make great offers for just about any player out there. I expect the pick to be available for the right player.

I am not sure who you consider superstars but the ones I can think of are unlikely on the table. The only semi one that might be is Love and Cleveland doesn't want picks, they need players to play with LeBron now. So I am being sarcastic, because you keep saying we will trade for a superstar but there are only a handful of them and teams with them won't trade them for unknowns unless they have to. Blake Griffin is the one other guy, but he is a free agent soon, so that would be a risk. In my estimation, he would be the ONLY possibility, but we could probably only do it later with a guy like Telly signed, but we still don't really have enough unless they want a guy like Knight, and Paul's time is running short, so he probably wouldn't be happy with picks either.

I don't think people competing blow it up. Chicago doesn't look like they make the playoffs, so there is Butler people have mentioned, but he is more of a young cornerstone to build around, and they would get rid of vets to competing teams more than trade a key guy who could be with them for 10 years rather than trade him for picks...they already have him, Portis, McDermott and others, including their own lottery pick this year. And is he a superstar anyway?

I am looking at Paul George specifically. If the Suns offered their own pick and the Cleveland pick and a couple of players besides Booker, it would be hard for Indiana to turn that down. Their team is not that good. Idk of any big time players signing with the Pacers. They have to be realistic. If they can get a top quality package for George that overall improves their team, then they seriously think about it. And you never get back stars when you trade a superstar. It is usually always a package of young players and picks and more than likely those players never turn out to be much of anything.

I also would absolutely trade for Griffin if it is not a top two pick but I highly doubt the Clippers would do it. And I would trade for James Harden in a heartbeat. People can say whatever they want about this defense but that Rockets team is a mess and I think combining him and Booker would be amazing.

The biggest thing is that the Suns have been irrelevant for quite a while. It is not good. They need to do something big that will attract free agents and improve their talent immediately.

[TeamTragic]

Idk if you are being serious or sarcastic. When you factor in the Suns own pick and all the other picks they own, they can make great offers for just about any player out there. I expect the pick to be available for the right player.

I am not sure who you consider superstars but the ones I can think of are unlikely on the table. The only semi one that might be is Love and Cleveland doesn't want picks, they need players to play with LeBron now. So I am being sarcastic, because you keep saying we will trade for a superstar but there are only a handful of them and teams with them won't trade them for unknowns unless they have to. Blake Griffin is the one other guy, but he is a free agent soon, so that would be a risk. In my estimation, he would be the ONLY possibility, but we could probably only do it later with a guy like Telly signed, but we still don't really have enough unless they want a guy like Knight, and Paul's time is running short, so he probably wouldn't be happy with picks either.

I don't think people competing blow it up. Chicago doesn't look like they make the playoffs, so there is Butler people have mentioned, but he is more of a young cornerstone to build around, and they would get rid of vets to competing teams more than trade a key guy who could be with them for 10 years rather than trade him for picks...they already have him, Portis, McDermott and others, including their own lottery pick this year. And is he a superstar anyway?

I am looking at Paul George specifically. If the Suns offered their own pick and the Cleveland pick and a couple of players besides Booker, it would be hard for Indiana to turn that down. Their team is not that good. Idk of any big time players signing with the Pacers. They have to be realistic. If they can get a top quality package for George that overall improves their team, then they seriously think about it. And you never get back stars when you trade a superstar. It is usually always a package of young players and picks and more than likely those players never turn out to be much of anything.

I also would absolutely trade for Griffin if it is not a top two pick but I highly doubt the Clippers would do it. And I would trade for James Harden in a heartbeat. People can say whatever they want about this defense but that Rockets team is a mess and I think combining him and Booker would be amazing.

The biggest thing is that the Suns have been irrelevant for quite a while. It is not good. They need to do something big that will attract free agents and improve their talent immediately.

Let's not confuse Larry Bird with Billy King